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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18291 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-27 10:37:34
January 27 2017 10:37 GMT
#41
Given the no censorship attached, it's not really a kiddy forum. Visit battle.net or EA forums: those are kiddy forums. This place has always seemed to cater for mature gamers, not kiddies.

I agree with the rest of what you said, I think (as always, I have to read your posts twice to understand what you're saying, but this one was clearer than most ).
fluidrone
Profile Blog Joined January 2015
France1478 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-27 11:08:52
January 27 2017 11:06 GMT
#42
By kiddies' forum i mean that kids are bound to come here, not that they are the norm or anything else. This is a forum dedicated to games and kids come on it for that and therefore are bound to go see the "other" types of content it houses.
Sorry if that point was unclear.
Yes, this is all personal for me i admit it every time:
i would like my kid to one day soon go on forums and exchange about his gaming and yes i am frankly at a loss to allow him to go anywhere else than on tl...

i suppose my thoughts can always be summed up into one phrase: "having fun is a serious thing"
"not enough rights"
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
January 27 2017 12:50 GMT
#43
That previous post before this one was the most cogent post I have ever seen fluidrone made.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
January 27 2017 13:16 GMT
#44
On January 27 2017 18:34 fluidrone wrote:

In fact, it is clear that these exchanges/discussions can happen without hate being present in posts.. you can simply state facts and that should be powerful enough, no?



I believe someone's stance on the immigration issue is partially formed by personal experiences and experiences from family and friends. Perhaps this is mostly true for those who are against immigration?

With that in mind it is pretty hard to have a sensible discussion about immigration with only facts. I think it would be pointless. To look at your example of "Stonings are allowed by law in country X", sure this is a fact that everyone can agree on. But the issue then is: "With this fact in mind, do you think it is possible for people raised in country X to fit in in country Y?", and this is where things get hairy. Discussing that question by simply stating facts isn't gonna work.

I fully agree with your first point though, even if the discussions consist entirely of opinions it can be done without hate.
Of course what some people qualify as hate speech is not hate speech for others, which is what started this entire thread in the first place...
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-27 15:24:23
January 27 2017 15:20 GMT
#45
^What's a point of a discussion without facts, based only on personal experience ? Like, the guy is going to say "You know, my sister got her bag stolen by an Arab in the street, and Arabs look at me with a weird look in the street, so obviously they're not good people", and I'm going to say "Well, you know, I never had bad experiences with Arabs, even though I once walked across an entire - visibly poor - Muslim neighborhood as a white man in visibly expensive clothes, however I got punched in the face by the son of a Portuguese immigrant because I insulted football players".

Weow, great, from here, how do we answer "Do you think it is possible for people raised in country X to fit in country Y ?" ? We can't. People need to accept that their experiences ain't worth shit when it comes to deciding nation-wide policies. But no, the same people who are mocking minorities for asking that their rights be respected, the same people who blame the "feminization" of society and the "special snowflakes", are also the ones who can't accept that their own narrow view of the world isn't the dominant one without whining and making up facts to back up their whining.
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Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
January 27 2017 16:40 GMT
#46
How did you make the jump from "it is pretty hard to have a discussion with only facts" to "a discussion without facts, based only on personal experience"? There is a fairly obvious middle ground there. I thought my post made that clear.

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