• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:01
CEST 00:01
KST 07:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call7[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3
Community News
New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!22Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week2Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles2GSTL Returns in 2026!45Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7
StarCraft 2
General
SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey! Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Announcement IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WORTEX 2026 - Hungarian SC2 Finals Budapest
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 540 Dodge This The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome Mutation # 538 Media Blackout
Brood War
General
25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! BW General Discussion Looking 4 Yaroslav: Enemy, Korchagin, WCG, Ukraine Pros React To: First 'Fastest' Map in ASL History
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro24 Group E Escore Tournament - Season 3 [ASL22] Ro24 Group D [ASL22] Ro24 Group B
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
The Creator Fan Club MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Young Players Exit Esports E…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3056 users

US Politics Feedback Thread - Page 167

Forum Index > Website Feedback
Post a Reply
Prev 1 165 166 167 168 169 344 Next
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-17 19:29:10
July 17 2018 19:28 GMT
#3321
On July 18 2018 04:19 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Ok, ok, band of brothers, you can circle jerk together over whether or not my intention is to shift the goal posts over arguing over foe/economic foe/military foe/whatever.

In fact I'll be gracious and announce open season, that you can discuss what are my true intentions in absentia, and I'll entirely resist the urge to reply whatsoever for 5 days, so you can get it out of your system.

Meanwhile I'll just remain happy that writing #fakenews is essentially banned.

I think we all get that you don't understand what the problem with your posts is. However, did it not strike you as problematic that, not only did people from across the political spectrum describe to you what the problem was, but not one person came to your defense? You need to exercise just a little more self-awareness.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 17 2018 19:52 GMT
#3322
I didn’t think his post was that bad. But clearly this argument does not end until someone is declared winner.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9959 Posts
July 17 2018 20:30 GMT
#3323
i think its safe to say that having read through the last couple of pages, we are all winners.
RIP Meatloaf <3
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
July 17 2018 20:32 GMT
#3324
Having someone declared winner seems like it might have been better in the long run; ofc the loser wouldn't accept the conclusion, so maybe not.
and I doubt there's someone they could mutually agree upon to be the judge; which would just leave the moderators, who've already acted as they chose to on the matter.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 17 2018 20:33 GMT
#3325
By the power invested in me by TeamLiquid, I hereby declare you all to be winners! Everyone happy now?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
July 17 2018 20:39 GMT
#3326
On July 17 2018 08:08 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I get ganged up on all the time. For instance one poster here does so at every possible instance to the extent that I simply don't read his posts anymore. Yet I manage to not do an xdaunt and play a victimisation card. It can be difficult admittedly.

Also, I don't get why xdaunt thinks my posting is unacceptable. What exactly is unacceptable? Care to give an example? Preferably one that isn't from the old pol thread? You frequently write that I should be banned under the rule, without specifying what rule. So here is another chance to be specific. That you view my "rash of posting" as impudence that I would argue against you and point out the gaping holes in what you write, does not my posting unacceptable make.

IgnE gives the example

On July 18 2018 04:19 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Ok, ok, band of brothers, you can circle jerk together over whether or not my intention is to shift the goal posts over arguing over foe/economic foe/military foe/whatever.

In fact I'll be gracious and announce open season, that you can discuss what are my true intentions in absentia, and I'll entirely resist the urge to reply whatsoever for 5 days, so you can get it out of your system.
Meanwhile I'll just remain happy that writing #fakenews is essentially banned.

Don't ask for a doctor's diagnosis and then ignore the result.

For comparison, this is from five months ago in the thread.
On February 17 2018 03:09 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I got to ask, do people I argue with really have problems with my posts? Everytime I engage in debate I seem to always get some weird brush off about my "post history" or "other people already criticise you" or "you have been such a massive ass". Is it really that different in tone to everyone else? What is it in particular?

Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 17 2018 20:50 GMT
#3327
On July 18 2018 05:33 BigFan wrote:
By the power invested in me by TeamLiquid, I hereby declare you all to be winners! Everyone happy now?

Ecstatic.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 17 2018 21:25 GMT
#3328
On July 18 2018 05:39 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2018 08:08 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I get ganged up on all the time. For instance one poster here does so at every possible instance to the extent that I simply don't read his posts anymore. Yet I manage to not do an xdaunt and play a victimisation card. It can be difficult admittedly.

Also, I don't get why xdaunt thinks my posting is unacceptable. What exactly is unacceptable? Care to give an example? Preferably one that isn't from the old pol thread? You frequently write that I should be banned under the rule, without specifying what rule. So here is another chance to be specific. That you view my "rash of posting" as impudence that I would argue against you and point out the gaping holes in what you write, does not my posting unacceptable make.

IgnE gives the example

Show nested quote +
On July 18 2018 04:19 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Ok, ok, band of brothers, you can circle jerk together over whether or not my intention is to shift the goal posts over arguing over foe/economic foe/military foe/whatever.

In fact I'll be gracious and announce open season, that you can discuss what are my true intentions in absentia, and I'll entirely resist the urge to reply whatsoever for 5 days, so you can get it out of your system.
Meanwhile I'll just remain happy that writing #fakenews is essentially banned.

Don't ask for a doctor's diagnosis and then ignore the result.

For comparison, this is from five months ago in the thread.
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2018 03:09 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I got to ask, do people I argue with really have problems with my posts? Everytime I engage in debate I seem to always get some weird brush off about my "post history" or "other people already criticise you" or "you have been such a massive ass". Is it really that different in tone to everyone else? What is it in particular?


We are all Winners. Get it? You already won!
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
July 17 2018 21:49 GMT
#3329
On July 18 2018 06:25 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2018 05:39 Danglars wrote:
On July 17 2018 08:08 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I get ganged up on all the time. For instance one poster here does so at every possible instance to the extent that I simply don't read his posts anymore. Yet I manage to not do an xdaunt and play a victimisation card. It can be difficult admittedly.

Also, I don't get why xdaunt thinks my posting is unacceptable. What exactly is unacceptable? Care to give an example? Preferably one that isn't from the old pol thread? You frequently write that I should be banned under the rule, without specifying what rule. So here is another chance to be specific. That you view my "rash of posting" as impudence that I would argue against you and point out the gaping holes in what you write, does not my posting unacceptable make.

IgnE gives the example

On July 18 2018 04:19 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Ok, ok, band of brothers, you can circle jerk together over whether or not my intention is to shift the goal posts over arguing over foe/economic foe/military foe/whatever.

In fact I'll be gracious and announce open season, that you can discuss what are my true intentions in absentia, and I'll entirely resist the urge to reply whatsoever for 5 days, so you can get it out of your system.
Meanwhile I'll just remain happy that writing #fakenews is essentially banned.

Don't ask for a doctor's diagnosis and then ignore the result.

For comparison, this is from five months ago in the thread.
On February 17 2018 03:09 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I got to ask, do people I argue with really have problems with my posts? Everytime I engage in debate I seem to always get some weird brush off about my "post history" or "other people already criticise you" or "you have been such a massive ass". Is it really that different in tone to everyone else? What is it in particular?


We are all Winners. Get it? You already won!

I love being the winner. I didn't even have to do anything this time!
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14195 Posts
July 17 2018 23:14 GMT
#3330
I would argue that saying that we're all winners is offensive in that once someone has 'won" they can do no more good to their cause. I would prefer to be stated as one with the man of Panthera blood in to be "winning"
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 17 2018 23:15 GMT
#3331
On July 18 2018 08:14 Sermokala wrote:
I would argue that saying that we're all winners is offensive in that once someone has 'won" they can do no more good to their cause. I would prefer to be stated as one with the man of Panthera blood in to be "winning"

Ever heard of “win moar”? Still a chance for that.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14195 Posts
July 18 2018 00:36 GMT
#3332
On July 18 2018 08:15 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2018 08:14 Sermokala wrote:
I would argue that saying that we're all winners is offensive in that once someone has 'won" they can do no more good to their cause. I would prefer to be stated as one with the man of Panthera blood in to be "winning"

Ever heard of “win moar”? Still a chance for that.

This is mearly a motto for those that limit themselves merly to rationalize their further success to themselves. One must have one gear and one speed: go.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 18 2018 03:15 GMT
#3333
On July 18 2018 05:33 BigFan wrote:
By the power invested in me by TeamLiquid, I hereby declare you all to be winners! Everyone happy now?


This feels suspiciously like a participation award. Or is it a continuation of the ABL 3K celebration?
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 18 2018 03:23 GMT
#3334
On July 18 2018 12:15 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2018 05:33 BigFan wrote:
By the power invested in me by TeamLiquid, I hereby declare you all to be winners! Everyone happy now?


This feels suspiciously like a participation award. Or is it a continuation of the ABL 3K celebration?

If everyone wins, no one loses! Nah, that celebration is done at this point. It was a once in a couple of years chance to post a meme and not get actioned unless you were the 2nd poster. Too bad only a single person actually took advantage of it lol.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-18 03:51:07
July 18 2018 03:50 GMT
#3335
I cringe at my older posts from my teen years, but you can tell the level of moderation was completely different, and depended on who you knew from the community. Now, it's been pretty equal moderation across the board. So yea, I miss the old TL at times, but then it reminds me that better moderation just improved people posting here in general, including myself.
Life?
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 18 2018 05:12 GMT
#3336
On July 18 2018 12:23 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2018 12:15 ticklishmusic wrote:
On July 18 2018 05:33 BigFan wrote:
By the power invested in me by TeamLiquid, I hereby declare you all to be winners! Everyone happy now?


This feels suspiciously like a participation award. Or is it a continuation of the ABL 3K celebration?

If everyone wins, no one loses! Nah, that celebration is done at this point. It was a once in a couple of years chance to post a meme and not get actioned unless you were the 2nd poster. Too bad only a single person actually took advantage of it lol.


seems like something thanos would do. balance in all things.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Howie_Dewitt
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1416 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-18 06:19:51
July 18 2018 06:18 GMT
#3337
Is it acceptable to change the subject without warning? I have a question I'd like to ask the thread, but I also understand that a discussion is currently going on.
The question I wanted to ask, and how it would be posted in the actual thread:
+ Show Spoiler +
I have a longer question that I'd like an answer from xDaunt or Sermokala (or someone who considers themselves to the right on this forum) on, as well as the viewpoints which I am almost guaranteed to get when posing a question; I think it might make for an interesting discussion as well.
How do you view the American Dream, and in what context?

Points that I believe interesting to address are:
-What do you think the American Dream is? (Please, not the Wikipedia definition. Your own words would be preferable, as even the way you phrase it is important to understanding how you think. I'm asking as an attempt to educate myself on your views.)
-Does the idea of the American Dream (what your idea of it is) extend to immigrants? Should they be considered the sane as any poorer citizen of the United States, where they can lead a successful and fulfilling life in the United States if they choose to come here? How should policy on immigration effect this?
-Does the American Dream entail more or less government intervention? Is it more in line with guaranteeing everyone a minimum quality of life (which can be considered success compared to life in less developed countries) or the spirit of competition in the market (the American Dream does not work if a lazy person can be guaranteed the same standard as a diligent worker)? How should regulatory practice and types of services provided by the government reflect this?

I'd rather ask if it's okay in here than take a warning to the teeth.
Sisyphus had a good gig going, the disappointment was predictable. | Visions of the Country (1978) is for when you're lost.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5021 Posts
July 18 2018 07:06 GMT
#3338
On July 18 2018 15:18 Howie_Dewitt wrote:
Is it acceptable to change the subject without warning? I have a question I'd like to ask the thread, but I also understand that a discussion is currently going on.
The question I wanted to ask, and how it would be posted in the actual thread:
+ Show Spoiler +
I have a longer question that I'd like an answer from xDaunt or Sermokala (or someone who considers themselves to the right on this forum) on, as well as the viewpoints which I am almost guaranteed to get when posing a question; I think it might make for an interesting discussion as well.
How do you view the American Dream, and in what context?

Points that I believe interesting to address are:
-What do you think the American Dream is? (Please, not the Wikipedia definition. Your own words would be preferable, as even the way you phrase it is important to understanding how you think. I'm asking as an attempt to educate myself on your views.)
-Does the idea of the American Dream (what your idea of it is) extend to immigrants? Should they be considered the sane as any poorer citizen of the United States, where they can lead a successful and fulfilling life in the United States if they choose to come here? How should policy on immigration effect this?
-Does the American Dream entail more or less government intervention? Is it more in line with guaranteeing everyone a minimum quality of life (which can be considered success compared to life in less developed countries) or the spirit of competition in the market (the American Dream does not work if a lazy person can be guaranteed the same standard as a diligent worker)? How should regulatory practice and types of services provided by the government reflect this?

I'd rather ask if it's okay in here than take a warning to the teeth.


I'm not a mod, but I'm going to say of course this would be ok. Current efforts are trying to weed out posts without content. If your post is at least facially genuine and not completely off topic you'll get the benefit of the doubt.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24289 Posts
July 18 2018 07:19 GMT
#3339
Immigration is on the page and it's a legitimate question. The hard part is not dog piling on whatever response it gets. I find myself struggling not to preemptively shit on it already. I'm fairly familiar with traditional conservative positions on the matter so it's mostly just a matter of seeing whether they are shared by those considering themselves right of center or whatever.

I find the question more intriguing to ask liberals personally though. So I suppose if I had a request it would be that anyone wishing to critique someone's response first put forth their own answers in a separate post (and don't double post).
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9643 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-18 14:25:03
July 18 2018 14:23 GMT
#3340
idk where to ask and it surely doesn’t deserve its own thread so, sorry; what’s the deal on emojis? are we cool with using them on TL? because i almost never see them. i felt a little out of place using it in the thread. but is that just in my head?

i know twitch emotes are strictly off the table so idk if that’s the same sort of frowned upon non-verbal communication or what? with the bbcode smilies i feel like i’m sort of in a gray area here.
Prev 1 165 166 167 168 169 344 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 59m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech137
ViBE90
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 28
910 23
Dota 2
febbydoto19
League of Legends
Doublelift4193
Counter-Strike
minikerr111
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox137
Mew2King111
Other Games
Grubby2757
Liquid`RaSZi2673
fl0m1341
ToD295
C9.Mang0202
Livibee129
Organizations
StarCraft 2
WardiTV1066
Other Games
BasetradeTV32
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• musti20045 34
• RyuSc2 23
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21581
League of Legends
• TFBlade944
Other Games
• Shiphtur283
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
1h 59m
Afreeca Starleague
11h 59m
Mini vs Calm
Queen vs EffOrt
Patches Events
17h 59m
Replay Cast
1d 1h
The PondCast
1d 11h
Replay Cast
2 days
Escore
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
GSL
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
GSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 22: Qualifier 1
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
META DYMY #4

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 2
RSL Revival: Season 6
Light Tournament 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

BSL 2026 LAN: Kraków
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Calamity Invitational
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.