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Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
December 07 2008 22:49 GMT
#141
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Poll: Does TL.net objectify it's cute schoolgirls?
(Vote): Intrigue
(Vote): Hot Bid
(Vote): No

There is only one way to find the truth.
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LonelyMargarita
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
1845 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-07 22:53:25
December 07 2008 22:50 GMT
#142
On December 08 2008 07:46 iloveoil wrote:
ya'll niggas posting in a troll thread



The OP is the troll. Someone with like 5 posts suddenly makes a conflict-oriented thread that he posts 30 times in? It's pretty obvious. I would recommend closing the thread.

EDIT: Also IP check the OP for other accounts. I wouldn't be surprised if he's also the guy that made the anti-women troll thread.
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Krohm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1857 Posts
December 07 2008 22:50 GMT
#143
On December 08 2008 07:44 Klogon wrote:
I want to dig up Rosa Parks from her grave and bury her in the back of a bus. That'll teach that woman to sit down.

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racist and sexist at the same time.

Holy Christ Klogon, I just died laughing.


Anyway, this thread is stupid... I mean there isn't much more to say. It's just a flame bait thread that'll end up going no where fast.
Not bad for a cat toy.
Descent
Profile Joined January 2008
1244 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-07 23:35:20
December 07 2008 22:50 GMT
#144
On December 08 2008 07:41 Aesop wrote:
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On December 08 2008 07:32 fgsvsd wrote:
On December 08 2008 07:07 Dutch wrote:
On December 08 2008 06:46 Kalynn wrote:
On December 08 2008 06:42 Dutch wrote:
On December 08 2008 06:26 Kalynn wrote:
On December 08 2008 06:22 Dutch wrote:
The culture of this site is pretty much males 16-25 I'd say. Obviously there is going to be talk about women, and not all in a positive fashion. If this was a bunch of friends out for a night on the town it wouldn't be a problem. But because it's on the internet a bunch of pussys like to speak up and rain on the parade.

Equality should exist in all places, not some.
Acting this way in secrecy is not an excuse, it only perpetuates sexism in all places.


In secrecy? There is nothing secret about it. When you are out for a night with the guys whats the problem with talking about the pussy you picked up? If a girl acted like a whore or was retarded, what's wrong with talking about it? It doesn't go against equality in the least. I don't think anyone here is saying women should be treated differently than men, or that they should be locked up in cages. I think your problem is with language. You find specific words to be inherently sexist, a false idea. Words cannot be sexist/racist whatever on their own. It is the meaning that was intended behind them and you are missing that.

Because a woman is not a pussy. she is a woman. You can't define a woman like she is an object, that is fundamental to being sexist. She is not a cunt or a whore or a bitch. The origin of the words isn't my point. If you think that you aren't causing any pain when using this language then you are mistaken.


When I'm out with the guys it's called pussy. Why? Because we understand that we are using the word pussy to mean women that we have picked up or are going to pick up. It's an ease of use thing. If you want to give it some sort of malicious meaning that's your problem. Keep it to yourself though and don't preach.

On December 08 2008 07:08 Dutch wrote:
The OP needs to lossen up and get laid.
Even though I believe Dutch to be a noob due to his previous thread, he is spot on right here.


You are amusing. I actually found Dutch's comments way too stupid to respond to.

If he wants to use some specific lingo with his friends while they are out, he has all the rights in the world to do so. It will perhaps reveal some parts about his attitutes towards the other gender, but if he considers it nifty as a "ease of use" thing, he can use it with his buddies all he wants.

But TL.net is a public place. Everyone can read it. It has rules. And substituting "women" with "pussies" is every bit as malicious as a substitution can be (read above). This is not a matter of personal interpretation but a culturally wide-spread stereotype that is real.

Please clarify "amusing." I think you mean the word not in a good way, but I want to be sure in this topic.

Also, fgsvsd, come on. All of the replies since your post have been right. Most people have one, but that particular organ is undesirable; thus it's clearly a derogatory term when in colloquial use. I think Kalynn's previous posts revealed intelligence, especially the one where she reasoned why she answered as to her gender.

Edit: Linguistics probably isn't the right word...Hrm. Re-worked the sentence.
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CFDragon
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States304 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-07 22:54:02
December 07 2008 22:52 GMT
#145
Well, I do think it's nothing more than a fantasy to believe we'll ever remove sexism 100%; however, it also seems that sometimes Teamliquid is a bit too lenient about it. Sure, there are a lot of jokes and it may all seem like fun and games, but we forget that maybe there are people who are seeing the jokes in a more serious manner. Personally, it doesn't affect me at all, I'm a male, but think of a member who recently found TL and comes across a thread with many sexist remarks.
pyogenes
Profile Joined May 2003
Brazil1401 Posts
December 07 2008 22:52 GMT
#146
why make a rule if it's not really going to be enforced?

i think i agree with the op. and this thread just shows how degraded these great boards have become. so much trash in this thread. im a huge lurker, i barely post, but i did used to post more because this place used to be so much more awesome. now i barely read the boards =(
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
December 07 2008 22:52 GMT
#147
On December 08 2008 07:50 LonelyMargarita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2008 07:46 iloveoil wrote:
ya'll niggas posting in a troll thread



The OP is the troll. Someone with like 5 posts suddenly makes a conflict-oriented thread that he posts 30 times in? It's pretty obvious. I would recommend closing the thread.

EDIT: Also IP check the OP for other accounts.

Oh yeah, someone couldn't actually have hurt feelings and be a girl? No way, it's the internet. /sarcasm.
Jaedong
Kalynn
Profile Joined November 2008
Canada47 Posts
December 07 2008 22:52 GMT
#148
On December 08 2008 07:50 LonelyMargarita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2008 07:46 iloveoil wrote:
ya'll niggas posting in a troll thread



The OP is the troll. Someone with like 5 posts suddenly makes a conflict-oriented thread that he posts 30 times in? It's pretty obvious. I would recommend closing the thread.

EDIT: Also IP check the OP for other accounts.

I didn't come here to troll. I came here to join a SC community. I'm allowed to voice my opinion if ive been personally offended by posts that go against the rules.
"L'orgueil est le consolateur des faibles (pride is the consolation of the weak)" -Vauvenargues
Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
December 07 2008 22:54 GMT
#149
The point is that you have no contribution to the community, and you're trying to fix something you don't belong to. It's a little.. strange.
Never give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.
LonelyMargarita
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
1845 Posts
December 07 2008 22:55 GMT
#150
On December 08 2008 07:52 Kalynn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2008 07:50 LonelyMargarita wrote:
On December 08 2008 07:46 iloveoil wrote:
ya'll niggas posting in a troll thread



The OP is the troll. Someone with like 5 posts suddenly makes a conflict-oriented thread that he posts 30 times in? It's pretty obvious. I would recommend closing the thread.

EDIT: Also IP check the OP for other accounts.

I didn't come here to troll. I came here to join a SC community. I'm allowed to voice my opinion if ive been personally offended by posts that go against the rules.


If you're not a troll and can't tell the difference between the obvious troll posts here, stick to the starcraft forums. General and blogs have nothing to do with starcraft. You're either a troll or you're very new to the internet.
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crazie-penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States1253 Posts
December 07 2008 22:55 GMT
#151
On December 08 2008 07:50 LonelyMargarita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2008 07:46 iloveoil wrote:
ya'll niggas posting in a troll thread



The OP is the troll. Someone with like 5 posts suddenly makes a conflict-oriented thread that he posts 30 times in? It's pretty obvious. I would recommend closing the thread.

EDIT: Also IP check the OP for other accounts. I wouldn't be surprised if he's also the guy that made the anti-women troll thread.

wait what's wrong with posting 30 times in a conflict oriented thread?
CFDragon
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States304 Posts
December 07 2008 22:56 GMT
#152
Even if it is just a troll post, there is a point here. It's a rule that's not being enforced. Why even put it in the commandments if there's not going to be anyone following it?
yoshtodd
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States418 Posts
December 07 2008 22:56 GMT
#153
On December 08 2008 07:54 FzeroXx wrote:
The point is that you have no contribution to the community, and you're trying to fix something you don't belong to. It's a little.. strange.


Maybe more women would try and belong to the community if there wasn't so much misogyny in it.
moo
Krohm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1857 Posts
December 07 2008 22:56 GMT
#154
I'm honestly amazed no one has posted "tits or gtfo" yet.
Not bad for a cat toy.
Myxomatosis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2392 Posts
December 07 2008 22:57 GMT
#155
women are only good for three things: cooking, cleaning and vaginas.
Kalynn
Profile Joined November 2008
Canada47 Posts
December 07 2008 22:59 GMT
#156
i just wanted to point it out because maybe other people were afraid to.. i didnt come here to start a fight, I wanted to remind people that some things are offensive and they might want to think twice about posting something rude
"L'orgueil est le consolateur des faibles (pride is the consolation of the weak)" -Vauvenargues
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
December 07 2008 23:01 GMT
#157
On December 08 2008 07:43 Kalynn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2008 07:39 fgsvsd wrote:
On December 08 2008 07:10 Kalynn wrote:
On December 08 2008 07:04 fgsvsd wrote:
On December 08 2008 07:01 MrBabyHands wrote:
On December 08 2008 06:46 Kalynn wrote:

Because a woman is not a pussy. she is a woman.



I....I'm.... not sure i understand.
Kalynn isn't a woman. But he's a pussy.

You're obviously not understanding my point. The word pussy is a derogatory word used to describe both men and women. Calling someone a pussy is basically saying - 'you are equal to female genetalia, which is a bad thing to be.'

I AM a woman, and I am sick of being called names, here.
So if I call someone an asshole, I'm being derogative to every being in possession of an asshole?

no, you are likening them to a particular body part that is not very pleasant

I hope you're only able to type because you have a computer in your kitchen.



In all seriousness, I think we all need to learn that "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me". Now, I'm not advocating apathy toward things we don't approve of and just taking it, but one shouldn't let it hinder our happiness,etc. In english class my teacher handed out a packet talking about Epictetus (I found it very interesting, I would quote his philosophy but I'm not at home ATM). Here are two of his quotes I found on Wiki:

We are disturbed not by events, but by the views which we take of them.

I must die. Must I then die lamenting? I must be put in chains. Must I then also lament? I must go into exile. Does any man then hinder me from going with smiles and cheerfulness and contentment?

I remember watching a video talking about African American students reading Huckleberry Finn and when they were interviewed most of them had a problem with the word "nigger" used in the book. In fact a mother of one of the students brought it to the teacher who required the reading (who also happened to be African American I believe) and to the school district to get the book removed from the required reading list. I found it absolutely ridiculous. Why is it so bad to read a word? I know, I know, it has a lot of negative history and depth behind it but COME ON. It's just a WORD. If I heard someone say the word "chink" or any other derogatory phrase toward asians, I wouldn't LIKE the person but most of the time people aren't even being serious, so I don't take it seriously.



Words are NOT serious business (especially not those on the internet).
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
December 07 2008 23:01 GMT
#158
On December 08 2008 07:50 LonelyMargarita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2008 07:46 iloveoil wrote:
ya'll niggas posting in a troll thread

The OP is the troll. Someone with like 5 posts suddenly makes a conflict-oriented thread that he posts 30 times in? It's pretty obvious. I would recommend closing the thread.

Some appear to be seeing this as a manifest issue though. Not only the op.
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gymni
Profile Joined October 2008
United States32 Posts
December 07 2008 23:01 GMT
#159
On December 08 2008 07:55 LonelyMargarita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2008 07:52 Kalynn wrote:
On December 08 2008 07:50 LonelyMargarita wrote:
On December 08 2008 07:46 iloveoil wrote:
ya'll niggas posting in a troll thread



The OP is the troll. Someone with like 5 posts suddenly makes a conflict-oriented thread that he posts 30 times in? It's pretty obvious. I would recommend closing the thread.

EDIT: Also IP check the OP for other accounts.

I didn't come here to troll. I came here to join a SC community. I'm allowed to voice my opinion if ive been personally offended by posts that go against the rules.


If you're not a troll and can't tell the difference between the obvious troll posts here, stick to the starcraft forums. General and blogs have nothing to do with starcraft. You're either a troll or you're very new to the internet.


Are you denying the problem exists (even though it was demonstrated in this very thread)?

Would you agree to racial attacks towards an individual if he claimed he was offended by some racial posts here?
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-07 23:02:42
December 07 2008 23:01 GMT
#160
On December 08 2008 07:56 CFDragon wrote:
Even if it is just a troll post, there is a point here. It's a rule that's not being enforced. Why even put it in the commandments if there's not going to be anyone following it?


So I can ban you and use that as an excuse.

I actually have finals so I don't know why I'm here. Um I'm just going to close this, and if a mod want to reopen after reading more into it, feel free. I think this thread is already shit from what I've seen.

or at least feedback forum. Move it to closed if you wish.
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