EPTi say we wipe the forums clean, start from scratch.
id also like to see a limit to the amount one can post in a day/week/month like slow mode in iirc
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L.F.Haunt
United States47 Posts
i say we wipe the forums clean, start from scratch. id also like to see a limit to the amount one can post in a day/week/month like slow mode in iirc | ||
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elmizzt
United States3309 Posts
On April 07 2011 20:22 L.F.Haunt wrote: in order to change u need to go back to the basics. i say we wipe the forums clean, start from scratch. id also like to see a limit to the amount one can post in a day/week/month like slow mode in iirc Um, what? I honestly can't think of a single bonus to either of your proposals. Wanna explain your thought process a little more?  | ||
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Piledriver
United States1697 Posts
A few suggestions 1) Create a separate Balance Forum Let all balance/imbalance discussions be relegated to this cesspool. It will give trolls and whiners a place to vent their frustration, or for other people to get their daily dose of balance whines. However any mention of balance/imbalance in the other threads (and especially LR threads) should be awarded with an instant temp ban, and repeated violations resulting in a permanent ban/ip ban. 2) Include a minimum word count for posts in the strategy forum Especially for OPs, there needs to be a minimum word count for posts in the strategy forum. Atleast this way, we can prevent random people from creating posts with horrible content. Also it prevents people from discrediting good OPs with lame, 2 word posts. 3) Create a separate Newbie/Help Forum All Help-me threads should go to this forum. No more "How do I stop this 4 gate/6 pool/2 rax scv all in" in strategy forum. | ||
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L.F.Haunt
United States47 Posts
like day 9 says, if you restrict someones actions, those actions will be so much more creative. knowing that i can only have 3 post or whatever a day will make me put that much more effort into those 3 posts, and for the ppl that dont think like that, well atleast we only hear from them 3 times a day ( and possibly take away 1 or 2 posts from his daily postings). and obviously i would implement a hiearchy where minds that prove themselves worthy would beable to post more then others. or maybe even a lvling system where if you have XXXX post you can have 5 post a day etc. if you want an elitist forum you must favor the leet baptisims being reborn into a new culture in order to become a better person. season 2 a fresh new start, hopefully i get promoted, hopefully i well become a better player. with season 2 i now practice alot in customs carefully deciding when to ladder knowing that a descent player will have a 10/1 points to win ratio. if you believe that XX% of the ppl on here are talking nonsense then XX% of then post are nonsense and XX% of all threads are nonsense which makes XX% of TL nonsense. if you wipe everything you have 0% nonsense. as the frist couple of thread start to make there way up onto TL mod will immediately be able to pick out the good from the crap ~your comp has just been f***ed cuz u been watching to much pron. i guess its time to reinstall windows. let me save wats very important (not that much though cuz im poor and ill i got is a 2gb memory stick) and who cares about all the other crap. atleast my comp will be running like its almost brand new, and this time ill do my business elsewhere. keep my comp clean for as long as possible. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On April 07 2011 20:42 elmizzt wrote: Um, what? I honestly can't think of a single bonus to either of your proposals. Wanna explain your thought process a little more? Agreed, why limit posters? Some of us are just active and contributory! Wiping the forums cleans does nothing, doesn't prevent the problem, just gives it a slate to shit on! | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
On April 07 2011 20:45 Piledriver wrote: I think 0 tolerance policy is the way to go. I have been at the receiving end of a couple of warnings myself(mostly deserved ), and I think that the best way to ensure quality is to have 0 tolerance for nonsensical posts. I'm a big fan of the ElitistJerks forum model, and the discussions there are incredibly cerebral, and strictly moderated for poor quality posts. It is one of the few sites on the internet where you can click any link and not be disappointed at the overall quality of discussions. The zero tolerance problems have been raised already in this thread. There is just no way to be fair about it as the mods want to be as consistent as possible. As Milkis explains on the previous page + Show Spoiler + On April 06 2011 07:58 Milkis wrote: The thing about these policies is that you have to be really well defined on what you ban and what you do not ban. A lot of "bad" posts don't break any rules and they're quite harmless in nature -- they are simply just noise that clutters up the forum and the noise happens to have a lot of negative externalities when they reach a critical mass (I think i've mentioned that already). Once you start hammering those posts -- what are you going to do? You can't really ban for them, warning them seems harsh. One solution is to just silently delete the posts (and you can even count how many posts are deleted to see how often people are just noise and ban them if they're just mostly noise), but TL seems to have a policy against post deletion since they don't even delete the posts of people who get banned, so I'm sure that's out of the bag. Furthermore this also just increases the workload of the moderators since being zero tolerance just means you're reading through the posts a lot closer and given the size of TL it's lots and lots and lots of work. I've run these kinds of policies before where I even warned for people being ignorant or wrong (something I'm sure TL is quite against) and I spent like 5+ hours a day moderating at that point. It's a lot more work than you think it is because people will also complain and you have to just explain to them, etc. It's not a good long run policy since it's very abrasive. This is the reason why I prefer Rekul's suggestion (after you add onto it, of course) because it works a lot more subtly and it isn't abrasive at all. Reward positive behavior and filter out negative behavior -- just make it clear that bad posts get ignored and people won't even see it and we should all be fine. 1) Create a separate Balance Forum Let all balance/imbalance discussions be relegated to this cesspool. It will give trolls and whiners a place to vent their frustration, or for other people to get their daily dose of balance whines. However any mention of balance/imbalance in the other threads (and especially LR threads) should be awarded with an instant temp ban, and repeated violations resulting in a permanent ban/ip ban. I like the thinking behind this but to me this will just provide motivation for more balance whining. TL doesn't support balance whinges at all and this will just provide a place for people to push the rules. Perhaps instead of carrot (balance forum) and stick (instant temp ban) method, the purges that occur should be associated with longer bans. This give people time to sort out their posting as purges don't happen often but if you haven't improved by then you get a serious penalty. 2) Include a minimum word count for posts in the strategy forum Especially for OPs, there needs to be a minimum word count for posts in the strategy forum. Atleast this way, we can prevent random people from creating posts with horrible content. Also it prevents people from discrediting good OPs with lame, 2 word posts. I love this idea. Even if it makes stupid people just post longer stupid stuff at least it forces them to think of stupid stuff to say. I'm all for it. 3) Create a separate Newbie/Help Forum All Help-me threads should go to this forum. No more "How do I stop this 4 gate/6 pool/2 rax scv all in" in strategy forum. Yeah, I'm not sure about this one. I guess this is what the strategy forum is for but isn't often used properly. I'll reserve my thoughts for now. Thanks for the ideas. Cheers  | ||
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NEEDZMOAR
Sweden1277 Posts
sorry about the bump <.<.... | ||
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