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On November 25 2019 01:41 yht9657 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2019 01:40 Geo.Rion wrote:On November 25 2019 01:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On November 25 2019 01:35 Geo.Rion wrote:On November 25 2019 01:34 JJH777 wrote: Welp ZvP still looks absolutely hopeless for Protoss. Zest just won 3-1 After getting 3-0ed by Reynor, so maybe the takeaway is that Solar isn't very good at ZvP. So he 3-1 Stats yesterday, but he's bad at ZvP. Actually whenever Z loses to P it's because they re bad, and whenever P loses it's balance problems, got it Stats lost because he didn't come here to win. Also it's a fact zvp has been broken for quite a while. cool cool cool, someone whose best mu is ZvP beats someone whose worst mu is PvZ, so it means it's unplaybale for toss. But Solar vs Zest doesnt matter, cuz Solar has bad zvp, cool cool cool
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On November 25 2019 01:42 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2019 01:41 yht9657 wrote:On November 25 2019 01:40 Geo.Rion wrote:On November 25 2019 01:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On November 25 2019 01:35 Geo.Rion wrote:On November 25 2019 01:34 JJH777 wrote: Welp ZvP still looks absolutely hopeless for Protoss. Zest just won 3-1 After getting 3-0ed by Reynor, so maybe the takeaway is that Solar isn't very good at ZvP. So he 3-1 Stats yesterday, but he's bad at ZvP. Actually whenever Z loses to P it's because they re bad, and whenever P loses it's balance problems, got it Stats lost because he didn't come here to win. Also it's a fact zvp has been broken for quite a while. cool cool cool, someone whose best mu is ZvP beats someone whose worst mu is PvZ, so it means it's unplaybale for zerg. But Solar vs Zest doesnt matter, cuz Solar has bad zvp, cool cool cool
Save the shittalk, we're getting Serral vs Zest next anyhow.
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how long is the break for? I might not last xD
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Let's see how Reynor does vs the pirate, I'm pretty curious I must say
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On November 25 2019 01:45 -visnu- wrote: how long is the break for? I might not last xD 10min? 20min? They probably give the players a few minutes rest.
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On November 25 2019 01:42 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2019 01:41 yht9657 wrote:On November 25 2019 01:40 Geo.Rion wrote:On November 25 2019 01:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On November 25 2019 01:35 Geo.Rion wrote:On November 25 2019 01:34 JJH777 wrote: Welp ZvP still looks absolutely hopeless for Protoss. Zest just won 3-1 After getting 3-0ed by Reynor, so maybe the takeaway is that Solar isn't very good at ZvP. So he 3-1 Stats yesterday, but he's bad at ZvP. Actually whenever Z loses to P it's because they re bad, and whenever P loses it's balance problems, got it Stats lost because he didn't come here to win. Also it's a fact zvp has been broken for quite a while. cool cool cool, someone whose best mu is ZvP beats someone whose worst mu is PvZ, so it means it's unplaybale for toss. But Solar vs Zest doesnt matter, cuz Solar has bad zvp, cool cool cool Well actually I disagree that Solar has bad zvp. I don't think any top zerg player has bad zvp these days.
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On November 25 2019 01:42 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2019 01:41 yht9657 wrote:On November 25 2019 01:40 Geo.Rion wrote:On November 25 2019 01:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On November 25 2019 01:35 Geo.Rion wrote:On November 25 2019 01:34 JJH777 wrote: Welp ZvP still looks absolutely hopeless for Protoss. Zest just won 3-1 After getting 3-0ed by Reynor, so maybe the takeaway is that Solar isn't very good at ZvP. So he 3-1 Stats yesterday, but he's bad at ZvP. Actually whenever Z loses to P it's because they re bad, and whenever P loses it's balance problems, got it Stats lost because he didn't come here to win. Also it's a fact zvp has been broken for quite a while. There is consensus, that's all one has to say really. Yeah, we all have eyes. PvZ still seems unwinnable if the P takes any amount of damage early or mid game. It is even (?) when it does not (Nydus SH still looks OP for me) Meanwhile, Z can loose up to 10 drones and still be ok. If ahead, there is almost no way to loose. The creep spread assures that.
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On November 25 2019 01:42 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2019 01:41 yht9657 wrote:On November 25 2019 01:40 Geo.Rion wrote:On November 25 2019 01:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On November 25 2019 01:35 Geo.Rion wrote:On November 25 2019 01:34 JJH777 wrote: Welp ZvP still looks absolutely hopeless for Protoss. Zest just won 3-1 After getting 3-0ed by Reynor, so maybe the takeaway is that Solar isn't very good at ZvP. So he 3-1 Stats yesterday, but he's bad at ZvP. Actually whenever Z loses to P it's because they re bad, and whenever P loses it's balance problems, got it Stats lost because he didn't come here to win. Also it's a fact zvp has been broken for quite a while. cool cool cool, someone whose best mu is ZvP beats someone whose worst mu is PvZ, so it means it's unplaybale for toss. But Solar vs Zest doesnt matter, cuz Solar has bad zvp, cool cool cool
True enough, but I think what it's really about is Nydushost and Zerg blord deathball... We have seen that so much that we have all gotten allergic to it now.
But the answer to that is definitely not to make Skytoss deathball strong enough to beat it.
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On November 25 2019 01:46 Penev wrote: Let's see how Reynor does vs the pirate, I'm pretty curious I must say
Yeah, so hyped for that series.
And can we finally get some Koreans on the couch please!
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On November 25 2019 01:47 yht9657 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2019 01:42 Geo.Rion wrote:On November 25 2019 01:41 yht9657 wrote:On November 25 2019 01:40 Geo.Rion wrote:On November 25 2019 01:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On November 25 2019 01:35 Geo.Rion wrote:On November 25 2019 01:34 JJH777 wrote: Welp ZvP still looks absolutely hopeless for Protoss. Zest just won 3-1 After getting 3-0ed by Reynor, so maybe the takeaway is that Solar isn't very good at ZvP. So he 3-1 Stats yesterday, but he's bad at ZvP. Actually whenever Z loses to P it's because they re bad, and whenever P loses it's balance problems, got it Stats lost because he didn't come here to win. Also it's a fact zvp has been broken for quite a while. cool cool cool, someone whose best mu is ZvP beats someone whose worst mu is PvZ, so it means it's unplaybale for toss. But Solar vs Zest doesnt matter, cuz Solar has bad zvp, cool cool cool Well actually I disagree that Solar has bad zvp. I don't think any top zerg player has bad zvp these days.
Solar was just sucking in every match. There are like none top Zerg nowadays except Dark choker.
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On November 25 2019 01:30 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2019 01:29 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Is Serral just trying to tell the balance team the patch doesn't even change anything? Well, someone needs to tell them
Did anyone serious believe that patch would change much?
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Foreign Zerg heroes vs Korean Titans. So hype.
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On November 25 2019 01:50 BronzeKnee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2019 01:30 deacon.frost wrote:On November 25 2019 01:29 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Is Serral just trying to tell the balance team the patch doesn't even change anything? Well, someone needs to tell them Did anyone serious believe that patch would change much? I didn;'t event bother to read it because I'm letting the SC2 slowly out of my life. It's just not worth it anymore. All the balance stuff we get lately isn't worth it. Time for another 2-year break .Or longer.
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We're down to only four players. Who is going to win it all?
Poll: HomeStory Cup XX Champion?You must be logged in to vote in this poll. ☐ INnoVation ☐ Reynor ☐ Zest ☐ Serral
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I remember having said this about last patch :
On November 01 2019 23:54 sirok_ wrote: [...] By the way, I think abduct, parasiting bombs, locusts, mass moving spores, queens heal, will still dominate late-game by being more cost-effective than any T/P composition. Hope to be wrong, time will tell.
Hope that Zest will proof me wrong. Go Zest !
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On November 25 2019 01:50 BronzeKnee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2019 01:30 deacon.frost wrote:On November 25 2019 01:29 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Is Serral just trying to tell the balance team the patch doesn't even change anything? Well, someone needs to tell them Did anyone serious believe that patch would change much?
There were a whole lot of Zerg players claiming Carriers would be unbeatable again due to the changes. Lol
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On November 25 2019 01:53 sirok_ wrote:I remember having said this about last patch : Show nested quote +On November 01 2019 23:54 sirok_ wrote: [...] By the way, I think abduct, parasiting bombs, locusts, mass moving spores, queens heal, will still dominate late-game by being more cost-effective than any T/P composition. Hope to be wrong, time will tell. Hope that Zest will proof me wrong. Go Zest !
> Zest > late-game
I wouldn't get my hopes up.
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Special in a towel in honor of the OG Towel Terran
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On November 25 2019 01:50 BronzeKnee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2019 01:30 deacon.frost wrote:On November 25 2019 01:29 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Is Serral just trying to tell the balance team the patch doesn't even change anything? Well, someone needs to tell them Did anyone serious believe that patch would change much?
Well it did... zealots without charge damage made any toss push much weaker vs zerg, and glaive builds basically dead.
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A patch can’t change the fact that Koreans don’t train anymore and now they suck. Look at stats form or soO they suck hard. Inno playing at 50% of his lvl is brutalizing everyone.
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