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On December 08 2008 07:04 yoshtodd wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2008 06:57 sith wrote:
It would be a big deal (to me and most people), but it wouldn't get brought up because unless you felt strongly enough that it was wrong, there would be no incentive to go against it, as you yourself isn't being offended. Okay so if the whole forum tolerated racism, and someone of another race liked starcraft and decided to join, is their well being incentive enough to speak up?
I don't know, you tell me? I'm not for racism/sexism here, I'm just pointing out the fact that sexism isn't brought up as an issue here because of the lack of females, and I was just using racism as a similar case, where if everyone was the same race (in our case the same sex) it wouldn't be brought up as an issue.
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On December 08 2008 06:36 d_so wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2008 06:26 ThaddeusK wrote:On December 08 2008 06:14 d_so wrote:On December 08 2008 06:02 ThaddeusK wrote:On December 08 2008 05:37 d_so wrote:
why? because even on the internets, there are a few things which are taboo and you shouldn't fuck with: racism, sexism, socialism, nazism. wat? when did this happen, cause last i checked all of those things are rather common on the internet >.< Also, how did an economic theory based around collective ownership get on the same list as racism, sexism, and nazism. i never said they don't exist on the internet. i'm saying that if anything is punishable on the internet, it's abusing or claiming some sort of affinity towards these precepts. and do you feel smarter using six words to express something i expressed in one? Also, don't describe something as an economic theory when it's not. perhaps i should have said communism, not socialism, but either way neither of them are economic theories, although they derive much of their justification from the economic theory of welfare economics. nub allow me to rephrase, wat? when did this happen, cause last checked none of those things are taboo on the internet, anyone who has been on the internet for me than 5 minutes should have realized that not only are they common but on many sites, no one cares >.< Also, how did an economic theory based around collective ownership get on the same list as racism, sexism, and nazism. You see, i used 6 words there instead of one to show how it doesn't belong on that list, cause its completely different from the other three things. Also, i do not see how "a socioeconomic structure and political ideology that promotes the establishment of an egalitarian, classless society based on common ownership of the means of production and property in general" fits on the same list as racism, sexism, and nazism. -_- are you saying that these precepts i listed are not bannable offenses on many boards? even if that ban is not enforced, is it not part of the rules, just like it is here on tl? so can you understand why i said that "if anything is punishable, it is for abusing or expressing affinity for any of these precepts"?
yes, on many boards they are not bannable offenses, they are here and a lot of other boards, but not all, there are also a lot that dont care.
you need to go take some econ classes and actually understand what an economic theory is before you try to assert your intelligence with a verbose string of multisyllabic words you don't even understand you little as;kldfj;as.
sorry, missed the part of my post where i tried to assert my intelligence, care to point it out? all i see is me trying to say that socialism doesnt belong on that list. sorry if my vocabulary is too big for teh intarwebs
i know that wikipedia isn't the most trusted source in the world, but im too lazy to come up with a better one at the moment...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism
Socialism refers to a broad set of economic theories of social organization advocating state or collective ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods, and an egalitarian society characterized by equal opportunities for all individuals.
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Hungary11305 Posts
On December 08 2008 07:21 sith wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2008 07:04 yoshtodd wrote:On December 08 2008 06:57 sith wrote:
It would be a big deal (to me and most people), but it wouldn't get brought up because unless you felt strongly enough that it was wrong, there would be no incentive to go against it, as you yourself isn't being offended. Okay so if the whole forum tolerated racism, and someone of another race liked starcraft and decided to join, is their well being incentive enough to speak up? I don't know, you tell me? I'm not for racism/sexism here, I'm just pointing out the fact that sexism isn't brought up as an issue here because of the lack of females, and I was just using racism as a similar case, where if everyone was the same race (in our case the same sex) it wouldn't be brought up as an issue.
You are wrong. Clearly this thread and the 10 commandmends speak a different language. The policy is simply not enforced because these stereotypes are way to virulent and have too many different shades.
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On December 08 2008 07:07 Dutch wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2008 06:46 Kalynn wrote:On December 08 2008 06:42 Dutch wrote:On December 08 2008 06:26 Kalynn wrote:On December 08 2008 06:22 Dutch wrote:
The culture of this site is pretty much males 16-25 I'd say. Obviously there is going to be talk about women, and not all in a positive fashion. If this was a bunch of friends out for a night on the town it wouldn't be a problem. But because it's on the internet a bunch of pussys like to speak up and rain on the parade. Equality should exist in all places, not some. Acting this way in secrecy is not an excuse, it only perpetuates sexism in all places. In secrecy? There is nothing secret about it. When you are out for a night with the guys whats the problem with talking about the pussy you picked up? If a girl acted like a whore or was retarded, what's wrong with talking about it? It doesn't go against equality in the least. I don't think anyone here is saying women should be treated differently than men, or that they should be locked up in cages. I think your problem is with language. You find specific words to be inherently sexist, a false idea. Words cannot be sexist/racist whatever on their own. It is the meaning that was intended behind them and you are missing that. Because a woman is not a pussy. she is a woman. You can't define a woman like she is an object, that is fundamental to being sexist. She is not a cunt or a whore or a bitch. The origin of the words isn't my point. If you think that you aren't causing any pain when using this language then you are mistaken. When I'm out with the guys it's called pussy. Why? Because we understand that we are using the word pussy to mean women that we have picked up or are going to pick up. It's an ease of use thing. If you want to give it some sort of malicious meaning that's your problem. Keep it to yourself though and don't preach.
On December 08 2008 07:08 Dutch wrote:
The OP needs to lossen up and get laid. Even though I believe Dutch to be a noob due to his previous thread, he is spot on right here.
It is YOU(Kalynn) giving those words a negative connotation.
I'm sorry for whatever might have happened to you for you to feel offended so easily.
But your reasons for feeling offended just don't have any substance in my eyes.
Provide a few palpable thread-relevant examples of substance to justify your feelings, and I might just change my mind.
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On December 08 2008 07:32 fgsvsd wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2008 07:07 Dutch wrote:On December 08 2008 06:46 Kalynn wrote:On December 08 2008 06:42 Dutch wrote:On December 08 2008 06:26 Kalynn wrote:On December 08 2008 06:22 Dutch wrote:
The culture of this site is pretty much males 16-25 I'd say. Obviously there is going to be talk about women, and not all in a positive fashion. If this was a bunch of friends out for a night on the town it wouldn't be a problem. But because it's on the internet a bunch of pussys like to speak up and rain on the parade. Equality should exist in all places, not some. Acting this way in secrecy is not an excuse, it only perpetuates sexism in all places. In secrecy? There is nothing secret about it. When you are out for a night with the guys whats the problem with talking about the pussy you picked up? If a girl acted like a whore or was retarded, what's wrong with talking about it? It doesn't go against equality in the least. I don't think anyone here is saying women should be treated differently than men, or that they should be locked up in cages. I think your problem is with language. You find specific words to be inherently sexist, a false idea. Words cannot be sexist/racist whatever on their own. It is the meaning that was intended behind them and you are missing that. Because a woman is not a pussy. she is a woman. You can't define a woman like she is an object, that is fundamental to being sexist. She is not a cunt or a whore or a bitch. The origin of the words isn't my point. If you think that you aren't causing any pain when using this language then you are mistaken. When I'm out with the guys it's called pussy. Why? Because we understand that we are using the word pussy to mean women that we have picked up or are going to pick up. It's an ease of use thing. If you want to give it some sort of malicious meaning that's your problem. Keep it to yourself though and don't preach. Show nested quote +On December 08 2008 07:08 Dutch wrote:
The OP needs to lossen up and get laid. Even though I believe Dutch to be a noob due to his previous thread, he is spot on right here. It is YOU(Kalynn) giving those words a negative connotation. I'm sorry for whatever might have happened to you for you to feel offended so easily. But your reasons for feeling offended just don't have any substance in my eyes. Provide a few palpable thread-relevant examples of substance for your offense, and I might just change my mind.
I can't believe you think that pussy is not a derogatory word. Give me one example in which it is not.
EDIT: its the same as calling someone a dick. Its a word referring to a gender-specific body part used to put someone down
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On December 08 2008 05:55 SonuvBob wrote:
We're very biased.
3 out of 5 women who post on TL are staff/honorary staff.
staff/honorary staff?
Wouldn't they both be honorary?
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On December 08 2008 07:21 sith wrote:
I don't know, you tell me? I'm not for racism/sexism here, I'm just pointing out the fact that sexism isn't brought up as an issue here because of the lack of females, and I was just using racism as a similar case, where if everyone was the same race (in our case the same sex) it wouldn't be brought up as an issue.
Yeah I'm not saying you're for racism or sexism. Was just questioning whether it's okay to tolerate them just because the people being disrespected are not present in the group. You said there's no incentive to bring up sexism as an issue if there's no women. However there are women on this forum, and I think they should be made to feel free and welcome here, and that should be incentive for discussion just as much as if you or I were being labeled and derided for what we were born as.
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On December 08 2008 07:32 fgsvsd wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2008 07:07 Dutch wrote:On December 08 2008 06:46 Kalynn wrote:On December 08 2008 06:42 Dutch wrote:On December 08 2008 06:26 Kalynn wrote:On December 08 2008 06:22 Dutch wrote:
The culture of this site is pretty much males 16-25 I'd say. Obviously there is going to be talk about women, and not all in a positive fashion. If this was a bunch of friends out for a night on the town it wouldn't be a problem. But because it's on the internet a bunch of pussys like to speak up and rain on the parade. Equality should exist in all places, not some. Acting this way in secrecy is not an excuse, it only perpetuates sexism in all places. In secrecy? There is nothing secret about it. When you are out for a night with the guys whats the problem with talking about the pussy you picked up? If a girl acted like a whore or was retarded, what's wrong with talking about it? It doesn't go against equality in the least. I don't think anyone here is saying women should be treated differently than men, or that they should be locked up in cages. I think your problem is with language. You find specific words to be inherently sexist, a false idea. Words cannot be sexist/racist whatever on their own. It is the meaning that was intended behind them and you are missing that. Because a woman is not a pussy. she is a woman. You can't define a woman like she is an object, that is fundamental to being sexist. She is not a cunt or a whore or a bitch. The origin of the words isn't my point. If you think that you aren't causing any pain when using this language then you are mistaken. When I'm out with the guys it's called pussy. Why? Because we understand that we are using the word pussy to mean women that we have picked up or are going to pick up. It's an ease of use thing. If you want to give it some sort of malicious meaning that's your problem. Keep it to yourself though and don't preach. Show nested quote +On December 08 2008 07:08 Dutch wrote:
The OP needs to lossen up and get laid. Even though I believe Dutch to be a noob due to his previous thread, he is spot on right here. It is YOU(Kalynn) giving those words a negative connotation. I'm sorry for whatever might have happened to you for you to feel offended so easily. But your reasons for feeling offended just don't have any substance in my eyes. Provide a few palpable thread-relevant examples of substance to justify your feelings, and I might just change my mind.
On December 08 2008 07:04 fgsvsd wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2008 07:01 MrBabyHands wrote:On December 08 2008 06:46 Kalynn wrote:
Because a woman is not a pussy. she is a woman. I....I'm.... not sure i understand. Kalynn isn't a woman. But he's a pussy.
On December 08 2008 07:00 fgsvsd wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2008 06:22 Hot_Bid wrote:
arb you're an idiot stop trolling him.
WHAT. Are you kidding me? KALYNN is obviously the troll here, refusing to answer a simple fucking question.
Wow, you're just derogatory to people in general. 
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I agree with Kalynn, though I think that people should have more liberty to post whatever they want in there own blogs and therefor the examples are kind of bad.
BTW pussy is of course a derogatory word. Just like dick is.
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On December 08 2008 07:36 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2008 07:32 fgsvsd wrote:On December 08 2008 07:07 Dutch wrote:On December 08 2008 06:46 Kalynn wrote:On December 08 2008 06:42 Dutch wrote:On December 08 2008 06:26 Kalynn wrote:On December 08 2008 06:22 Dutch wrote:
The culture of this site is pretty much males 16-25 I'd say. Obviously there is going to be talk about women, and not all in a positive fashion. If this was a bunch of friends out for a night on the town it wouldn't be a problem. But because it's on the internet a bunch of pussys like to speak up and rain on the parade. Equality should exist in all places, not some. Acting this way in secrecy is not an excuse, it only perpetuates sexism in all places. In secrecy? There is nothing secret about it. When you are out for a night with the guys whats the problem with talking about the pussy you picked up? If a girl acted like a whore or was retarded, what's wrong with talking about it? It doesn't go against equality in the least. I don't think anyone here is saying women should be treated differently than men, or that they should be locked up in cages. I think your problem is with language. You find specific words to be inherently sexist, a false idea. Words cannot be sexist/racist whatever on their own. It is the meaning that was intended behind them and you are missing that. Because a woman is not a pussy. she is a woman. You can't define a woman like she is an object, that is fundamental to being sexist. She is not a cunt or a whore or a bitch. The origin of the words isn't my point. If you think that you aren't causing any pain when using this language then you are mistaken. When I'm out with the guys it's called pussy. Why? Because we understand that we are using the word pussy to mean women that we have picked up or are going to pick up. It's an ease of use thing. If you want to give it some sort of malicious meaning that's your problem. Keep it to yourself though and don't preach. On December 08 2008 07:08 Dutch wrote:
The OP needs to lossen up and get laid. Even though I believe Dutch to be a noob due to his previous thread, he is spot on right here. It is YOU(Kalynn) giving those words a negative connotation. I'm sorry for whatever might have happened to you for you to feel offended so easily. But your reasons for feeling offended just don't have any substance in my eyes. Provide a few palpable thread-relevant examples of substance to justify your feelings, and I might just change my mind. Show nested quote +On December 08 2008 07:04 fgsvsd wrote:On December 08 2008 07:01 MrBabyHands wrote:On December 08 2008 06:46 Kalynn wrote:
Because a woman is not a pussy. she is a woman. I....I'm.... not sure i understand. Kalynn isn't a woman. But he's a pussy. Show nested quote +On December 08 2008 07:00 fgsvsd wrote:On December 08 2008 06:22 Hot_Bid wrote:
arb you're an idiot stop trolling him.
WHAT. Are you kidding me? KALYNN is obviously the troll here, refusing to answer a simple fucking question. Wow, you're just derogatory to people in general.
Lol nice
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women get the respect they deserve
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On December 08 2008 07:10 Kalynn wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2008 07:04 fgsvsd wrote:On December 08 2008 07:01 MrBabyHands wrote:On December 08 2008 06:46 Kalynn wrote:
Because a woman is not a pussy. she is a woman. I....I'm.... not sure i understand. Kalynn isn't a woman. But he's a pussy. You're obviously not understanding my point. The word pussy is a derogatory word used to describe both men and women. Calling someone a pussy is basically saying - 'you are equal to female genetalia, which is a bad thing to be.' I AM a woman, and I am sick of being called names, here. So if I call someone an asshole, I'm being derogative to every being in possession of an asshole?
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Hungary11305 Posts
On December 08 2008 07:32 fgsvsd wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2008 07:07 Dutch wrote:On December 08 2008 06:46 Kalynn wrote:On December 08 2008 06:42 Dutch wrote:On December 08 2008 06:26 Kalynn wrote:On December 08 2008 06:22 Dutch wrote:
The culture of this site is pretty much males 16-25 I'd say. Obviously there is going to be talk about women, and not all in a positive fashion. If this was a bunch of friends out for a night on the town it wouldn't be a problem. But because it's on the internet a bunch of pussys like to speak up and rain on the parade. Equality should exist in all places, not some. Acting this way in secrecy is not an excuse, it only perpetuates sexism in all places. In secrecy? There is nothing secret about it. When you are out for a night with the guys whats the problem with talking about the pussy you picked up? If a girl acted like a whore or was retarded, what's wrong with talking about it? It doesn't go against equality in the least. I don't think anyone here is saying women should be treated differently than men, or that they should be locked up in cages. I think your problem is with language. You find specific words to be inherently sexist, a false idea. Words cannot be sexist/racist whatever on their own. It is the meaning that was intended behind them and you are missing that. Because a woman is not a pussy. she is a woman. You can't define a woman like she is an object, that is fundamental to being sexist. She is not a cunt or a whore or a bitch. The origin of the words isn't my point. If you think that you aren't causing any pain when using this language then you are mistaken. When I'm out with the guys it's called pussy. Why? Because we understand that we are using the word pussy to mean women that we have picked up or are going to pick up. It's an ease of use thing. If you want to give it some sort of malicious meaning that's your problem. Keep it to yourself though and don't preach. Show nested quote +On December 08 2008 07:08 Dutch wrote:
The OP needs to lossen up and get laid. Even though I believe Dutch to be a noob due to his previous thread, he is spot on right here.
You are amusing. I actually found Dutch's comments way too stupid to respond to.
If he wants to use some specific lingo with his friends while they are out, he has all the rights in the world to do so. It will perhaps reveal some parts about his attitutes towards the other gender, but if he considers it nifty as a "ease of use" thing, he can use it with his buddies all he wants.
But TL.net is a public place. Everyone can read it. It has rules. And substituting "women" with "pussies" is every bit as malicious as a substitution can be (read above). This is not a matter of personal interpretation but a culturally wide-spread stereotype that is real.
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On December 08 2008 07:32 fgsvsd wrote:
Even though I believe Dutch to be a noob due to his previous thread, he is spot on right here.
It is YOU(Kalynn) giving those words a negative connotation.
I'm sorry for whatever might have happened to you for you to feel offended so easily.
But your reasons for feeling offended just don't have any substance in my eyes.
Provide a few palpable thread-relevant examples of substance to justify your feelings, and I might just change my mind.
If for some reason everyone referred to you as "that dumb piece of shit" would it be your fault if you felt offended by it, because they're only words and you gave them a negative meaning? Come on now.
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On December 08 2008 07:39 fgsvsd wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2008 07:10 Kalynn wrote:On December 08 2008 07:04 fgsvsd wrote:On December 08 2008 07:01 MrBabyHands wrote:On December 08 2008 06:46 Kalynn wrote:
Because a woman is not a pussy. she is a woman. I....I'm.... not sure i understand. Kalynn isn't a woman. But he's a pussy. You're obviously not understanding my point. The word pussy is a derogatory word used to describe both men and women. Calling someone a pussy is basically saying - 'you are equal to female genetalia, which is a bad thing to be.' I AM a woman, and I am sick of being called names, here. So if I call someone an asshole, I'm being derogative to every being in possession of an asshole?
no, you are likening them to a particular body part that is not very pleasant
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MURICA15980 Posts
I want to dig up Rosa Parks from her grave and bury her in the back of a bus. That'll teach that woman to sit down.
+ Show Spoiler +racist and sexist at the same time.
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ya'll niggas posting in a troll thread
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On December 08 2008 07:43 Kalynn wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2008 07:39 fgsvsd wrote:On December 08 2008 07:10 Kalynn wrote:On December 08 2008 07:04 fgsvsd wrote:On December 08 2008 07:01 MrBabyHands wrote:On December 08 2008 06:46 Kalynn wrote:
Because a woman is not a pussy. she is a woman. I....I'm.... not sure i understand. Kalynn isn't a woman. But he's a pussy. You're obviously not understanding my point. The word pussy is a derogatory word used to describe both men and women. Calling someone a pussy is basically saying - 'you are equal to female genetalia, which is a bad thing to be.' I AM a woman, and I am sick of being called names, here. So if I call someone an asshole, I'm being derogative to every being in possession of an asshole? no, you are likening them to a particular body part that is not very pleasant
So no bad words anymore?
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On December 08 2008 07:46 Kami wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2008 07:43 Kalynn wrote:On December 08 2008 07:39 fgsvsd wrote:On December 08 2008 07:10 Kalynn wrote:On December 08 2008 07:04 fgsvsd wrote:On December 08 2008 07:01 MrBabyHands wrote:On December 08 2008 06:46 Kalynn wrote:
Because a woman is not a pussy. she is a woman. I....I'm.... not sure i understand. Kalynn isn't a woman. But he's a pussy. You're obviously not understanding my point. The word pussy is a derogatory word used to describe both men and women. Calling someone a pussy is basically saying - 'you are equal to female genetalia, which is a bad thing to be.' I AM a woman, and I am sick of being called names, here. So if I call someone an asshole, I'm being derogative to every being in possession of an asshole? no, you are likening them to a particular body part that is not very pleasant So no bad words anymore?
Thats not my point. I'm saying that defining someone by their genitals is sexist and offensive, as well as using that word in a derogatory way.
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Dutch and fgsvsd need to seriously stfu. Fucking dumbasses.
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