I agree with the rest of what you said, I think (as always, I have to read your posts twice to understand what you're saying, but this one was clearer than most
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Acrofales
Spain18291 Posts
I agree with the rest of what you said, I think (as always, I have to read your posts twice to understand what you're saying, but this one was clearer than most ). | ||
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fluidrone
France1478 Posts
Sorry if that point was unclear. Yes, this is all personal for me i admit it every time:i would like my kid to one day soon go on forums and exchange about his gaming and yes i am frankly at a loss to allow him to go anywhere else than on tl... i suppose my thoughts can always be summed up into one phrase: "having fun is a serious thing" | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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Laurens
Belgium4557 Posts
On January 27 2017 18:34 fluidrone wrote: In fact, it is clear that these exchanges/discussions can happen without hate being present in posts.. you can simply state facts and that should be powerful enough, no? I believe someone's stance on the immigration issue is partially formed by personal experiences and experiences from family and friends. Perhaps this is mostly true for those who are against immigration? With that in mind it is pretty hard to have a sensible discussion about immigration with only facts. I think it would be pointless. To look at your example of "Stonings are allowed by law in country X", sure this is a fact that everyone can agree on. But the issue then is: "With this fact in mind, do you think it is possible for people raised in country X to fit in in country Y?", and this is where things get hairy. Discussing that question by simply stating facts isn't gonna work. I fully agree with your first point though, even if the discussions consist entirely of opinions it can be done without hate. Of course what some people qualify as hate speech is not hate speech for others, which is what started this entire thread in the first place... | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
Weow, great, from here, how do we answer "Do you think it is possible for people raised in country X to fit in country Y ?" ? We can't. People need to accept that their experiences ain't worth shit when it comes to deciding nation-wide policies. But no, the same people who are mocking minorities for asking that their rights be respected, the same people who blame the "feminization" of society and the "special snowflakes", are also the ones who can't accept that their own narrow view of the world isn't the dominant one without whining and making up facts to back up their whining. | ||
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Laurens
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