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STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
March 03 2004 17:43 GMT
#1
i try to read and participate in the threads on this site at least 8 times a day but usually there are very few new posts to respond to.

i suggest we advertise on great sites like gamefaqs and sclegacy to try to get more participants, or maybe get a battle.net bot to spam on east.

perhaps a downloads section would help, too. we could put some map hacks and cracks.
Mydnyte
Profile Joined October 2003
3306 Posts
March 03 2004 18:57 GMT
#2
lol maphacks~
How about updating the replays section more.
STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
March 03 2004 19:15 GMT
#3
this site has some really good news/article posters and some good forum posters still drop by now and then. the coverage and explanation of the pro leagues is great on this site, and we try to share vods. hmz and good replays too, altho they are usually more for entertainment and novelty i think. so many ppl from this site quit bw, it troubles me.. what other english community is after this site? wgtour? ugh
ForgoTTeN-SupeR
Profile Joined March 2003
United States786 Posts
March 03 2004 22:45 GMT
#4
This site has enough idiots as it is, and by advertising on GameFAQs, SCLegacy, and East you hope to gain more quality topics? It will be newb fest even more so than now
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3168 Posts
March 04 2004 04:33 GMT
#5
yea most of the admins are not involved in bw anymore,they said they were going to expand the tl.net staff,but never did.

so i don't know.im sure the site would be more active with some fresh faces working at it,like that X)Benny guy is doing ;p
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
March 04 2004 04:44 GMT
#6
I wanna be admin~!
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
March 04 2004 05:50 GMT
#7
i wanna marry freez
ModeratorHi! I'm a .signature *virus*! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread!
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
March 04 2004 06:52 GMT
#8
Yeah I think getting some new staff who are more involved in bw would be refreshing
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
radiaL
Profile Joined August 2003
Andorra2690 Posts
March 04 2004 09:56 GMT
#9
or the current staff gets back into BW
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mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
March 04 2004 14:00 GMT
#10
stimey,

Thx for the comments. It's something we're in the process of dealing with. It's also definitely something I've been thinking about. A bit of patience and constructive input would be great. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
March 04 2004 14:46 GMT
#11
Stim, other english community for bw besides wgtour and tl.net? Revive broodwar.com and you'll develope a new love for these two sites.
X)Benny
Profile Joined October 2002
France1270 Posts
March 04 2004 15:50 GMT
#12
On March 04 2004 13:33 TranCe wrote:im sure the site would be more active with some fresh faces working at it,like that X)Benny guy is doing ;p

Thanks
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3168 Posts
March 04 2004 16:32 GMT
#13
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-03-04 17:41:31
March 04 2004 17:36 GMT
#14
i dunno what to say mensrea. there is good content and good content providers here and this seems to be the best english site, but its not being taken advantage of very much, instead of rallying around a community its kind of like a deserted island we are all stuck on

klogon i never meant to say this site should be like past newb sc sites, if thats what i said.

we have amazing ppl that come here like ilnp legion hovz rekrul nazgul drone mesrea waxangel benny and others i cant even remember all the names. they all spend time here and share their thoughts and analysis and have a good time, but the format seems to inspire, well, stagnation somehow.. not sure why. i never thought it was a good idea for a site to revolve around a news section, the way every major site has always tried to do. daily news is kewl but this site has things better than news, renewable resources like league analyses, strategic discussions including posts by good players that could have been archived, replays collections, links, etc. but most of the features being produce in this great site usually begin and end in some forum thread that dies only to be found if someone searches for it. there are many sections here but maybe some should be merged, removed, or moved, just maybe.. someday
GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-03-04 23:06:13
March 04 2004 23:05 GMT
#15
if there would be a RWA section here, and I could get upload permission, i would really provide a rwa once every four days at least

edit: i'm also more than willing to commentate the replay for any of the liquibitions involving T
DANCE ALL DAY
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
March 05 2004 02:48 GMT
#16
I think that if TeamLiquid.net was a little more involved in the community, it would become alot busier.

TL.net is pretty much a gathering place for BW players.. but we come here and we dont really do anything.

Maybe tl.net could organize a ladder or weekly tournaments or something. Anything to really get people coming here to participate.
It would take alot of work unfortunately, but I think something like that would breathe a new life into the forum
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
March 05 2004 03:16 GMT
#17
Lets have game tonight!~+_+
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3168 Posts
March 05 2004 03:18 GMT
#18
On March 05 2004 11:48 FakeSteve)307 wrote:
TL.net is pretty much a gathering place for BW players..

excellent observation steve
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
March 05 2004 03:36 GMT
#19
Thanks i try to be as amazing as possible.

And unfortunately FreeZ, i'm not going to be able to continue the friday night tournaments. I really enjoy them but I dont have time to schedule them
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
March 05 2004 03:47 GMT
#20
On March 05 2004 12:36 FakeSteve)307 wrote:
Thanks i try to be as amazing as possible.

And unfortunately FreeZ, i'm not going to be able to continue the friday night tournaments. I really enjoy them but I dont have time to schedule them


huk
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3168 Posts
March 05 2004 03:53 GMT
#21
don't worry freeze i'll host one,what time do you usually have them at?
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
March 05 2004 03:56 GMT
#22
On March 05 2004 12:53 TranCe wrote:
don't worry freeze i'll host one,what time do you usually have them at?


Kekek..we just can play some games in our usual "schedule"
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-03-05 03:58:56
March 05 2004 03:56 GMT
#23
nm
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3168 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-03-05 03:58:43
March 05 2004 03:57 GMT
#24
aye
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
radiaL
Profile Joined August 2003
Andorra2690 Posts
March 05 2004 03:59 GMT
#25
the website feedback's more active than other forums
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FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
March 05 2004 04:00 GMT
#26
Steve you should come too man...like in 3 hours?kekek
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
March 05 2004 04:01 GMT
#27
3 hours? probably not able but i'll definitely try
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
March 05 2004 04:01 GMT
#28
On March 05 2004 12:59 radiaL wrote:
the website feedback's more active than other forums


Could be a signal that something's amiss!
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3168 Posts
March 05 2004 04:04 GMT
#29
-.-
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
March 05 2004 04:08 GMT
#30
LOL
Meat
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands3751 Posts
March 05 2004 04:13 GMT
#31
yes i totally agree with this,
really need to make some changes with some stuff.

And people, plz stop spamming this topic.. suggestions are very welcome but you blow this topic up now.
Administrator
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
March 05 2004 04:18 GMT
#32
Yeah I agree that tl.net should host some tournaments weekly so ppl can meet and have some good games . This would bring more discussions and would make the site more active...and also, I think a public replay section would be a good idea;;;
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3168 Posts
March 05 2004 04:37 GMT
#33
I could take care of a weekly tournament thing no problem.

A public rep section would be iffy though.maybe if you had a rule where only forum regulars could use it,like 600+ posts or something then it would be a bit safer from junk being uploaded.

Definetly need something happening in the rep section department though,currently its pretty bad
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
March 05 2004 04:43 GMT
#34
I agree...and if you want to save web space..you can wiped out publics rep every two weeks or so +_+;
Meat
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands3751 Posts
March 05 2004 04:48 GMT
#35
Yah, i've thought about public rep section many times but the thing that hold me back is the memory of bw.com rep archive.
Administrator
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3168 Posts
March 05 2004 04:53 GMT
#36
*shudders*

just get a few dedictated liquidites to moderate,if it turns out bw.com'ish,remove it.But i really doubt it will,i think its obvious bw.com community was far worse than tl,you'll know what i mean if you've ever read the comment section or the forum there.
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-03-05 10:08:56
March 05 2004 09:58 GMT
#37
Meat I could probably do organization for a weekly tournament.

The only problem is drawing people in. If one of site mods introduced the tournament as a TeamLiquid event, there would be a better tournout. Would make the forum more active, definitely lift the cloud of boredom thats been lingering lately

You could do neat things for the winner, too. Like making a little symbol for the winner of the tourney to wear for the week, like the #1 Liquibet's happy guy with trophy.

What do you think?
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Meat
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands3751 Posts
March 05 2004 10:12 GMT
#38
On March 05 2004 18:58 FakeSteve)307 wrote:
Meat I could probably do organization for a weekly tournament.

The only problem is drawing people in. If one of site mods introduced the tournament as a TeamLiquid event, there would be a better tournout.

You could do neat things for the winner, too. Like making a little symbol for the winner of the tourney to wear for the week, like the #1 Liquibet's happy guy with trophy.

What do you think?

Well, personally i think weekly is way too much. Monthly is way better imo, or would you really want to spend every weekend MANY hours on running something? Really, when you run a tournament so many troubles turn up, like disconnects, hack accusations and much more. Also i think it would be better to keep it a bit special, that way some of the better players of the forums will also participate and not only the newbies.

How much experience do you have with running tournaments?
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
March 05 2004 10:19 GMT
#39
You're right about the monthly part that sounds much better.

I've been running the Friday Night Tournament for 6 weeks or so, but trance is doing this week's since i wasn't sure if I'd be there They're simple single elim 16-man tourneys, but they go smoothly and people have a great time

Running a tournament isn't really very hard.. You just have to keep track of things
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3168 Posts
March 05 2004 10:46 GMT
#40
Do both,have a monthly tournament for high profile players and have a casual gaming night every friday.
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3168 Posts
March 05 2004 10:47 GMT
#41
i'd be willing to run either,i've ran 2 32 player tournaments for rush-cosmo.pe.ky and a 64 player tournament for teamz7.com

so i can hold my own if tl needs help with it.
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
March 05 2004 10:47 GMT
#42
Yeah friday night tourney doesn't have to stop, but a TeamLiquid monthly tournament would bring new awesome to the website
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
March 05 2004 10:53 GMT
#43
i'm such a loser i should be running two tournies a week at least... i think ill try starting this week sometime after saturday
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
March 05 2004 12:52 GMT
#44
Stimey: I like your archive idea regarding comments by pros...

Grot: Excellent thought. RWAs seem very popular these days. I'll give it some thought. What's your MSN?

Trance/Steve: I like your ideas about a regular BW tournament. Would also provide opportunities for forumers engaging in flame wars to settle things through a duel on Neo FZ. We could make sure certain players get paired together.

Will give serious consideration to all of the above. Changes are a comin'.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
March 05 2004 13:03 GMT
#45
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
March 05 2004 14:39 GMT
#46
god mensrea just rox
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
March 05 2004 19:38 GMT
#47
On March 05 2004 21:52 mensrea wrote:
Would also provide opportunities for forumers engaging in flame wars to settle things through a duel on Neo FZ. We could make sure certain players get paired together.


An idea I suggested a few times before, it'd be interesting and might discourage some of the trashtalking. Of course both players would have to agree, or we'd have newbies trashtalking players just to get games with them.

If anything, it'd be fun to make reports about.. could potentially be even better than the Liquibition games.
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AutumnLight
Profile Joined July 2003
Ukraine2488 Posts
March 06 2004 03:55 GMT
#48
great ideas,mensrea
Pray for War.
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
March 06 2004 04:10 GMT
#49
Trance & fakesteve:

Which one of you guys want to run the ladder?
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3168 Posts
March 06 2004 04:19 GMT
#50
I'd love to.

wait,what ladder? ;p
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
March 06 2004 06:06 GMT
#51
I'd also love to, it would probably even be smoother as a joint effort between the two of us. Trance what do you think?

And yeah what ladder? I think you mean tournament
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
March 06 2004 08:28 GMT
#52
It's the mensrea revolution!
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
March 07 2004 12:26 GMT
#53
mensrea will it be me, trance, or me and trance organizing? Just so i know O_Oa
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
March 07 2004 14:50 GMT
#54
We're still working out the details, steve. We're working on so many things right now, so will let you know as soon as we know. Thx for your patience.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
March 07 2004 15:16 GMT
#55
ladder...sounds like fun
AUSSIESCUM
TeamLiquid eSTROgeneral #1 • RIP
X)Benny
Profile Joined October 2002
France1270 Posts
March 07 2004 15:43 GMT
#56
A ladder is to much to take care of, plus it would just divide the community between TL and WGT.
A casual tournement once a week looks a lot better.
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
March 07 2004 16:17 GMT
#57
Sorry, I meant tournament. XBenny's right about a ladder (at least for not...).
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
March 07 2004 17:07 GMT
#58
you could have a very slooow running liquid league, taking all the people who are willing to play now and then (hence "sloooow") and formatting it into a copycat league format as an excuse to post more reps much like liquibition

it would work like liquibition and probably wouldnt post many more reps than it already does, but it could add some fun because of the league format and ultimately after a few years there could be a champion
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
March 08 2004 02:13 GMT
#59
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
March 08 2004 03:32 GMT
#60
But, make that tournament at a time that European players can play in it too. I suggest like 4 PM EST (10 PM CET). That wouldn't pose a problem to you American people I reckon, as most school days are done at 4 PM (unless I'm mistaken because I'm pretty ignorant on that subject :p).

Please do, so I (and maybe other, skilled Europeans) can enter it to.
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z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3168 Posts
March 08 2004 03:46 GMT
#61
Have 2 tournaments,one for the europeans,one for the north americans,yes?

I like the concept of friday 'night' tournaments,so i'd rather not move it to the afternoon.
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
March 08 2004 04:54 GMT
#62
Hmm 2 tournaments should be ok I suppose.

About half of the people on this forum is American/Canadian and the other half is European, oh and you have 2% Asian I guess :p
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SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
March 08 2004 13:02 GMT
#63
and 1 australian
AUSSIESCUM
TeamLiquid eSTROgeneral #1 • RIP
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
March 08 2004 14:07 GMT
#64
Which gives us a whopping 103%
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
March 08 2004 14:09 GMT
#65
On March 08 2004 12:32 Neminski wrote:
But, make that tournament at a time that European players can play in it too. I suggest like 4 PM EST (10 PM CET). That wouldn't pose a problem to you American people I reckon, as most school days are done at 4 PM (unless I'm mistaken because I'm pretty ignorant on that subject :p).

Please do, so I (and maybe other, skilled Europeans) can enter it to.

Which leaves all the people on the West Coast in school, staring the the clock.
Taguchi
Profile Joined February 2003
Greece1575 Posts
March 08 2004 14:27 GMT
#66
2 tournaments seems better, hope I get a chance to play
Great minds might think alike, but fastest hands rule the day~
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-03-08 18:30:39
March 08 2004 18:30 GMT
#67
On March 08 2004 23:27 Taguchi wrote:
2 tournaments seems better, hope I get a chance to play

i hope i get a chance to play in 2 tournaments
AUSSIESCUM
TeamLiquid eSTROgeneral #1 • RIP
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
March 10 2004 03:59 GMT
#68
On March 08 2004 23:09 Klogon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2004 12:32 Neminski wrote:
But, make that tournament at a time that European players can play in it too. I suggest like 4 PM EST (10 PM CET). That wouldn't pose a problem to you American people I reckon, as most school days are done at 4 PM (unless I'm mistaken because I'm pretty ignorant on that subject :p).

Please do, so I (and maybe other, skilled Europeans) can enter it to.

Which leaves all the people on the West Coast in school, staring the the clock.


fuck those fuckers

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Mydnyte
Profile Joined October 2003
3306 Posts
May 15 2004 09:42 GMT
#69
Yeah this site is so stagnant, it needs more activity.
And by activity I mean, more people posting.

It's basically the same people still posting here, and if there were more people posting here, there's much more to respond to.

And hopefully, the newer 'generation' of TL posters won't be on the common grounds as idiots, and actually post cool stuff (as in stuff I don't have to yawn in - having seen it like 20 times on TL already).

Advertising the site does seem kind of weak, because then I'm sure it would be just suckers coming here to post idiotic stuff, then we'd need more admins to ban them off.

I was just thinking it would be better if we did some advertising by word of mouth? I've told a few people to post here, and when they did, they said they didn't really like it, and some thought it was cool, and still post here.

All interests.
STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
May 15 2004 11:53 GMT
#70
i guess there just arent enough good ppl who are willing to spend time on a forum like this. the best posters are too busy to post frequently, and that's just that. i can only wish the better posters have less and less of their time wasted somehow. there are way too many bad posts now, which is why i want to squelch :/ but hey, im not a good poster either.

so mydnyte i just am not sure we can

I. increase the amount of good posters
II. increase the activity of the good posters

nor is it feasable to

III. decrease the activity of the bad posters

sure, i'll do my part to not make so many useless comments, but i dont think it will be enough. a few ppl in this respect are way too enthusiastic about ruining threads so carelessly with their smiles and general cuteness and fervent defense of c6-level advice
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
May 15 2004 14:15 GMT
#71
or start an "ask rekrul forum"
why so 진지해?
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
May 15 2004 15:46 GMT
#72
Stimey your useless comments are usually pretty funny.
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Meat
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands3751 Posts
May 15 2004 21:00 GMT
#73
i actually dont have much idea how much newcomers post, but i do know we got much more visitors in a half year. Half year ago we were around 2500 unique people daily, now we are between 3500 and 4000. I think i will write something to see how much the new visitors post, if that turns out to be very low we have to think about what the problem could be.

Of course people that visit this site and don't post (much) are welcome to say why.
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