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So as some of you know, I started working out hardcore a while ago.
But I've hit a psychological barrier, and that is, I can't resist the pain you get when trying to achieve muscle failure.
My suggested workout routine tells me to get to this point for virtually all of the workouts I'm doing. I was also told that the only way to grow for real is to stfu and fail.
I have no problem reaching muscle failure by doing exercises such as curls and bench press. But when I get to the leg curls and back exercises I just can't do it; IT'S TOO MUCH PAIN! My legs can easily lift the weighs with no problem, but the pain keeps me from going.
I just want some advice on how to handle those moments of insanity, should I yell and scream or bite something or have someone slap me in the face?
Thank you ^^
 
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Is it muscle pain or joint pain?
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muscle.
i usually do my workouts with as much correct form as possible to avoid these even more painful/annoying problems.
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It's possible to hurt yourself by repeatedly working to failure if you aren't very careful.
It is for this reason that I take a "don't work to failure over multiple sets, but work more often" approach.
If you are actually having to fight through extreme physical pain that does not sound healthy to me. I would back off. Overtraining will only set you back.
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Wait... you say you can easily lift the weight, but pain stops you from doing it? This sounds like a problem. I would talk to a health specialist about it.
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yeah, but that happens only when I'm about to finish the set.
It's more like I CAN lift the weight (not necessarily easily) but I have this intense burning going on.
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Doesn't sound healthy to me. The exhaustion associated with going until muscle failure keeps a lot of people away from the gym, but pain shouldn't be the issue.
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So it's not a matter of having to fight to finish, it's a matter of overcoming physical pain connected to the lifting?
Do you have pain when you aren't lifting?
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that burning, especially when doing calves or abs is super standard. That's why people say "feel the burn!" and "no pain no gain"
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stop being a pussy thats all i gotta say, and leg curls lol... you dont know pain until you do squats 
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If it hurts its doing its job. When i work out and am at the last set or last couple of reps i become like a steam engine i hiss really loudly which vents out the air that i let out. Everybody is different, some of my friends ( retarted i know) yell IM FUCKING HUGEEEE and that gives them motivation or some weird shit.
Point is, i know what u mean, your body gets all hot and you feel like you cant lift the weight. But at that time, dont give up because if you keep going thats when you will get truly huge. Say something like
PLAGUEE PLAGUEE or EEE HAN TIMING
my 2 cents.
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Well maybe I am lucky, I feel burn yeah but I definitely don't feel extreme pain, even if I go to failure.
If it is the "burning" that OP is experiencing, my advice would be to focus harder on accomplishing what you set out to do. Clear your mind of everything else, how you feel shouldn't be an issue.
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yeah.
and no i dont have pain when im not lifting, except for the soreness you get the next day, which is pretty weird also because no matter how hard I lift, I will get barely sore upper body, not much really, whereas i will get very sore @ my lower body after a regular leg work out.
the pain is more an intense burn than a specific pain somewhere, and it get so hot sometimes I hold back.
edit: i just saw the recent posts:
yes! it's a burn (i suck at working out lol)
lmao @ PLAGUUUUUUUUUUUU
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On August 18 2009 11:09 SanguineToss wrote:
Everybody is different, some of my friends ( retarted i know) yell IM FUCKING HUGEEEE and that gives them motivation or some weird shit.
ill pay you if you tape this
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yeah just stop focusing on the burn and start focusing on accomplishing each rep
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I get the same Raptor. It feels like a hot gas or acid in your calves. I stop just like you but I consider that working to failure 
biceps / chest is a different kind of muscle so you won't feel a burn when working these which is why you can go to failure more easily
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Ah, it's just a motivational problem then. There's no magic cure to solving that, working out is and will always be a major pain in the ass I'm afraid. 
There are a couple things you can try out though. For me, I've found that the quality of my workouts increase dramatically if there's someone there that pushes me to my limits. If you play sports competitively, get your coach to be the ass pushing you to the max or alternatively find a friend to go to the gym with and push each other.
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On August 18 2009 11:16 food wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2009 11:09 SanguineToss wrote:
Everybody is different, some of my friends ( retarted i know) yell IM FUCKING HUGEEEE and that gives them motivation or some weird shit.
ill pay you if you tape this
Hahahaha they'd beat the shit outta me.....but how much are we talking here^^
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maybe try something else to reach failure
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Overdose on Advil or Tylenol and go do some reps. Make sure you get a spotter though, so you don't fall asleep and get crushed.
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did you do proper breathing technique?
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oh shi-
i pay no attention to my breathing at all o,o that bad?
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On August 18 2009 11:39 EsX_Raptor wrote:
oh shi-
i pay no attention to my breathing at all o,o that bad?
As long as you remember to breathe consistently and regularly, you should be fine. Yeah its kind of important to get oxygen to your muscles It would probably ease the burn a bit too.
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exhale during contraction
inhale during relaxation
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i dont think you should go till failure every time but when you do you should have a spotter obviously. i think having a spotter (if u dont already) will help motivate u to go till complete failure
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If your goal is performance you should pretty much never go to failure. CNS recovery is your main worry, and to get the most amount of quality work in you don't want to go to failure.
If you're in it for aesthetics I think a combination of failure and non-failure work is fine. Like travis said you still want to maximize volume of work (because you need enough at heavy enough weight to create microtears in your muscles for your body to heal and get bigger), but you also need to go to failure to stimulate all fibers.
I am a fan of lifting VERY heavy though to hit the most musculature with most/all of the recruitable fibers in the muscles; thus, 1-5 RM for heavy compounds... then finish off with isolation work in 5-12 rep range if aesthetics is the goal.
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You need to make a distinction between "good" muscle pain and "bad" muscle pain. You don't have to work until muscle failure, but you need to full exhaust the muscle to cause tears so it can strengthen.
You could try shorter amount of reps and higher sets with more weight.
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Calves go for it (unless it's that like that sharp shooting pain you get sometimes). Back I would be careful, and I don't see the point of maxing out your back.
And you don't need spotters for curls/back extensions, you just drop the weight.
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Sounds like muscles on the verge of cramping.
^Yeah, it depends on where the pain is but if it's something important like back I wouldn't push it.
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