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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 28 2020 22:32 GMT
#241
On September 29 2020 07:09 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2020 06:10 CopCake wrote:
I don't understand the whole "I knew or not knew the set up" clears me deal with GB.

He can easily be lying and knew Dadred was the cop, knowing the set up, etc and yet still post he is surprised about it when Shockey posted the real set up, at least last game I remember Dadred said he likes to fish for reactions so GB probably felt the need to post that he is surprised specially because sooner or later we would realize that Rayn and Him were the ones discussing the changes of the game.

So pretty much one of GB and Rayn is mafia more likely and I am more inclined to think it is GB.



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Am I getting it right?:
GB and Rayn both discussed setups, so their reaction to a claim should be similar
Their reaction are different
Therefore, they must have different alignments.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 28 2020 22:33 GMT
#242
On September 29 2020 07:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2020 07:09 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 29 2020 07:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
whoever is town here can you please START by reading the thread ok?


I did, now either damdred dies tonight or he's possibly mafia.

yes, then you no-lynch.
GB is mafia.
other one is Monadel or Damdred.
you figure it out.

or Damdred dies, and then easy game.


I'm not mafia and all you have to call me mafia is "I think GB is mafia"
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 28 2020 22:35 GMT
#243
On September 29 2020 07:30 Dadred wrote:
Who's scum gb


More likely Ruxxar and Rayn, we have to hear from Monadel.
I think Shockey is town.
I think Copcake could be town
I think you're town regardless of the claim.

So, yeah. Basically PoE.
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Dadred
Profile Joined August 2020
249 Posts
September 28 2020 22:35 GMT
#244
GB talk to me who is scum?
Dadred
Profile Joined August 2020
249 Posts
September 28 2020 22:35 GMT
#245
Donruxx and rayn make sense with their interactions though? Idk ruxx isnt acting like mafia
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 28 2020 22:36 GMT
#246
On September 29 2020 07:33 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2020 07:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 29 2020 07:09 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 29 2020 07:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
whoever is town here can you please START by reading the thread ok?


I did, now either damdred dies tonight or he's possibly mafia.

yes, then you no-lynch.
GB is mafia.
other one is Monadel or Damdred.
you figure it out.

or Damdred dies, and then easy game.


I'm not mafia and all you have to call me mafia is "I think GB is mafia"


I worded this very poory. I meant to say:
"I'm not mafia. Your reasons to believe I am mafia are just the feelings that I may be lying, which doesn't make me mafia".
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 28 2020 22:37 GMT
#247
On September 29 2020 07:35 Dadred wrote:
Donruxx and rayn make sense with their interactions though? Idk ruxx isnt acting like mafia


I find it opportunistic that rayn started scumreading me when we were organizing ourselves in a very sensible PoE.
ruXXar had a forced opening, kinda white knighted me while not really reading the game, it's just him not bringing information to the table IMO.
I'm adorable.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 28 2020 22:46 GMT
#248
how about you find somethibng that actually makes me mafia instead of saying it's weird that i started scumreading you at THAT time?
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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
September 28 2020 22:47 GMT
#249
On September 29 2020 07:32 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2020 07:09 CopCake wrote:
On September 29 2020 06:10 CopCake wrote:
I don't understand the whole "I knew or not knew the set up" clears me deal with GB.

He can easily be lying and knew Dadred was the cop, knowing the set up, etc and yet still post he is surprised about it when Shockey posted the real set up, at least last game I remember Dadred said he likes to fish for reactions so GB probably felt the need to post that he is surprised specially because sooner or later we would realize that Rayn and Him were the ones discussing the changes of the game.

So pretty much one of GB and Rayn is mafia more likely and I am more inclined to think it is GB.



[image loading]



Am I getting it right?:
GB and Rayn both discussed setups, so their reaction to a claim should be similar
Their reaction are different
Therefore, they must have different alignments.


No, the emoji is an answer to Rayn when he asked me something so I needed to quote that.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 28 2020 22:47 GMT
#250
if that's my mafia MO please feel free to call it with evidence.
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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
September 28 2020 22:49 GMT
#251
On September 29 2020 06:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2020 06:40 CopCake wrote:
On September 29 2020 06:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 29 2020 06:35 CopCake wrote:
On September 29 2020 06:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am trying to see this as townie/townie but I find it hard with how hard you changed your mind with not questioning (Rayn questioned Dadred even after the set up thing).

how would that be different from T/M?


I don't understand the T/M you are asking.

I believe more that you are town than GB at the moment and I am trying to put a perspective with town GB (I was sure he was mafia last game so I am trying to make the same mistake here) but it was hard for me to see him town until he posted he did it for reactions.

So far to me it is like:

1.- I am mafia GB and I don't know the set up, I don't think Dadred is the real cop so I start to fish reactions.
2.- I am mafia GB and I know the set up, I can assume or not assume that Dadred is the real cop so I start to fish reactions still.
3.- I am town GB and I am not sure if Dadred is the real cop yet I start to play to see reactions and engage conversation.

Then the clear set up comes

1.- I am mafia GB and I really didn't know the set up so my tone is genuine.
2.- I am mafia GB and I knew the set up so I have to act.
3.- I am town GB and I didn't know the set up, fuck.


how would town vs mafia be different of town vs town?


It is not different but when you posted you were supposed to be mafia together in the previous pm and used that info makes me think it is hard you are mafia/mafia and at least not mafia together in case one of you has to be mafia.


so it's not different. why did you say so? :D


He asked me this.


CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
September 28 2020 22:50 GMT
#252
GB try to live in a world in which mafia is not mafia.

Who is more likely to be mafia with ruxxar?
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 28 2020 22:51 GMT
#253
On September 29 2020 07:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
how about you find somethibng that actually makes me mafia instead of saying it's weird that i started scumreading you at THAT time?


Rayn, I find very hard to believe you would scumread me so hard based on the feeling that I maybe lying. Now you add the fact that myself and Damdred probably were going on the right direction and you've now misguided the thread to throw suspicions on a townie based on the belief I'm lying without considering I could be telling the truth. And regardless if I am telling the truth or not, this is not so alignment indicative that you wouldn't be trying to see me coming from another POV. This feels like inquisition and not a debate.

For example: what do you think of ruXXar's alignment?
I'm adorable.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 28 2020 22:51 GMT
#254
On September 29 2020 07:49 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2020 06:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 29 2020 06:40 CopCake wrote:
On September 29 2020 06:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 29 2020 06:35 CopCake wrote:
On September 29 2020 06:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am trying to see this as townie/townie but I find it hard with how hard you changed your mind with not questioning (Rayn questioned Dadred even after the set up thing).

how would that be different from T/M?


I don't understand the T/M you are asking.

I believe more that you are town than GB at the moment and I am trying to put a perspective with town GB (I was sure he was mafia last game so I am trying to make the same mistake here) but it was hard for me to see him town until he posted he did it for reactions.

So far to me it is like:

1.- I am mafia GB and I don't know the set up, I don't think Dadred is the real cop so I start to fish reactions.
2.- I am mafia GB and I know the set up, I can assume or not assume that Dadred is the real cop so I start to fish reactions still.
3.- I am town GB and I am not sure if Dadred is the real cop yet I start to play to see reactions and engage conversation.

Then the clear set up comes

1.- I am mafia GB and I really didn't know the set up so my tone is genuine.
2.- I am mafia GB and I knew the set up so I have to act.
3.- I am town GB and I didn't know the set up, fuck.


how would town vs mafia be different of town vs town?


It is not different but when you posted you were supposed to be mafia together in the previous pm and used that info makes me think it is hard you are mafia/mafia and at least not mafia together in case one of you has to be mafia.


so it's not different. why did you say so? :D


He asked me this.



i did. and you didnt answer.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 28 2020 22:52 GMT
#255
On September 29 2020 07:47 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2020 07:32 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 29 2020 07:09 CopCake wrote:
On September 29 2020 06:10 CopCake wrote:
I don't understand the whole "I knew or not knew the set up" clears me deal with GB.

He can easily be lying and knew Dadred was the cop, knowing the set up, etc and yet still post he is surprised about it when Shockey posted the real set up, at least last game I remember Dadred said he likes to fish for reactions so GB probably felt the need to post that he is surprised specially because sooner or later we would realize that Rayn and Him were the ones discussing the changes of the game.

So pretty much one of GB and Rayn is mafia more likely and I am more inclined to think it is GB.



[image loading]



Am I getting it right?:
GB and Rayn both discussed setups, so their reaction to a claim should be similar
Their reaction are different
Therefore, they must have different alignments.


No, the emoji is an answer to Rayn when he asked me something so I needed to quote that.


Ok but about myself and rayn being from different alignments, is that the reason?
I'm adorable.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
September 28 2020 22:53 GMT
#256
On September 29 2020 07:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2020 07:35 Dadred wrote:
Donruxx and rayn make sense with their interactions though? Idk ruxx isnt acting like mafia


I find it opportunistic that rayn started scumreading me when we were organizing ourselves in a very sensible PoE.
ruXXar had a forced opening, kinda white knighted me while not really reading the game, it's just him not bringing information to the table IMO.


So you were trying to organize town when rayn wasn't around?

I agree that Ruxxar is odd but I don't understand the "organizing" part because I don't see you organizing anything.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
September 28 2020 22:53 GMT
#257
On September 29 2020 07:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2020 07:49 CopCake wrote:
On September 29 2020 06:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 29 2020 06:40 CopCake wrote:
On September 29 2020 06:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 29 2020 06:35 CopCake wrote:
On September 29 2020 06:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am trying to see this as townie/townie but I find it hard with how hard you changed your mind with not questioning (Rayn questioned Dadred even after the set up thing).

how would that be different from T/M?


I don't understand the T/M you are asking.

I believe more that you are town than GB at the moment and I am trying to put a perspective with town GB (I was sure he was mafia last game so I am trying to make the same mistake here) but it was hard for me to see him town until he posted he did it for reactions.

So far to me it is like:

1.- I am mafia GB and I don't know the set up, I don't think Dadred is the real cop so I start to fish reactions.
2.- I am mafia GB and I know the set up, I can assume or not assume that Dadred is the real cop so I start to fish reactions still.
3.- I am town GB and I am not sure if Dadred is the real cop yet I start to play to see reactions and engage conversation.

Then the clear set up comes

1.- I am mafia GB and I really didn't know the set up so my tone is genuine.
2.- I am mafia GB and I knew the set up so I have to act.
3.- I am town GB and I didn't know the set up, fuck.


how would town vs mafia be different of town vs town?


It is not different but when you posted you were supposed to be mafia together in the previous pm and used that info makes me think it is hard you are mafia/mafia and at least not mafia together in case one of you has to be mafia.


so it's not different. why did you say so? :D


He asked me this.



i did. and you didnt answer.


I bolded the part that says "most likely"
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 28 2020 22:55 GMT
#258
On September 29 2020 07:51 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2020 07:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
how about you find somethibng that actually makes me mafia instead of saying it's weird that i started scumreading you at THAT time?


Rayn, I find very hard to believe you would scumread me so hard based on the feeling that I maybe lying. Now you add the fact that myself and Damdred probably were going on the right direction and you've now misguided the thread to throw suspicions on a townie based on the belief I'm lying without considering I could be telling the truth. And regardless if I am telling the truth or not, this is not so alignment indicative that you wouldn't be trying to see me coming from another POV. This feels like inquisition and not a debate.

For example: what do you think of ruXXar's alignment?

I have a question. If you believed i was lying about something, let's say about the QT post, would you believe it "hard" or "soft"? Other things are you just saying i am mafia without saying i am mafia... you are blaming me for you and damdred going to a right direction, for me being wrong, but that would make me mafia right? Instead you ask if i think youre mafia or not. mhm...

Nice politician, you would make a good one i agree.

I think ruxxar is town as i have clearly said already if you read my posts.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 28 2020 22:56 GMT
#259
On September 29 2020 07:53 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2020 07:37 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 29 2020 07:35 Dadred wrote:
Donruxx and rayn make sense with their interactions though? Idk ruxx isnt acting like mafia


I find it opportunistic that rayn started scumreading me when we were organizing ourselves in a very sensible PoE.
ruXXar had a forced opening, kinda white knighted me while not really reading the game, it's just him not bringing information to the table IMO.


So you were trying to organize town when rayn wasn't around?

I agree that Ruxxar is odd but I don't understand the "organizing" part because I don't see you organizing anything.


Damdred made a PoE list, I've agreed, we were going in that direction.
Rayn came and said I'm mafia because I'm lying, now thread is going to that direction.

I believe that when you debate with who you think is townie and start creating a PoE list, we are organizing ourselves. Bouncing reads etc. Now the thread is just "WHY DID YOU POST THIS GB" or things that doesn't make me mafia.
I'm adorable.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 28 2020 22:58 GMT
#260
On September 29 2020 07:56 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2020 07:53 CopCake wrote:
On September 29 2020 07:37 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 29 2020 07:35 Dadred wrote:
Donruxx and rayn make sense with their interactions though? Idk ruxx isnt acting like mafia


I find it opportunistic that rayn started scumreading me when we were organizing ourselves in a very sensible PoE.
ruXXar had a forced opening, kinda white knighted me while not really reading the game, it's just him not bringing information to the table IMO.


So you were trying to organize town when rayn wasn't around?

I agree that Ruxxar is odd but I don't understand the "organizing" part because I don't see you organizing anything.


Damdred made a PoE list, I've agreed, we were going in that direction.
Rayn came and said I'm mafia because I'm lying, now thread is going to that direction.

I believe that when you debate with who you think is townie and start creating a PoE list, we are organizing ourselves. Bouncing reads etc. Now the thread is just "WHY DID YOU POST THIS GB" or things that doesn't make me mafia.

how about you explain why did you post those thing then? from town perspective?
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