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On June 02 2012 15:33 Probe1 wrote:
You can't decide what is and isn't offensive for other people. Obvious guidelines can be drawn (no gore, no NSFW content, no thinly veiled images to argue with other images and derail the thread) but what is tasteless and what is genuinely offensive is a line everyone must draw from themselves. Most importantly, if you find something to truly offend you, try sending a PM to the person that posted it explaining why you feel that way and asking them if they would remove it. If not, use a greasemonkey script to remove the picture or simply don't visit the thread.
Welcome back, Probe! :-D
Also, I think beetlisk is making a pretty huge logical mistake in accusing those of us who found the NYAN-ELEVEN picture funny of laughing at 9/11. Like I said in my original post in this thread, I found the jarring juxtaposition of the Nyan Cat and 9/11 funny, and I thought the pun was clever. Was it in bad taste? Of course. But it's not laughing at 9/11. If someone simply posted a picture of the events of 9/11 in the funny pictures thread, the implication of that would be that 9/11 was funny. The NYAN-ELEVEN picture is funny because of the jarring juxtoposition of themes, the cleverness of the title, and the shocking nature of the joke's source material.
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On June 02 2012 19:40 AmericanUmlaut wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2012 15:33 Probe1 wrote:
You can't decide what is and isn't offensive for other people. Obvious guidelines can be drawn (no gore, no NSFW content, no thinly veiled images to argue with other images and derail the thread) but what is tasteless and what is genuinely offensive is a line everyone must draw from themselves. Most importantly, if you find something to truly offend you, try sending a PM to the person that posted it explaining why you feel that way and asking them if they would remove it. If not, use a greasemonkey script to remove the picture or simply don't visit the thread. Welcome back, Probe! :-D Also, I think beetlisk is making a pretty huge logical mistake in accusing those of us who found the NYAN-ELEVEN picture funny of laughing at 9/11. Like I said in my original post in this thread, I found the jarring juxtaposition of the Nyan Cat and 9/11 funny, and I thought the pun was clever. Was it in bad taste? Of course. But it's not laughing at 9/11. If someone simply posted a picture of the events of 9/11 in the funny pictures thread, the implication of that would be that 9/11 was funny. The NYAN-ELEVEN picture is funny because of the jarring juxtoposition of themes, the cleverness of the title, and the shocking nature of the joke's source material.
Don't want to start an argument or anything, but I don't think that replacing "nine" with a vaguely similarly sounding word constitutes as cleverness. Also, the same jarring juxtaposition could be made by simply photoshopping Nyan Cat into gore, or making Nyan cat fly out of a persons private parts. Would those be allowed in the thread? That does fit all of your qualifications. Is it enough to just mask it with a shocking juxtaposition?
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On June 02 2012 20:43 Chargelot wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2012 19:40 AmericanUmlaut wrote:On June 02 2012 15:33 Probe1 wrote:
You can't decide what is and isn't offensive for other people. Obvious guidelines can be drawn (no gore, no NSFW content, no thinly veiled images to argue with other images and derail the thread) but what is tasteless and what is genuinely offensive is a line everyone must draw from themselves. Most importantly, if you find something to truly offend you, try sending a PM to the person that posted it explaining why you feel that way and asking them if they would remove it. If not, use a greasemonkey script to remove the picture or simply don't visit the thread. Welcome back, Probe! :-D Also, I think beetlisk is making a pretty huge logical mistake in accusing those of us who found the NYAN-ELEVEN picture funny of laughing at 9/11. Like I said in my original post in this thread, I found the jarring juxtaposition of the Nyan Cat and 9/11 funny, and I thought the pun was clever. Was it in bad taste? Of course. But it's not laughing at 9/11. If someone simply posted a picture of the events of 9/11 in the funny pictures thread, the implication of that would be that 9/11 was funny. The NYAN-ELEVEN picture is funny because of the jarring juxtoposition of themes, the cleverness of the title, and the shocking nature of the joke's source material. Don't want to start an argument or anything, but I don't think that replacing "nine" with a vaguely similarly sounding word constitutes as cleverness. Also, the same jarring juxtaposition could be made by simply photoshopping Nyan Cat into gore, or making Nyan cat fly out of a persons private parts. Would those be allowed in the thread? That does fit all of your qualifications. Is it enough to just mask it with a shocking juxtaposition?
I don't have qualifications, I just find some things funny. You're free to disagree and think that those things aren't funny. Nyan Cat photoshopped over a scene of gore doesn't sound terribly funny. Nyan Cat flying out of a person's private parts could be pretty funny, I think, depending on how it was done. Neither one should be posted in the Funny Pics thread, though, because there are rules against that.
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On June 02 2012 12:22 JingleHell wrote:
I suggest when you wake up, you re-write that without validating every single thing I've said about putting words in my mouth and ascribing reactions to me without any basis in reality.
Wat????? Jesus Christ and Holy Mary, quote that shit I was supposed to be doing because I have no idea what are you talking about. It's sounds like instead of replying to my last post you scrolled up and replied to my previous post.
What I can tell is you used only 1 ad hominem, which was the first post of yours, with the poll added, saying I had an ulterior motive behind this thread. Your other posts show misunderstanding at worst case.
Like the worst reaction I ascribed to you was saying "In every post in this thread you convinced me that you didn't care about 9/11 so I guess yeah, that's a response I couldn't even begin to understand. Which means you have nothing to confide."
I do wonder what are you supposed to be keeping to yourself.
Just as a hint, when I talk about SpecialEndrey, and you respond to that paragraph talking about Umlaut, it really provides stark evidence that you're reacting to an utterly inaccurate perception of what I said.
This is the sentence about SpecialEndrey: "The poster happens to be German, you happen to be Polish." end of sentence about SpecialEndrey.
The next sentence is "You compared the people behind 9/11 to Nazis, and you've compared making light of 9/11 to making light of concentration camps.". Holy fucking shit, you made me check my OP. Oh God. Nope, not a word about nazis nor concentration camps anywhere in my OP. I did write about nazizm and communism but in response to AmericanUmlaut.
What you are doing here is calling your made up lies "an utterly inaccurate perception" of what you said. I don't really know what to say more about it. Are you a troll?
So in your 4 lines post, 2 lines don't even address my last post to you and the other 2 are trying to cover lies, or whatever the reason is you said that I did something that in reality I didn't. I'm too tired to laugh about this because of the constant checking of our posts to give quotes and first of all, to understand what the hell do you mean.
My post was pretty long and you completely dodge majority of what I wrote in it. This is the debate you wanted?
On June 02 2012 15:33 Probe1 wrote:
You can't decide what is and isn't offensive for other people. Obvious guidelines can be drawn (no gore, no NSFW content, no thinly veiled images to argue with other images and derail the thread) but what is tasteless and what is genuinely offensive is a line everyone must draw from themselves. Most importantly, if you find something to truly offend you, try sending a PM to the person that posted it explaining why you feel that way and asking them if they would remove it. If not, use a greasemonkey script to remove the picture or simply don't visit the thread.
I don't try to decide what is and isn't offensive for other people, I say I'm offended enough to propose a different approach to the problem I see and I ask for views of other people to see if my proposal has any back up, because if it does not then there is no reason to change anything.
I can try to PM the poster of offending pic next time but I'm not convinced it would work and offending posts are very rare.
I don't know how greasemonkey is supposed to help me if I already saw the picture. The thread is too good in general to not visit it.
On June 02 2012 19:40 AmericanUmlaut wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2012 15:33 Probe1 wrote:
You can't decide what is and isn't offensive for other people. Obvious guidelines can be drawn (no gore, no NSFW content, no thinly veiled images to argue with other images and derail the thread) but what is tasteless and what is genuinely offensive is a line everyone must draw from themselves. Most importantly, if you find something to truly offend you, try sending a PM to the person that posted it explaining why you feel that way and asking them if they would remove it. If not, use a greasemonkey script to remove the picture or simply don't visit the thread. Welcome back, Probe! :-D Also, I think beetlisk is making a pretty huge logical mistake in accusing those of us who found the NYAN-ELEVEN picture funny of laughing at 9/11. Like I said in my original post in this thread, I found the jarring juxtaposition of the Nyan Cat and 9/11 funny, and I thought the pun was clever. Was it in bad taste? Of course. But it's not laughing at 9/11. If someone simply posted a picture of the events of 9/11 in the funny pictures thread, the implication of that would be that 9/11 was funny. The NYAN-ELEVEN picture is funny because of the jarring juxtoposition of themes, the cleverness of the title, and the shocking nature of the joke's source material.
OK you are right.
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There are already a rule (Unwritten rule but still.)about no blatantly offensive pictures in the sfw pic thread. some time ago, maybe a year, someone thought it would be funny to Photoshop a pro gamers head into a bucket of shit. (I think that was Painusers, but I don't remember). Now that person was banned and the picture removed. There was also this picture with breivik as braveheart (I think it was anyway, I'm not one for movies) who was banned as well. So yes there are some offensive materials that is banned. But as someone said, it is more about the time then anything. If someone made the Nyan-Eleven post a few days after nine-eleven it would have been different.
And with that said I don't think there are anything wrong with the moderating in the sfw pic thread. I think a lot of it is shit, but there are a few occasional gold nuggets that is worth the time to check the thread from time to time.
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Some of the most horrific tragic things in life, are generally made fun of. . . The dictator, making a wii game about Munich where you get to play the terrorists and in the end unlock a prize (exploding vest) after you kill the isreali team...
If you can't handle offensive pictures, then move along, one mans joke is another's misfortune and that goes for everything... The fact you're so offended is just adding to anything that happened that day, I can't recall the quote, but the second you are prepared to change your daily life/routine/personality and let things lke this affect your mood, is the day the terrorists win... So start enjoying life, and stop hating on others ingenuity... The people who died that day aren't coming back, so move on, life is process.
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