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intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-17 07:08:54
August 17 2009 06:57 GMT
#1
hey guys! i'm sorry if i sound really stupid here but i am terribly computer illiterate and i need help.

so recently i've been really getting into music production but my computer blows. i'm looking for a desktop that has as much ram as possible and dual core+ for around 500 dollars. the stuff i'm doing requires lots and lots of tracks and programs and processing stuffs and shit to be running at the same time, and i'd like to also plug in a midi keyboard and some recording gear. basically, fastest computer possible for lowest price? i'm sorry i can't really be more specific.

i've asked some producer friends to help and browsed some sites like slickdeals but i have no idea what i'm looking at =\ mayday!!

thanks in advance

edit: i am somewhat on a time limit too, so something preassembled would be the best. i'm fine with maybe sticking together really obvious and basic things, but the simpler the better please!

*****
Moderatorsloppy little slug
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-17 07:18:53
August 17 2009 07:01 GMT
#2
Okay, heres what i whipped up in 15 minutes. Obligatory E8400, 4 gigs of RAM, etc. Also a 1tb hard drive. The sound card is 7.1 channels so it should easily support a keyboard. Its $580.08.
There are great instructions on putting together a computer in the "Hackintosh" Guide.

You won't get as good of performance out of a prebuilt.

Case: Raidmax Tornado ATX238-WR (Atx Mid)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156226
$29.99

CPU: C2D E8400 @3.0ghz (VERY overclockable)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037
$167.99

CPU Cooler: Arctic COoling Freezer 7 Pro (92mm)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134
$28.98

Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148433
$89.99

RAM: OCZ Gold 4gb (2x2gb) DDR2-800
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227199
$45.99

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-G31M-ES2l (LGA775)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128357
$52.99

Power Supply: Rosewill Stallion Series RD600N 600w
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182087
$54.99

Sound Card: SIIG IC-70012-S2 (7.1 channel, 24-bit 96khz)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829270006
$34.99

Video Card: Asus EAH4670 HD4670 1GB 128-bit DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121328
$74.99

$580.09
U Gotta Skate.
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
August 17 2009 07:06 GMT
#3
If I were you, I'd go to tomshardware.com and look at the system builder marathon articles, preferably the latest article.

They try to make the best pc possible in a certain price range, and they make damn good ones.
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MacWorld
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden227 Posts
August 17 2009 07:10 GMT
#4
Buildning your own computer shouldn´t take more than an hour or so. Anyways, the software you intend to run along with a good external audio interface is equally importnant (performance wise). You can easily run quite alot of tracks in Logic on a Mac Mini with 4gb of ram. It´s a bit over your budget though. And Mac Mini is hardly most bang for the bucks..
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
August 17 2009 07:12 GMT
#5
if it helps i use primarily reason and ableton
Moderatorsloppy little slug
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-17 07:16:51
August 17 2009 07:16 GMT
#6
I am going to get so much shit for this.

But, buy a Dell unless you're planning on pirating Windows. I'm dead serious. Hands down, it's a much better deal than what you can build.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-17 07:25:32
August 17 2009 07:22 GMT
#7
https://ecomm2.dell.com/dellstore/basket.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&itemtype=CFG&oid=7fb57ca7-bc7e-45e8-ab75-3ca42c63a710

Tada. $400, a pretty good processor, 4 gigs of RAM, Vista. All you have to do is find out what kind of sound card you need for what you'll be doing and buy that off of newegg.

As long as you're not running an antivirus program that takes up a lot of processing power, this should be enough for what you want to do. If you're not confident, you can upgrade the processor (I think it costs ~80 to get an Athlon X3)
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Dewis
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Finland344 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-17 08:30:09
August 17 2009 08:28 GMT
#8
A 7.1 soundcard for music production is a terrible idea since all music is still mixed in regular stereo. Some M-Audio soundcard should work fine, and even an on-board sound chip might work if you have a limited budget.

EDIT: About the soundcard, it doesn't necessarily harm to have support for 5 or 7 channels. My point was that you won't need that when you produce music.
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-17 08:52:22
August 17 2009 08:47 GMT
#9
i came up with 2 builds for consideration

https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx?ID=11555292

https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx?ID=11554972

think you are far better off with the first one. doing some reading the software you use (at least ableton) seems to be optimized to use quad core so you'll see a pretty big jump over duals.

the amd build is just better in terms of the hardware you get so i'd suggest that.
why did i even include that
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
August 17 2009 08:56 GMT
#10
Guys he doesn't want to build his own computer... he said he's "computer illiterate" and that's not where you want to be when you're building one

So if you're going to give him a list of newegg parts you're going to have to include a computer building service with it.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
August 17 2009 09:03 GMT
#11
for $500 you won't be getting much pre-built.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
Mah Buckit!
Profile Joined April 2009
Finland474 Posts
August 17 2009 09:25 GMT
#12
On August 17 2009 15:57 intrigue wrote:
hey guys! i'm sorry if i sound really stupid here but i am terribly computer illiterate and i need help.

so recently i've been really getting into music production but my computer blows. i'm looking for a desktop that has as much ram as possible and dual core+ for around 500 dollars. the stuff i'm doing requires lots and lots of tracks and programs and processing stuffs and shit to be running at the same time, and i'd like to also plug in a midi keyboard and some recording gear. basically, fastest computer possible for lowest price? i'm sorry i can't really be more specific.

i've asked some producer friends to help and browsed some sites like slickdeals but i have no idea what i'm looking at =\ mayday!!

thanks in advance

edit: i am somewhat on a time limit too, so something preassembled would be the best. i'm fine with maybe sticking together really obvious and basic things, but the simpler the better please!


Atleast here you can easily find used computers built for music tracking, mixing and other homestudio purposes. I´d go with used. OS is also important. There´s a linux version (maybe more than one) designed for this purpose.
Starcraft? Epic Grimness.
ProTech_MediC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States498 Posts
August 17 2009 10:07 GMT
#13
People are making this much too complicated.

Go to HP.com or Dell.com and pick out the best PC for your price range. You can get a HP Pavilion Elite from $650 with everything you'd need for the short term: enough CPU power, enough HD space, a nice monitor, matching peripherals, Windows, anti-virus, and a year of support.

I'm running a HP Pavilion 2.4 Quad Core (Vista x64) 6 GB RAM that I got on sale last Christmas for $600. I routinely run Ableton Live with Reason rewired and I have yet to overload the CPU or cause clipping.
MC Fighting!~
Dewis
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Finland344 Posts
August 17 2009 10:11 GMT
#14
On August 17 2009 19:07 ProTech_MediC wrote:
People are making this much too complicated.

Go to HP.com or Dell.com and pick out the best PC for your price range. You can get a HP Pavilion Elite from $650 with everything you'd need for the short term: enough CPU power, enough HD space, a nice monitor, matching peripherals, Windows, anti-virus, and a year of support.

I'm running a HP Pavilion 2.4 Quad Core (Vista x64) 6 GB RAM that I got on sale last Christmas for $600. I routinely run Ableton Live with Reason rewired and I have yet to overload the CPU or cause clipping.


True to some extent but this doesn't always apply. Since you don't need any GPU performance for music production you can buy a cheap gfx card and use the money for a better cpu and more ram.
WeSt
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Portugal918 Posts
August 17 2009 10:22 GMT
#15
Any computer runs a midi keyboard you just need usb yo.
I'm on my old laptop and using FL studio 8, reason and ableton and I have to say it never has major lag issues... just render the synths to wav and then use them on your track instead of running the VST or whatever AND the effects.
zvz is imba
Killy
Profile Joined September 2008
United States39 Posts
August 17 2009 14:24 GMT
#16
YO, I've been making techno/house/hip hop records since the mid 90's. I've used programs like Cubase, Logic, Reason,etc,over the years. But currently use Ableton also. Ableton is definetly the fastest sequencer to get your tracks from Concept to Cut. Last night I was working on a new Q-tip bootleg 8)
People are going to be upset about this, but Mac is the industry standard. Period. Your not going to get one for $500, unless you buy a used one, which is also an option. You can get them on Craigslist for a round that.
I also don't want to rain on your parade, but making music is VERY expensive. Just getting your tracks mastered can cost $500. But that's a whole different subject.

Good Luck
PM if you have questions
Money is your army, every dollar is a soldier
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
August 17 2009 15:35 GMT
#17
you could try this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883113102

and throw a sound card on it but i dunno
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
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