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On June 01 2020 01:35 Nakajin wrote:Oh come on I got to watch all of Elazer-soO and missed that last INno-Reynor So you saw inferior Korean ZvZ triumph, that sounds like a win to me.
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On June 01 2020 01:34 AzAlexZ wrote:everyone is when they hear music like this, gotta love it TL seems to have hired the former Dreamhack DJ and I'm not complaining
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On June 01 2020 01:35 t5Fab wrote: Mines hard counter the whole meelee of zerg. A single unit, pumped out at unbelievable speed and no cost, counters around half the units of the enemy. Great. Enter baneling, the unit that counters whatever the fuck you make out of barracks.
On June 01 2020 01:36 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2020 01:34 AzAlexZ wrote:On June 01 2020 01:33 Penev wrote: I am farmer everyone is when they hear music like this, gotta love it TL seems to have hired the former Dreamhack DJ and I'm not complaining I want Sandstorm and the Titanic cover on a recorder.
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Yeah, the mines were a great call. He had no economy, so they were the most cost efficient way to come back.
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On June 01 2020 01:32 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2020 01:30 DBooN wrote: Are ultras really worth it against mass cyclone? Feels like theyre just free good trades for Inno. He made the ultras to kill the thor army. Against cyclones the ultras are like a fish out of water. But they suck vs thors too... Tbh never seen a single map won by ultras against mech in the entire history of sc2 Its not the first time reynor throwing game by making ultras as well
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On June 01 2020 01:39 Aegwynn wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2020 01:32 Elentos wrote:On June 01 2020 01:30 DBooN wrote: Are ultras really worth it against mass cyclone? Feels like theyre just free good trades for Inno. He made the ultras to kill the thor army. Against cyclones the ultras are like a fish out of water. But they suck vs thors too... Tbh never seen a single map won by ultras against mech in the entire history of sc2 Its not the first time reynor throwing game by making ultras as well Ultra/ling/bane is actually a really good army against hellion/thor. Not great against tank heavy armies obviously. But I've seen soO win a fair amount of games against mech with LBM into ultras cause the Terran went too thor heavy.
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On June 01 2020 01:37 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2020 01:35 t5Fab wrote: Mines hard counter the whole meelee of zerg. A single unit, pumped out at unbelievable speed and no cost, counters around half the units of the enemy. Great. Enter baneling, the unit that counters whatever the fuck you make out of barracks. Not to mention the only reason the big mine switch worked was the extra synergy between the mine and cyclone-hellion. The former, you want to pick off bits and pieces (think how zergs fight bio mine), while the latter you want to just surround and YOLO.
Innovation added sophistication to his army and Reynor's sophistication (infestors) was mis-positioned, while he failed to tech further. You can't blame imbalance for a smart choice by innovation that Reynor misplayed against
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On June 01 2020 01:39 Aegwynn wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2020 01:32 Elentos wrote:On June 01 2020 01:30 DBooN wrote: Are ultras really worth it against mass cyclone? Feels like theyre just free good trades for Inno. He made the ultras to kill the thor army. Against cyclones the ultras are like a fish out of water. But they suck vs thors too... Tbh never seen a single map won by ultras against mech in the entire history of sc2 Its not the first time reynor throwing game by making ultras as well
There are some in hots in order to break a mech contain when pdd duration was 180sec or sth. And stephano won with it.
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On June 01 2020 01:37 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2020 01:35 t5Fab wrote: Mines hard counter the whole meelee of zerg. A single unit, pumped out at unbelievable speed and no cost, counters around half the units of the enemy. Great. Enter baneling, the unit that counters whatever the fuck you make out of barracks. Show nested quote +On June 01 2020 01:36 Penev wrote:On June 01 2020 01:34 AzAlexZ wrote:On June 01 2020 01:33 Penev wrote: I am farmer everyone is when they hear music like this, gotta love it TL seems to have hired the former Dreamhack DJ and I'm not complaining I want Sandstorm and the Titanic cover on a recorder. how about russian boy bands?
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On June 01 2020 01:42 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2020 01:37 Ej_ wrote:On June 01 2020 01:35 t5Fab wrote: Mines hard counter the whole meelee of zerg. A single unit, pumped out at unbelievable speed and no cost, counters around half the units of the enemy. Great. Enter baneling, the unit that counters whatever the fuck you make out of barracks. On June 01 2020 01:36 Penev wrote:On June 01 2020 01:34 AzAlexZ wrote:On June 01 2020 01:33 Penev wrote: I am farmer everyone is when they hear music like this, gotta love it TL seems to have hired the former Dreamhack DJ and I'm not complaining I want Sandstorm and the Titanic cover on a recorder. how about russian boy bands? The dreams...
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God please not the mech/skytoss mirror
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36682 Posts
Just tuned into the stream. Why is there a 2v2 going on?
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On June 01 2020 01:44 Elentos wrote: God please not the mech/skytoss mirror It's uThermal, they are gonna tank/phoenix all-in
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On June 01 2020 01:47 Seeker wrote: Just tuned into the stream. Why is there a 2v2 going on? Because making TY and Zest wait until 2 AM KST is important.
Alternatively as an interlude to fill the broadcast cause we've gone from 8 Bo5s to 4 per broadcast.
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Thought it was an archon match - but 2v2 seems more interesting to me
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So I assume when a team consists of 2 zergs 1 makes brood lords and the other infestors?
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If there's Protoss players on opposite sides of a 2v2 and one isn't making air that's already suboptimal.
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On June 01 2020 01:48 Penev wrote: So I assume when a team consists of 2 zergs 1 makes brood lords and the other infestors? one goes MLB and the other ranged (ravagers/hydra/lurkers/vipers etc.)
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On June 01 2020 01:40 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2020 01:39 Aegwynn wrote:On June 01 2020 01:32 Elentos wrote:On June 01 2020 01:30 DBooN wrote: Are ultras really worth it against mass cyclone? Feels like theyre just free good trades for Inno. He made the ultras to kill the thor army. Against cyclones the ultras are like a fish out of water. But they suck vs thors too... Tbh never seen a single map won by ultras against mech in the entire history of sc2 Its not the first time reynor throwing game by making ultras as well Ultra/ling/bane is actually a really good army against hellion/thor. Not great against tank heavy armies obviously. But I've seen soO win a fair amount of games against mech with LBM into ultras cause the Terran went too thor heavy. I've seen some games too, but all of them were already won in mid game so ultras were irrelevant. First of all he didn't have only hellion and thors. Even if he had, other compositions like only Ling bane, Ling bane roach/ravager, ling bane hydra, ling bane lurker, ling bane sh are still more cost efficient
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On June 01 2020 01:50 Aegwynn wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2020 01:40 Elentos wrote:On June 01 2020 01:39 Aegwynn wrote:On June 01 2020 01:32 Elentos wrote:On June 01 2020 01:30 DBooN wrote: Are ultras really worth it against mass cyclone? Feels like theyre just free good trades for Inno. He made the ultras to kill the thor army. Against cyclones the ultras are like a fish out of water. But they suck vs thors too... Tbh never seen a single map won by ultras against mech in the entire history of sc2 Its not the first time reynor throwing game by making ultras as well Ultra/ling/bane is actually a really good army against hellion/thor. Not great against tank heavy armies obviously. But I've seen soO win a fair amount of games against mech with LBM into ultras cause the Terran went too thor heavy. I've seen some games too, but all of them were already won in mid game so ultras were irrelevant. First of all he didn't have only hellion and thors. Even if he had, other compositions like only Ling bane, Ling bane roach/ravager, ling bane hydra, ling bane lurker, ling bane sh are still more cost efficient Well I think the coaching position on Qlash is open so...
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