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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On July 12 2018 00:49 Danglars wrote: Too much is held in agreement if xDaunt, Introvert, and Sermokala aren't posting. So it's always back to GH's views on Chavez/Maduro, Lenin, and socialism. those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. and thus the thread cycle repeats? | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24391 Posts
On July 12 2018 00:47 Plansix wrote: Sometimes it is easier to talk about world history he thread doesn’t have to give a collective history lesson to a few posters. To be fair, Igne has been doing a good job of that, it's unenviable work. | ||
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IgnE
United States7684 Posts
On July 12 2018 00:24 Danglars wrote: I get the boot and then there's literally hundreds of posts on leninism and the soviet union. Ok, US Politics, you do you rofl. dont worry danglars, most of the thread agrees that lenin was a demon and that good revolutionaries should make peace with the overthrown aristocracy | ||
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Plansix
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On July 12 2018 01:20 IgnE wrote: dont worry danglars, most of the thread agrees that lenin was a demon and that good revolutionaries should make peace with the overthrown aristocracy I don't find discussing Lenin in a debate thread to be interesting. If somebody says he would be preferable to Trump or Hillary, I won't try to argue them out of it. It just isn't an easy progression into relevance today. | ||
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IgnE
United States7684 Posts
On July 12 2018 01:38 Danglars wrote: I don't find discussing Lenin in a debate thread to be interesting. If somebody says he would be preferable to Trump or Hillary, I won't try to argue them out of it. It just isn't an easy progression into relevance today. yeah i mean he was integral to what was only probably the most important event of the 20th century. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 12 2018 01:48 IgnE wrote: yeah i mean he was integral to what was only probably the most important event of the 20th century. I don’t think Danglars disputes that. Only that the progression from Lenin to a current US Presidential candidate is tortured path that isn’t very fruitlful in discussions of current politics. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On July 12 2018 01:48 IgnE wrote: yeah i mean he was integral to what was only probably the most important event of the 20th century. If we were in an upper division political science class or history class, and the audience was that of college students, then your sarcasm would have a point. In this case, it doesn't. The average attention span of the audience will not suffer answering such questions as "In what ways was Lenin and the Russian Revolution worse than failings of today's liberal democracies in the West?": Does Lenin have blood on his hands? Obviously. But so does every American President going back to Washington. Does he have a lot of blood on his hands? Yes. But then again, it is hard to even imagine the situation he and his comrades were in. Related, how much of the socialism of his day is related to socialism's general failings to answer this one: history cannot be wrapped up in a tidy sentence (fragment) like, "tragedy of the commons." people who suggest as much tend to be pretty bad at analyzing "current events" as well. Maybe it's an excellent summary at that stage of generalization, and maybe it's not. The determination between the two will be far longer than the average post. It'll be supported by conclusions from facts that are perhaps both in dispute. And you basically answered your own question IgnE proposition: Lenin was integral to the most important event of the 20th century, so why not discuss? IgnE answer: I know it's fruitless, but I'm reveling in taking this thread to topics beyond the latest bullshit from trump's mouth. | ||
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IgnE
United States7684 Posts
all notwithstanding the occasional place for soliloquy in conversation | ||
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NewSunshine
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On July 12 2018 07:16 Danglars wrote: You can’t even remark about a direction the thread has taken without the usual trolls popping up with the insult play. Maybe your knee-jerk response that everyone is trolling you has something to do with why you got banned again. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
You’re right that Insult play sounds like some sort of kink. No judgment of course. Just not something we do in the thread. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On July 12 2018 00:24 Danglars wrote: I get the boot and then there's literally hundreds of posts on leninism and the soviet union. Ok, US Politics, you do you rofl. I mean, is this really a discussion you're interested in being part of?  | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24391 Posts
On July 12 2018 08:46 Plansix wrote: I think he means talking shit. We just call it roasting someone. As sick burn if you will. Talking a bunch of yang. Spitting game. Laying into someone. Dropping bombs. Straight up mercing the fool. You’re right that Insult play sounds like some sort of kink. No judgment of course. Just not something we do in the thread. lol I think your urban dictionary needs an update | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 12 2018 11:21 GreenHorizons wrote: lol I think your urban dictionary needs an update Ok Portland. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24391 Posts
I feel like I'm missing the reference here? | ||
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LegalLord
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