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TLnet Poll - What do you think of the hybrid BW/SC2 Prolea…

What do you think of the hybrid BW/SC2 Proleague? :

Not so hot, but it's a necessary transition.step. (4662)44%
Kill that abomination with fire. (3649)34%
Great Idea! I'm all for it! (2394)22%

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Apack
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada159 Posts
May 22 2012 18:10 GMT
#1
It's bad for the players but I don't mind it that much as a spectator. We'll see better SC2 games once the switch completely.
TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
May 22 2012 18:11 GMT
#2
It does make it difficult for the players. But I've been a fan of bw and sc2 and having a league that allows me to watch both and have both games matter is really exciting from a specator point of view
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GAFFELTRUCK
Profile Joined April 2011
13 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-22 18:13:55
May 22 2012 18:12 GMT
#3
I bet many will vote for "Kill that abomination with fire" just because of the way it´s put in words
Fus
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1112 Posts
May 22 2012 18:19 GMT
#4
I don't like it, play either BW or SC2.
NaNiwa | Innovation | Flash | DeMuslim ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
May 22 2012 18:31 GMT
#5
Last time I can think of a hybrid league, it was called CGS, and it was horrible.
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ErAsc2
Profile Joined May 2012
Sweden256 Posts
May 22 2012 18:33 GMT
#6
I've only played SC2 and I'm loving it. The commentator Sayle is really good at explaining the BroodWar stuffs for somebody who's never played it. I've tried a couple of times to tune into BroodWar streams previously and it isn't fun when I've no clue about what's going on. So for me, this is perfect. Can watch sc2 on the same time as I learn about its precursor.

On the other hand, I can understand how some people would hate this. If I wasn't so curious about bw, I'd probably also want them to go all-in on 1 game rather than being meh at both.
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zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
May 22 2012 18:37 GMT
#7
KILL IT. The quality of the games have been awful, and I can't imagine the amount of stress the players are going through.
Hilo
Profile Joined December 2010
Estonia114 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-22 18:41:51
May 22 2012 18:41 GMT
#8
It's like watching diamond players with high masters - gm micro... so it is only good for transition.... sad to see BW go... you will always be in my heart </3
ZergMaestro
Profile Joined January 2011
United States169 Posts
May 22 2012 18:42 GMT
#9
the ace game being sc2 is a bit wierd, but its a cool idea.
Ma Jae Yoon #1. The ONLY Maestro. Effort.
oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
May 22 2012 18:46 GMT
#10
sc2 game are pretty bad, and you can sense the lack of practise in the bw games. We should give it some time before judging tho, it just started, and team are pretty much still trying to find the perfect balance
I like starcraft
McKTenor13
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1383 Posts
May 22 2012 19:09 GMT
#11
I was very skeptical at first but I love it. It's going to be so fun watching these players grow into incredible Sc2 players. I think it's awesome to watch these players have incredible mechanics and micro, but terrible game sense. It makes the games really interesting right now and the process of watching them grow will be fun.

Plus I never watched Brood War, so I'm having a blast learning about why everyone loved BW so much.
If you can chill. chill. - Liquid'Tyler
tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
May 22 2012 19:20 GMT
#12
It's really great for spectators. As a spectator, I would vote for "Great, I'm all for it." From a wider perspective that considers the players and the state of the scene as a whole, I'd call it a necessary transition. Sucks to have to practice two games at once, and as we get deeper into the season game quality is going to start to decline.
Uni1987
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands642 Posts
May 22 2012 19:38 GMT
#13
BW ran its course, time for a new, better game

User was warned for this post
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8171 Posts
May 22 2012 19:38 GMT
#14
this league has produced almost nothing but the worst games in both games in years. end the suffering. end proleague
Free Palestine
Felvo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States124 Posts
May 22 2012 19:38 GMT
#15
I just think it's extremely hard on the players to be able to practice for both games with such high expectations for success ni both games.
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-22 19:56:55
May 22 2012 19:56 GMT
#16
Having players practice for both games is ridiculously stupid. They should have left the team a free choice who was gonna play BW and who was gonna play SC2. Of course they don't want that, so we're left with this trainwreck.

On May 23 2012 04:38 Uni1987 wrote:
BW ran its course, time for a new, better game

Don't start this shit.
Always smile~
FecalTank
Profile Joined March 2012
United States70 Posts
May 22 2012 20:16 GMT
#17
It's a big clusterfuck right now, but hopefully they can figure something better out in the near future.
"Why is it that one knows not what one will do in the future, nor what one thought of it back then?" | Goddamnit Oreki, it was right there.
Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
May 22 2012 20:16 GMT
#18
I like the idea of both games in Proleague while BW is still around, but having the BW players who are trying to switch play both games at the the same time is really fucking stupid.
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
May 22 2012 20:17 GMT
#19
On May 23 2012 04:56 Spekulatius wrote:
Having players practice for both games is ridiculously stupid. They should have left the team a free choice who was gonna play BW and who was gonna play SC2. Of course they don't want that, so we're left with this trainwreck.

Show nested quote +
On May 23 2012 04:38 Uni1987 wrote:
BW ran its course, time for a new, better game

Don't start this shit.

In the BW forums, it's the reverse non-stop, and no-one tells them to shut up. Let people flaunt their opinions.
INTOtheVOID
Profile Joined January 2012
United States225 Posts
May 22 2012 21:14 GMT
#20
It's horrible, and I can't believe that anyone would support this idea, be it sponsors, players, fans, etc. Either keep BW and SC2 separate, or full on transition to SC2. Having this mix only lowers the quality of games. I watched the first night of this new proleague, and it was terrible to see. As a BW fan, the games were sloppy and not even near the quality of the games that took place this past proleague season. As a SC2 fan, it was like watching GSL season 1 all over again. So yes....

Kill that abomination with fire
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