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Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4825 Posts
February 15 2018 02:42 GMT
#1961
While it is an annoying thing to post, it's easy to see through and I think everyone outside the conversation can decide for themselves if pulling away is an admission of defeat.

The same goes for the only slightly less obvious maneuver of "hey, poster X, maybe you didn't see my last response to you, or are you ignoring it?"
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-16 18:09:52
February 16 2018 18:09 GMT
#1962
I got to ask, do people I argue with really have problems with my posts? Everytime I engage in debate I seem to always get some weird brush off about my "post history" or "other people already criticise you" or "you have been such a massive ass". Is it really that different in tone to everyone else? What is it in particular?
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 16 2018 18:20 GMT
#1963
On February 17 2018 03:09 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I got to ask, do people I argue with really have problems with my posts? Everytime I engage in debate I seem to always get some weird brush off about my "post history" or "other people already criticise you" or "you have been such a massive ass". Is it really that different in tone to everyone else? What is it in particular?

Yes, your posting is particularly atrocious.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-16 18:32:37
February 16 2018 18:20 GMT
#1964
On February 17 2018 03:09 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I got to ask, do people I argue with really have problems with my posts? Everytime I engage in debate I seem to always get some weird brush off about my "post history" or "other people already criticise you" or "you have been such a massive ass". Is it really that different in tone to everyone else? What is it in particular?

I haven't watched you enough to say, and I don't track everyone in such detail; but such criticisms are common, and such behavior isn't that uncommon, so you could be similar in tone to others and receive such complaints.
if you want I could review a specific exchange and provide an assessment of it.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
February 16 2018 18:31 GMT
#1965
What is it you find particularily atrocious specifically xdaunt?
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18832 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-16 19:45:12
February 16 2018 18:59 GMT
#1966
Your posting is fine, if not sometimes abrasive; xDaunt just only approves of the posts of people who eat out of his hand like he wants them to.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 16 2018 19:03 GMT
#1967
On February 17 2018 03:31 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
What is it you find particularily atrocious specifically xdaunt?

I'll put together a post later. I'm tied up with work right now.
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
February 16 2018 19:04 GMT
#1968
sometimes abrasive, yes.
I carve marble busts of assassinated world leaders - PM for a quote
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
February 16 2018 19:37 GMT
#1969
On February 17 2018 03:59 farvacola wrote:
Your posting is fine, if not sometimes abrasive; xDaunt is just only approves of the posts of people who eat out of his hand like he wants them to.


civility overrated?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18832 Posts
February 16 2018 19:54 GMT
#1970
On February 17 2018 04:37 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2018 03:59 farvacola wrote:
Your posting is fine, if not sometimes abrasive; xDaunt is just only approves of the posts of people who eat out of his hand like he wants them to.


civility overrated?

A lot of terrible shit happens beneath the guise of civility, so maybe? Not sure that's relevant here though
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
February 16 2018 19:56 GMT
#1971
I look forward to reading the list of itemized grievances. The work day can't end fast enough!
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 16 2018 20:07 GMT
#1972
On February 17 2018 04:56 LegalLord wrote:
I look forward to reading the list of itemized grievances. The work day can't end fast enough!

I'll leave this one here as a teaser.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18832 Posts
February 16 2018 20:13 GMT
#1973
I hadn't seen that poll, thanks for the link.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
February 16 2018 21:09 GMT
#1974
I’m hoping for something close to the Kwark takedown earlier in this thread. Don’t let me down xDaunt. I want to see some squirming.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
February 16 2018 21:22 GMT
#1975
being compared to slefin, sheesh, not just poor form, but poor analysis to boot!
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
February 16 2018 21:24 GMT
#1976
On February 17 2018 06:09 Danglars wrote:
I’m hoping for something close to the Kwark takedown earlier in this thread. Don’t let me down xDaunt. I want to see some squirming.

Which one?
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
February 16 2018 21:35 GMT
#1977
On February 17 2018 06:24 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2018 06:09 Danglars wrote:
I’m hoping for something close to the Kwark takedown earlier in this thread. Don’t let me down xDaunt. I want to see some squirming.

Which one?

The one with 5+ direct quotes. Rather close to when Micronesia refused to apply the same standard for singling out xDaunt to other staff/writers.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
February 16 2018 22:01 GMT
#1978
I suppose it's a testament to how many such events occurred that I still can't really pin down which specific one it is.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9214 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-17 13:17:19
February 17 2018 13:15 GMT
#1979
On February 17 2018 03:09 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I got to ask, do people I argue with really have problems with my posts? Everytime I engage in debate I seem to always get some weird brush off about my "post history" or "other people already criticise you" or "you have been such a massive ass". Is it really that different in tone to everyone else? What is it in particular?

Please don't take it as a personal attack, I'm just trying to help.

I think it's because quite often you get yourself into arguments that look more or less like this:

1. Controversial view or action is mentioned
2. You respond by presenting that view or action in a caricatural way, either because you want to mock the poster or because you don't understand the position and for some reason pick the most evil interpretation of it possible (recently I'm leaning toward the latter, years ago I thought you just like to make fun of bardtown, but now I'm starting to think you genuinely don't understand people like him and those more radical)
3. The poster feels insulted by your post and replies with calling you a "massive ass"
4. You and the poster continue the fruitless exchange that turns into arguing about semantics / repeating your positions over and over / trading insults

In short, it looks like you have a tendency to demonize certain opinions. It's easy to remember because of point 4, but I think the root of the problem (if you consider it a problem) is in point 2 - you present the views of your opponents very wrongly (in their mind at least) and it's very annoying to them.

In your defense, it may look like this because you happen to get into those long exchanges with bad posters like sc-darkness whose posting is just indefensible. Yeah, you might be correct in pointing their wrongs out, but I don't get what you're trying to achieve by continuing to exchange posts with them once it's clear the discussion is going nowhere. It makes both of you look petty.
You're now breathing manually
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
February 18 2018 00:31 GMT
#1980
oh, and as always, i'm still looking for a forum that actually doesn't allow ignorant shitposting if anyone knows of one.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
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