2) What race do you play? It looks like you play zerg. Zerg is currently the hardest race to play from my random perspective.
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
2) What race do you play? It looks like you play zerg. Zerg is currently the hardest race to play from my random perspective. | ||
Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
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Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
There's a totally different atmosphere when playing a High diamond player as opposed to...basically everyone else lol, that's how big the skill differential is. A High diamond player will get in your face, and just stay there making you feel uncomfortable, that's the sort of feeling you'd get from playing legitimate High diamond player. I say legitimate because even some 500+ point diamond players are pretty bad, despite what their rating says. They're only able to sustain that rating because they win the games they get matched up against gold and plat players. Playing against a gold or a plat player is very easy for a good Diamond player. I play Zerg so there's always some sort of early-mid game push to watch out for. The thing I notice is that Diamond players try really hard to keep all their units alive, look for holes in my defense, and deal as much damage as possible for as long as possible. Everyone else kind of just moves in and hopes for the best... | ||
ashaman771
Canada114 Posts
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hefty
Denmark555 Posts
[B]At least my friend is like that :D and walls off his ramp first thing he does, with only depots. 3 or 4. Then he feels safe to build a rax. Oh and he makes a refinery somewhere in the middle too :D Lol, please help the poor man! | ||
infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
On August 09 2010 21:39 leveller wrote: THe problem with them is that they dont realize that they should mine more and spend more, leaving them behind on two fronts. They have 1000 in the bank, AND only 15 workers... Instead, they think too strategy like... Oh he is getting mutas. let me get a stargate! Nope, its too late buddy, your 1 phoenix isnt gonna cut it. At least my friend is like that :D and walls off his ramp first thing he does, with only depots. 3 or 4. Then he feels safe to build a rax. Oh and he makes a refinery somewhere in the middle too :D Haha a friend of mine did the EXACT same thing on scrap station. I taught him how to play that day and he was winning games on plat without my help Also, plenty of people at 500~600 diamond can't even make workers constantly so just work on your macro & scouting and you'll be flying through the ranks. | ||
SpaceJam
United States116 Posts
I thought I had it all figured out, boy was I wrong. :p | ||
zeb_us
United States4 Posts
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Meldrath
United States620 Posts
On August 09 2010 20:59 Warent wrote: You are allowed to correct me if I'm wrong, but if your biggest issues are with cheese, you should probably work on your scouting, If you by cheese mean unortodox and unexpected strategies such as proxies, 7pools etc (sometimes cheese is defined as a strategy that would only work unless it is scouted), better scouting should probably increase your win precentage a bit. Im giving an example not saying I cheesed my way to platinum, Im in diamond now anyways | ||
Piy
Scotland3152 Posts
Anyone not in Diamond is awful by competitive standards. | ||
georgir
Bulgaria253 Posts
I placed platinum and got to diamond easily, just with simple all-in/rush strategies. Mass zealots, fast lings like 11 pool, reapers. Basically, I aim to win early. I got no clue how to play the game when it starts to drag out. I move around diamond 200-300 points for now. | ||
aznhockeyboy16
United States558 Posts
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arthur
United Kingdom488 Posts
On August 09 2010 20:54 Suspense wrote: I'm silver and my apm is 50-75 on average.. I do a little spam clicking it the beginning but not much... Not like it really matters that much... APM means nothing, as a whole, but in general, when the crunch comes, you need 150+ (guess number) to handle well during battles (as in you need to micro/macro at the same time during a battle, if 40APM is all you can handle you'll never make it far). | ||
kentonator
Vatican City State95 Posts
A lot of times if you can hold off their 1 early push, you can win the game. This can be as simple as walling off or putting down a bunker to stop the push. | ||
PulseSUI
Switzerland305 Posts
you have people that screwed up there placement matches because they thought it would be a good idea to play them drunk at 4 in the morning.. and got put in to bronze/silver. you have people that screwed up there placements on purpose so they could try and farm easy victorys to pad there W/L ratio when they get promoted but are now stuck in silver/bronze even thought they have 75%+ win rate. also: as a bronze/silver/gold level player, you will be matched up against people that do there placement matches over and over again, there are VOD on youtube where TLO and other top tier players got matched up against bronze players while they did there placements, resulting in hilarious matches with mothership rushes and such. the lower level leagues are currently utter chaos in terms of skill levels. | ||
Koszul
United Kingdom1 Post
- get your command groups sorted. I you think it is hard to remember and execute all after 4th then this is something to work on. - learn the hotkeys. Nothing waste time more than clicking all the icons - command group your buildings and produce army while attacking - use your PC equipment. I wonder how many players having 5+ btn mouse use only 2 of them Assign even bloody backspace somewhere. It will help | ||
Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
On August 09 2010 22:13 aznhockeyboy16 wrote: basically everyone below high platinum would have been D or lower on ICCUP. those who stagnate around 400 are probably about D+/C- level. and I can't say the skill of people higher than that, because I'm around 400-500, but probably 900 and up is like B/B+. This is true to a point but I also feel that SC2 requires a slightly different skillset to BW, at least at the moment. For example playing Terran in BW was like a blur for me. I spent so much time looking at my 10raxes and spamming them to make more units. Looking at your units was a luxury. Whilst now I feel I can play SC2 and basically never have to look at my base. I think it's true that multi-tasking isn't as important as game sense and decision making right now. Anyone who played a lot of BroodWar has a big step up in this department. We already know when you should attack/defend/expand/scout etc... | ||
RawrAnOcean
United States359 Posts
Most platinum and gold players seem to be new rts or players trying to get good following strict build orders and strats. Usually these guy accelerate at a couple things but lack other important aspects. They can follow a build really well, but macro slacks after the build is complete aka most protoss 4 gaters in these leagues. <400 diamond just seem to be gatekeepers of the higher platinum players, but really not much better. 500 and higher actually know timings and know how to play the game decently well. My buddy got 400 diamond and still can't stop a 4 gate whenever we 1v1. | ||
Keldrath
United States449 Posts
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Calidus
150 Posts
On August 09 2010 22:17 arthur wrote: APM means nothing, as a whole, but in general, when the crunch comes, you need 150+ (guess number) to handle well during battles (as in you need to micro/macro at the same time during a battle, if 40APM is all you can handle you'll never make it far). ^this apm spikes wins games i am ~450 plat and i have only seen 1 cheese in my last ~20 games(mass zealot lol). I am not going to lie if i had to go back and play in silver and gold where every other match was a cheese i might go crazy. I can sum up 90% of loses as games where i go brain dead for 1-2 min and stop macroing or i don't push when i should. | ||
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