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Why was i warned here:
https://tl.net/forum/general/556693-coronavirus-and-you?page=90#1788
When my post was not really more or less political than the one i answered to?
To me, it seems as if Xxio is letting his political slant (which he made very clear in the politics thread) color what he finds problematic and what not here, especially considering that he then also warns GreenHorizons, but doesn't seem to find the posts of Emnjay808 arguing the other side of the issue (that he just happens to agree with) too political?
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You directly said that you felt no sympathy for the poster you responded to in the thread. It has nothing to do with politics until you made it about politics.
GH then said that he supported the people who wanted to steal from the poster. Made it perfectly clear in the politics thread that it was because of his politics.
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I'd say that this:
On March 30 2020 07:01 Emnjay808 wrote: Fucking hilarious
Gotta love how some people take advantage of the system at the cost of other honest-living people
I know that banks will negotiate a price with the homeowner over this period. But just so we’re clear: these tenants said that they’ll pay ZERO lol. That’s one way to live free for 6-months then spin the story that your landlords are the bad guys when they force eviction once it’s legal.
Is at least as political as what i answered to it,
On March 30 2020 07:08 Simberto wrote: Your parents have multiple tenants? I have a hard time feeling sympathy for the poor people who own multiple houses.
User was warned for this post
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What you posted wasn't warned because it was about politics GH was warned because of politics. You were warned because you personally attacked another poster because they happen to be a landlord.
You are now trying to cover for your personal attack by saying that the reason why you were warned is beacuse xxio hates your politics.
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My warning message specifically stated that it was about politics.
Edit: Also, i did not personally attack anyone. I just stated that i have a hard time feeling pity for the plights of those people who own multiple houses.
I am pretty sure almost anyone, except possibly for those who own even more stuff would gladly change places with them.
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Presumably, because he was warning GH and you at the same time and just copy-pasted the reason?
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So now we are guessing as to warning reasons, and cannot even trust the messages by the person who issued the warning who clearly stated why he issued that warning.
(Also, i edited the post above after you posted, because i didn't want to doublepost)
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You again state that landlords don't deserve pity but you excuse it by saying that because they're better off they don't deserve pity. Then delve into paranoia to excuse you making conspiracies into why you were warned instead of accepting what you did.
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The warning clearly stated that i was warned because of politics. How is it paranoid to think that the reason i might be warned was due to politics?
I am not certain if i am allowed to simply post the warning notice here. It was very, very clear. On the other hand, your theory that i might have gotten the wrong warning notice because GH also got warned sounds like reaching.
And why should i be forced to pity the poor owners who have to deal with the horrible problem of owning 4 houses? And if i am not forced to pity them, why may i not say that i do not pity them?
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You are attributing malice when simple expediency makes much more sense.
You don't have to pity people, you don't also have to tell people to their face that they aren't worthy of pity. That's what we in the business call basic decency.
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Definitely a dumb warning, and won't be the last time Xxio moderates a post unsympathetic to the plight of landlords I'd guess. Based on the fact that some dude is running wild in general as we speak, I'd also guess the shortage of active mods is only getting worse.
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On March 31 2020 20:52 farvacola wrote: Definitely a dumb warning, and won't be the last time Xxio moderates a post unsympathetic to the plight of landlords I'd guess. Based on the fact that some dude is running wild in general as we speak, I'd also guess the shortage of active mods is only getting worse. From the time stamps, it took 16 minutes for the guy to be banned. 19 for the follow up permanent. And 2 minutes for his second accout to be permanently banned. And you post is 11 minutes after the first post. Perhaps a bit over dramatic? ;-)
And I don't think the reason was "political", it was just being an asshole. So a warning is fine for me. But his question is legit here, too.
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in absolute terms, sure, but in terms of TL's history of being quite quick at smacking down obvious shit posts, it seemed long. Nevertheless, your point is well taken.
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Fitting choice of words given the content :-D Sadly I opened the spoiler yesterday...
And asshole was too much up there, sorry for that Simberto.
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No offense taken.
I know that some people might take what i wrote as a bit offensive. I still stand by it, and i have explained in the US Pol thread why i feel that way.
I also want to reiterate that my warning clearly stated that it was due to bringing politics into the thread, and NOT due to being offensive in any other way.
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Just curious if you got any response to this feedback Simberto?
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Nothing except for what is in this thread.
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On April 03 2020 23:07 Simberto wrote: Nothing except for what is in this thread.
I don't know what your warning said specifically but I'd just share for the sake of improving our understanding of what transpired that my warning message was very brief and indicated that I was warned for politics.
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i think i remember Simberto defending the greatness of renting a while back. it was versus the ones that go abroad, 'into slavery' for some years, then come back and build/buy their own house. hmmm ...
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That does not sound like something i said, especially the part about "going abroad into slavery". I am pretty sure that that is not something i would ever say, so you might have me mistaken for someone else.
I can not confidently say that i never said that renting is good, though. And on an individual level, it is still the only choice for a lot of people. If the rents are fair and not a way to milk the renters as much as possible, i still think it can be reasonable, because buying a house does make you very immobile, which might not be what everyone wants. The main problem i have with it is that currently, it is a way of transferring large parts of the incomes from workers to owners.
I think renting should be a thing, but for-profit renting should not, and the ever increasing cost of living space in cities is one of the major problems that politics should attempt to solve, but politics prefers to protect the interests of the owners as much as possible, and the owners profit from limiting the supply and thus increasing the worth of the stuff they own.
My warning message was very similar to the one GH describes.
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