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On September 29 2020 07:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2020 07:51 GlowingBear wrote:On September 29 2020 07:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: how about you find somethibng that actually makes me mafia instead of saying it's weird that i started scumreading you at THAT time? Rayn, I find very hard to believe you would scumread me so hard based on the feeling that I maybe lying. Now you add the fact that myself and Damdred probably were going on the right direction and you've now misguided the thread to throw suspicions on a townie based on the belief I'm lying without considering I could be telling the truth. And regardless if I am telling the truth or not, this is not so alignment indicative that you wouldn't be trying to see me coming from another POV. This feels like inquisition and not a debate. For example: what do you think of ruXXar's alignment? I have a question. If you believed i was lying about something, let's say about the QT post, would you believe it "hard" or "soft"? Other things are you just saying i am mafia without saying i am mafia... you are blaming me for you and damdred going to a right direction, for me being wrong, but that would make me mafia right? Instead you ask if i think youre mafia or not. mhm... Nice politician, you would make a good one i agree. I think ruxxar is town as i have clearly said already if you read my posts.
I would state it as an intuition, as I've stated my suspicions on Damdred was, and I would keep trying to uncover more information while still debating. I don't feel you're open to the possibility I am town here, and that's why I believe you're most likely mafia.
I've read your posts, every single one of them, but I don't remember you're saying you think ruxxar is town. It's not that I will rememebr everything that everyone has posts lol. But now that you said he is town, why is he town?
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On September 29 2020 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2020 07:56 GlowingBear wrote:On September 29 2020 07:53 CopCake wrote:On September 29 2020 07:37 GlowingBear wrote:On September 29 2020 07:35 Dadred wrote: Donruxx and rayn make sense with their interactions though? Idk ruxx isnt acting like mafia I find it opportunistic that rayn started scumreading me when we were organizing ourselves in a very sensible PoE. ruXXar had a forced opening, kinda white knighted me while not really reading the game, it's just him not bringing information to the table IMO. So you were trying to organize town when rayn wasn't around? I agree that Ruxxar is odd but I don't understand the "organizing" part because I don't see you organizing anything. Damdred made a PoE list, I've agreed, we were going in that direction. Rayn came and said I'm mafia because I'm lying, now thread is going to that direction. I believe that when you debate with who you think is townie and start creating a PoE list, we are organizing ourselves. Bouncing reads etc. Now the thread is just "WHY DID YOU POST THIS GB" or things that doesn't make me mafia. how about you explain why did you post those thing then? from town perspective?
Because those were things that came to my mind and I just wrote in the thread so I could debate with people lol
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rayn makes a better case gb says "no" (no case)
people should believe gb? you know this is not how mafia works. even i fucking believe you if you make a fucking decent case for yourself but all you have had to say is "booohooo rayn is accusing me"
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again all you said is rayn is accusing me. no.
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On September 29 2020 06:40 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2020 06:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 29 2020 06:35 CopCake wrote:On September 29 2020 06:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:I am trying to see this as townie/townie but I find it hard with how hard you changed your mind with not questioning (Rayn questioned Dadred even after the set up thing). how would that be different from T/M? I don't understand the T/M you are asking. I believe more that you are town than GB at the moment and I am trying to put a perspective with town GB (I was sure he was mafia last game so I am trying to make the same mistake here) but it was hard for me to see him town until he posted he did it for reactions. So far to me it is like: 1.- I am mafia GB and I don't know the set up, I don't think Dadred is the real cop so I start to fish reactions. 2.- I am mafia GB and I know the set up, I can assume or not assume that Dadred is the real cop so I start to fish reactions still. 3.- I am town GB and I am not sure if Dadred is the real cop yet I start to play to see reactions and engage conversation. Then the clear set up comes 1.- I am mafia GB and I really didn't know the set up so my tone is genuine. 2.- I am mafia GB and I knew the set up so I have to act. 3.- I am town GB and I didn't know the set up, fuck. how would town vs mafia be different of town vs town? It is not different but when you posted you were supposed to be mafia together in the previous pm and used that info makes me think it is hard you are mafia/mafia and at least not mafia together in case one of you has to be mafia.
This was the whole process GB, the thing you quoted was before, not the emoji but the post inside there.
I don't know how many times I have to explain that your change of attitude with Damred looks sketchy and I wrote scenarios of mafia "knowing and not knowing the set up"
You are here saying that rayn is being "opportunistic", where has he been opportunistic?
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I mean:
On September 29 2020 07:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2020 06:54 GlowingBear wrote:On September 29 2020 06:33 ruXxar wrote:On September 29 2020 06:30 GlowingBear wrote:On September 29 2020 06:29 ruXxar wrote:On September 29 2020 06:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: MYLO D1. With most likely the cop dead N0. What makes you say that? The setup makes it D1 mylo basically But we lynch during the day right? Yes. On September 29 2020 06:35 CopCake wrote:On September 29 2020 06:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:I am trying to see this as townie/townie but I find it hard with how hard you changed your mind with not questioning (Rayn questioned Dadred even after the set up thing). how would that be different from T/M? I don't understand the T/M you are asking. I believe more that you are town than GB at the moment and I am trying to put a perspective with town GB (I was sure he was mafia last game so I am trying to make the same mistake here) but it was hard for me to see him town until he posted he did it for reactions. So far to me it is like: 1.- I am mafia GB and I don't know the set up, I don't think Dadred is the real cop so I start to fish reactions. 2.- I am mafia GB and I know the set up, I can assume or not assume that Dadred is the real cop so I start to fish reactions still. 3.- I am town GB and I am not sure if Dadred is the real cop yet I start to play to see reactions and engage conversation. Then the clear set up comes 1.- I am mafia GB and I really didn't know the set up so my tone is genuine. 2.- I am mafia GB and I knew the set up so I have to act. 3.- I am town GB and I didn't know the set up, fuck. I STILL don't understand why both me and rayn can't be town together. why dont you +1 my post 25 mins ago and make this one instead?
Why is this relevant? What if I just glossed over what you've said, what if I was just immediately reacting to what she said while keeping up with the thread? It's irrelevant.
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On September 29 2020 07:59 GlowingBear wrote: I've read your posts, every single one of them, but I don't remember you're saying you think ruxxar is town. It's not that I will rememebr everything that everyone has posts lol. But now that you said he is town, why is he town?
On September 29 2020 06:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well okay ruxxar goes to town pile with 90% of losing the game for town if he doesnt get his shit together. i dont "now" say he is town, i have said it before. And because he is stupid, and doesnt know what's going on, and he is fucking doing everything town should not do ever as he always does when he is town. because he is bad as fuck..
thats why.
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On September 29 2020 07:56 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2020 07:53 CopCake wrote:On September 29 2020 07:37 GlowingBear wrote:On September 29 2020 07:35 Dadred wrote: Donruxx and rayn make sense with their interactions though? Idk ruxx isnt acting like mafia I find it opportunistic that rayn started scumreading me when we were organizing ourselves in a very sensible PoE. ruXXar had a forced opening, kinda white knighted me while not really reading the game, it's just him not bringing information to the table IMO. So you were trying to organize town when rayn wasn't around? I agree that Ruxxar is odd but I don't understand the "organizing" part because I don't see you organizing anything. Damdred made a PoE list, I've agreed, we were going in that direction. Rayn came and said I'm mafia because I'm lying, now thread is going to that direction. I believe that when you debate with who you think is townie and start creating a PoE list, we are organizing ourselves. Bouncing reads etc. Now the thread is just "WHY DID YOU POST THIS GB" or things that doesn't make me mafia.
But isn't questioning things a town trait? Why does that make Rayn mafia?
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On September 29 2020 08:01 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2020 06:40 CopCake wrote:On September 29 2020 06:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 29 2020 06:35 CopCake wrote:On September 29 2020 06:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:I am trying to see this as townie/townie but I find it hard with how hard you changed your mind with not questioning (Rayn questioned Dadred even after the set up thing). how would that be different from T/M? I don't understand the T/M you are asking. I believe more that you are town than GB at the moment and I am trying to put a perspective with town GB (I was sure he was mafia last game so I am trying to make the same mistake here) but it was hard for me to see him town until he posted he did it for reactions. So far to me it is like: 1.- I am mafia GB and I don't know the set up, I don't think Dadred is the real cop so I start to fish reactions. 2.- I am mafia GB and I know the set up, I can assume or not assume that Dadred is the real cop so I start to fish reactions still. 3.- I am town GB and I am not sure if Dadred is the real cop yet I start to play to see reactions and engage conversation. Then the clear set up comes 1.- I am mafia GB and I really didn't know the set up so my tone is genuine. 2.- I am mafia GB and I knew the set up so I have to act. 3.- I am town GB and I didn't know the set up, fuck. how would town vs mafia be different of town vs town? It is not different but when you posted you were supposed to be mafia together in the previous pm and used that info makes me think it is hard you are mafia/mafia and at least not mafia together in case one of you has to be mafia. This was the whole process GB, the thing you quoted was before, not the emoji but the post inside there. I don't know how many times I have to explain that your change of attitude with Damred looks sketchy and I wrote scenarios of mafia "knowing and not knowing the set up" You are here saying that rayn is being "opportunistic", where has he been opportunistic?
I don't know if I'm missing something, I'm sorry, but I still don't understand why can't myself and rayn be town together. I understand why I can be mafia under your perspective, but I can't understand how that implicates rayn.
The timing of his accusations led me believe that he was trying to divert town to the wrong direction calling me mafia.
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On September 29 2020 08:03 GlowingBear wrote:I mean: Show nested quote +On September 29 2020 07:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 29 2020 06:54 GlowingBear wrote:On September 29 2020 06:33 ruXxar wrote:On September 29 2020 06:30 GlowingBear wrote:On September 29 2020 06:29 ruXxar wrote:On September 29 2020 06:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: MYLO D1. With most likely the cop dead N0. What makes you say that? The setup makes it D1 mylo basically But we lynch during the day right? Yes. On September 29 2020 06:35 CopCake wrote:On September 29 2020 06:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:I am trying to see this as townie/townie but I find it hard with how hard you changed your mind with not questioning (Rayn questioned Dadred even after the set up thing). how would that be different from T/M? I don't understand the T/M you are asking. I believe more that you are town than GB at the moment and I am trying to put a perspective with town GB (I was sure he was mafia last game so I am trying to make the same mistake here) but it was hard for me to see him town until he posted he did it for reactions. So far to me it is like: 1.- I am mafia GB and I don't know the set up, I don't think Dadred is the real cop so I start to fish reactions. 2.- I am mafia GB and I know the set up, I can assume or not assume that Dadred is the real cop so I start to fish reactions still. 3.- I am town GB and I am not sure if Dadred is the real cop yet I start to play to see reactions and engage conversation. Then the clear set up comes 1.- I am mafia GB and I really didn't know the set up so my tone is genuine. 2.- I am mafia GB and I knew the set up so I have to act. 3.- I am town GB and I didn't know the set up, fuck. I STILL don't understand why both me and rayn can't be town together. why dont you +1 my post 25 mins ago and make this one instead? Why is this relevant? What if I just glossed over what you've said, what if I was just immediately reacting to what she said while keeping up with the thread? It's irrelevant. you immediately reacted to what she said when my post is almost next to it, that one you glossed over? okay.
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On September 29 2020 08:05 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2020 08:01 CopCake wrote:On September 29 2020 06:40 CopCake wrote:On September 29 2020 06:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 29 2020 06:35 CopCake wrote:On September 29 2020 06:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:I am trying to see this as townie/townie but I find it hard with how hard you changed your mind with not questioning (Rayn questioned Dadred even after the set up thing). how would that be different from T/M? I don't understand the T/M you are asking. I believe more that you are town than GB at the moment and I am trying to put a perspective with town GB (I was sure he was mafia last game so I am trying to make the same mistake here) but it was hard for me to see him town until he posted he did it for reactions. So far to me it is like: 1.- I am mafia GB and I don't know the set up, I don't think Dadred is the real cop so I start to fish reactions. 2.- I am mafia GB and I know the set up, I can assume or not assume that Dadred is the real cop so I start to fish reactions still. 3.- I am town GB and I am not sure if Dadred is the real cop yet I start to play to see reactions and engage conversation. Then the clear set up comes 1.- I am mafia GB and I really didn't know the set up so my tone is genuine. 2.- I am mafia GB and I knew the set up so I have to act. 3.- I am town GB and I didn't know the set up, fuck. how would town vs mafia be different of town vs town? It is not different but when you posted you were supposed to be mafia together in the previous pm and used that info makes me think it is hard you are mafia/mafia and at least not mafia together in case one of you has to be mafia. This was the whole process GB, the thing you quoted was before, not the emoji but the post inside there. I don't know how many times I have to explain that your change of attitude with Damred looks sketchy and I wrote scenarios of mafia "knowing and not knowing the set up" You are here saying that rayn is being "opportunistic", where has he been opportunistic? I don't know if I'm missing something, I'm sorry, but I still don't understand why can't myself and rayn be town together. I understand why I can be mafia under your perspective, but I can't understand how that implicates rayn. The timing of his accusations led me believe that he was trying to divert town to the wrong direction calling me mafia. why dont you just call her mafia for that?
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do you need my approval or what?
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On September 29 2020 08:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: rayn makes a better case gb says "no" (no case)
people should believe gb? you know this is not how mafia works. even i fucking believe you if you make a fucking decent case for yourself but all you have had to say is "booohooo rayn is accusing me"
That's not what I'm saying?
I'm saying your approach is inquisitive instead of being someone who is uncertain about my alignment. It makes it sound like you want me to be mafia instead of you really believe I am mafia.
What's your case on me, rayn? Your case is that I'm lying?
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i have posted my case, good night.
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On September 29 2020 08:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2020 08:05 GlowingBear wrote:On September 29 2020 08:01 CopCake wrote:On September 29 2020 06:40 CopCake wrote:On September 29 2020 06:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 29 2020 06:35 CopCake wrote:On September 29 2020 06:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:I am trying to see this as townie/townie but I find it hard with how hard you changed your mind with not questioning (Rayn questioned Dadred even after the set up thing). how would that be different from T/M? I don't understand the T/M you are asking. I believe more that you are town than GB at the moment and I am trying to put a perspective with town GB (I was sure he was mafia last game so I am trying to make the same mistake here) but it was hard for me to see him town until he posted he did it for reactions. So far to me it is like: 1.- I am mafia GB and I don't know the set up, I don't think Dadred is the real cop so I start to fish reactions. 2.- I am mafia GB and I know the set up, I can assume or not assume that Dadred is the real cop so I start to fish reactions still. 3.- I am town GB and I am not sure if Dadred is the real cop yet I start to play to see reactions and engage conversation. Then the clear set up comes 1.- I am mafia GB and I really didn't know the set up so my tone is genuine. 2.- I am mafia GB and I knew the set up so I have to act. 3.- I am town GB and I didn't know the set up, fuck. how would town vs mafia be different of town vs town? It is not different but when you posted you were supposed to be mafia together in the previous pm and used that info makes me think it is hard you are mafia/mafia and at least not mafia together in case one of you has to be mafia. This was the whole process GB, the thing you quoted was before, not the emoji but the post inside there. I don't know how many times I have to explain that your change of attitude with Damred looks sketchy and I wrote scenarios of mafia "knowing and not knowing the set up" You are here saying that rayn is being "opportunistic", where has he been opportunistic? I don't know if I'm missing something, I'm sorry, but I still don't understand why can't myself and rayn be town together. I understand why I can be mafia under your perspective, but I can't understand how that implicates rayn. The timing of his accusations led me believe that he was trying to divert town to the wrong direction calling me mafia. why dont you just call her mafia for that?
Because I don't know if she's mafia? I don't feel she is mafia and I'm trying to understand her thought process.
Why do I have to call her mafia and why is that relevant for you?
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On September 29 2020 08:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: i have posted my case, good night.
HAHAHAHA Sure, the "GB is a liar" case.
You wouldn't be doing this if you were town. You would be trying to see myself coming from other perspectives. You're mafia.
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why are you asking stupid questions?
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fine i guess you think i am mafia then, we'll see.
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Also, your reasons to town pass ruxxar are the shittiest. Him being anti-town makes him town? And you're okay with that?
Uh-huh.
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On September 29 2020 08:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: why are you asking stupid questions?
Why aren't you answering them?
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