EPTPrefer writing battle reports anyway which is another option open to us.
Separate Tournament Live Reports From Discussion - Page 2
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On April 10 2012 06:09 TheToast wrote: Well one person can't watch four streams at once like MLG has. That's why I like the idea behind a community driven LR thread. Those ideas are necessarily mutually exclusive. Like I said, this thread is nothing new and has been discussed before in the staff forums - however we haven't come up with a good way to do this yet and/or found the time to fit this in amongst other projects. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
It's a nice idea in theory but who is really going to want to LR in his own little world instead of participating in the tournament discussion? Maybe someone has a fiery passion to contribute to the community in such a way, if so they could make a blog for it on a tournament day and direct people to it via a link in the OP of the " LR " thread? | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37121 Posts
On April 10 2012 16:04 Dodgin wrote: I think the biggest problem would be finding people willing to keep updating a thread that no one else is posting in, you lose the social aspect and it becomes a job where you're not getting paid. It's a nice idea in theory but who is really going to want to LR in his own little world instead of participating in the tournament discussion? Maybe someone has a fiery passion to contribute to the community in such a way, if so they could make a blog for it on a tournament day and direct people to it via a link in the OP of the " LR " thread? -__-;; Hi.... I'm SeeKeR..... | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
I don't understand your comment, when you LR it is in the main thread which is what we already have. I'm talking about if we want to separate it to make it easier to read for people who can't watch. The suggestion of TheToast unless I misunderstood would be one or maybe a few people in their own thread only posting there giving a LR, unless the thread gets flooded with people thanking the person for LRing It's going to feel very lonely. If that does happen then It's going to be hard to read the thread, defeating the purpose. | ||
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37121 Posts
On April 10 2012 16:13 Dodgin wrote: I don't understand your comment, when you LR it is in the main thread which is what we already have. I'm talking about if we want to separate it to make it easier to read for people who can't watch. The suggestion of TheToast unless I misunderstood would be one or maybe a few people in their own thread only posting there giving a LR, unless the thread gets flooded with people thanking the person for LRing It's going to feel very lonely. If that does happen then It's going to be hard to read the thread, defeating the purpose. Ohhhh..... now I understand this situation a bit better. Pretty much this is what Zvenn3n was doing about a 2 months ago. He would LR the Code S games in his blog and then I'd link it. I was under the impression that TheToast suggested two separate threads, one for general discussion and another for pure LRs EDIT: Btw, my first comment where I said hi was in response to this comment: It's a nice idea in theory but who is really going to want to LR in his own little world instead of participating in the tournament discussion? I was just implying that LRing and not participating in the discussion is something that I frequently do | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On April 10 2012 17:46 SeeKeR wrote: I was under the impression that TheToast suggested two separate threads, one for general discussion and another for pure LRs That would be correct. | ||
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Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
You could filter the posts from the people who LR in the thread. Of course it requires you to know who is LRing, but maybe the OP can link those filters? | ||
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Slardar
Canada7596 Posts
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
On April 10 2012 23:35 Zocat wrote: How about enabling the filter option from the Mafia subforum? You could filter the posts from the people who LR in the thread. Of course it requires you to know who is LRing, but maybe the OP can link those filters? I really like this idea. It allows people to still comment in the thread, and those who want the LRs only can just filter the guys who are LRing (and those an be announce beforehand) My only concern would be that a number of the LR guys also join in the discussion. But then again that's a lot better to read a few extra posts than filter through entire pages. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On April 11 2012 00:17 Hassybaby wrote: I really like this idea. It allows people to still comment in the thread, and those who want the LRs only can just filter the guys who are LRing (and those an be announce beforehand) My only concern would be that a number of the LR guys also join in the discussion. But then again that's a lot better to read a few extra posts than filter through entire pages. I think everyone can handle me screaming ravens every couple of posts. I second this idea | ||
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37121 Posts
So now we wait, and see what they have to say  | ||
Falling
Canada11607 Posts
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On April 11 2012 03:12 Falling wrote: I have no influence on TL website changes, but I think I like the filter idea better than two separate threads. What I don't like about the two threads idea is what exactly goes in the second thread? Without even the nominal purpose of live reporting it sounds like a giant garbage bag to collect all the rage, complaints, and irc type chat. How do you even moderate that except to lock it at the end of a tournament and throw it away? Ummm yeah I guess that is what it would be. I'll say again I do think there is a need for a place to express excitement about a match or cheer on Sheth. But a Live Report thread is not the place for that, it's general discussion and banter. Maybe it is better suited to IRC, but #TeamLiquid is usually a mess during MLGs. So I'm not sure where that leaves us. I have to say, I'm not a huge fan of the filter idea. I like the idea that someone is able to both live report and discuss a tournament. Going through 10 different filter to see whose LRing what match and whose still LRing versus who fell asleep seems tedious to me. And now you've essentially got separate, segregated conversations going on. At that point why not just create your own separate blog or IRC channel to LR the stuff yourself. The idea of an live report thread is that a number of people can contribute or help out and all the live reports are in one central location. So if I was looking for updates I just go to the last page in that thread. As opposed to going through 10 different filters. Either way, I hope the admins can find some time in their schedule to look into some of these ideas. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On April 11 2012 03:39 Drazerk wrote: I have tried blogs but generally people are still asking where the hell the live reports are days after how would it be any different if you had, for example, a tournament thread and a LR thread? people who cant find a clearly identified blog wont be able to find a clearly identified thread. | ||
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Falling
Canada11607 Posts
I think what I was thinking was little different from both- more of a group filter. I don't know how one would get on the filter, but assuming one had a system for signing up as a Live Reporter, then with the hit of one button, you could see just the posts of the 10 people LRing. | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On April 11 2012 03:49 Falling wrote: Well admittedly, I don't actually know how the mafia filter works although I assume it's rather like my mod filter. I think what I was thinking was little different from both- more of a group filter. I don't know how one would get on the filter, but assuming one had a system for signing up as a Live Reporter, then with the hit of one button, you could see just the posts of the 10 people LRing. Mafia filter just lists all of the posts from a single user in a specific thread. For example here's GMarshal's filter from the List of Mafia Games thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=174347&user=62033 I could see some type of group filter possibly working, though I don't know how difficult or easy that would be to code. | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On April 10 2012 01:14 PassiveAce wrote: I think TL should try and bring on Moonbear as staff and let him just edit his amazing LR'ing into the OP's. Seriously we miss you moonbear come back please! Ohai <3 I don't post in SC2 any more. But I still LR things like the LoL stuff, transcribe interviews and do the art for the threads. On April 11 2012 01:31 Drazerk wrote: I think everyone can handle me screaming ravens every couple of posts. I second this idea I also like the filter idea for two reasons. 1) You can get rid of users you don't want to see, and quickly condense the LR Thread down to the bare-bones. 2) My old LR style was to continuously quote yourself, so people who just joined in could see everything you've previously written. The problem with this is that after about 10 embedded quotes, not everything displays and the code bugs out. (Not sure if fixed?) That meant that I often had to go back at the end of games and clean out all the BBCode, which was a massive pain. Filtering would mean I wouldn't need to quote myself continuously and could focus on actually typing. I also once brought up the possibility of a Twitter-like thing that could be placed in the OP of threads, where the latest LR posts could be fetched in real time. But that's probably too technically demanding and not worth the resources required. | ||
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