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On April 05 2019 03:57 hiroshOne wrote: I'm 39 this year, and I'm playing. The only issue is lack of time (wife and 2 kids) that's why I warmed my stay in diamond :-) But I have no ambition to be pro. Just playing for fun.
You just need to convince your kids they should be pro players, then you can be the coach
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On April 04 2019 04:39 Jurassic1 wrote: I am 34 and recently found joy in this game again. Do you think I am too old to make GM?
I played WOL when it came out and 2 base muta until Diamond in 2010.
I got back last year after I randomly found out about Serral beating Koreans.
I did mutas again and only got to Plat3...then found Vibe''s Bronze to GM guide and made it to Plat1. Hitting a wall right now with A move but learned about Macro. You are not too old but is the journey worth it at that age? I don’t know, you probably won’t find that much joy playing if your sole goal is to become GM, mostly frustration.
I’d recommend playing as much as you enjoy it, while keeping this GM goal in mind, and not care that much if you become too frustrated.
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i'm about to be 32 and still play starcraft around master level... there's other players our age as well who are fine, age should never be a barrier. do it if you want.
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I think the majority of determined adults under 50 can probably make it to GM (on Americas) with the right type, amount and dedication to practice.
The main problem is at 34 (my age too) is life does become a real hurdle to any sincere dedication to a video game, as any thing other than a casual pass time.
The other issue that I see, is that SC2 is probably more fun (for older, less serious, non-pros) at moderately lower levels i.e. high diamond-low masters because the higher you go, the more knife-edged everything starts to become and if you're like me, this kind of stuff is frustrating.
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On April 04 2019 05:46 BisuDagger wrote: If you aren't a pro, I think StarCraft gets easier as you get older.
Turning 30 this year, and I really only started playing with some regularity 1-2 years ago (after playing a lot from WOL - HOTS). I was never any good--only made it to Diamond (but I was diamond when there was no masters!), but I think it has gotten a little easier as I've gotten older. I'm a little looser and enjoy the game more. My APM is even better than it used to be, but I don't expect this to last forever.
SC2 remains my favorite lunch-break pastime
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masters anyone can make
GM not so sure, prove us wrong buddy
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can def get GM if you take enough time off. but it has to be important to you or you won't make it. Take small steps, analyze replays, watch as much pro starcraft as possible, and not just watch it, analyze it while doing so.
Also do it on the NA server, it's way easier. i would say a 5200-5300 on EU easily makes GM on NA nowadays.
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GM is REALLY hard to reach, you have to practice your ass off and really refine your style and even then it's not guaranteed. Anyone who's willing to practice deliberately can reach M, though. The skill gap between M3 and GM is huge, though. Also don't forget: Everyone else got better over the years, too.
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Im 35 with a wife and three kids. I put the game down for about four years and just got back into it a week ago. I havent played ranked matches yet but unranked is still tracking my MMR and im being placed entirely against diamonds and beating them quite regularly. i dont think its out of the question for someone to be in their mid 30's and make grandmaster.
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You certainly ain't the oldest one on ladder, brother. Far from it. Keep trucking!
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i returned after 4years to sc2, basically i was master before, it took me about a month to get back into master3, i remember in hots it took like 3-4months to reach master (i was master in wol and stopped playing as well). One different thing i did after returning to sc2 is focusing only to macro builds, and honestly it helped me so much, i got improvements in my play each day. I can adapt new information in my play without changing much. So basically if you are planning to improve, focus on macro. Also try to to focus on your mistakes, what you did wrong each game you lost, try to analyze opponents builds, how you won, i never did that stuff before, but definitely helps so much.
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damn, a lot of players coming back in. Maymbe there is salvation for sc2? lol..anyway i got into sc2 Dec 2017 i believe. I played on and off too, maymbe a total of only 9 months of actual playing and gaming? not sure, ive been offline for a month now basically. I'm basically retired though, i use to play back then 2000-05. I would say get the old skool gamers out and just get into it. I'm AkA: gO)PaTieNt, NeT.BOY_PaTieNt. I'm sorta disabled now as well so its hard for me to compete at a competitive lvl.
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You can’t be too old, only too busy to put in the practice. To get to GM you can’t play mindlessly, you have to specifically focus on weak points and fix them with deliberate practice instead of thinking short term about winning ladder points. For example, if you are Zerg, you should practice the Serral method for injecting. You might do that by playing 5 games a day against very easy AI practicing a solid macro build and focusing on smooth inject cycles before you ladder.
That said, Platinum and Diamond are very fun leagues to be in. They are not as hard to attain andmore play styles are viable, but people still mostly play builds you would recognize for the first 5 minutes of a professional game. Bronze and Silver league you’re unlikely to see recognizable standard builds, things go off the rails after 2 minutes.
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Yeah, it is just a game, play it for fun and/or the challenge. Don't get caught up on age, just figure out what sparks joy when you play the game.
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I'm 38 turning 39 this year.
was masters multiple times but now im stuck at diamond 1.
I work a lot etc so I can't put my best effort but I do feel people have gotten better and at times when I'm tired from work I do feel slower
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Chinese caster Xiaose is 37 years old now,and he's GM in KR ladder.
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Life is what gets in the way as you get older.
I am pretty sure someone putting as much time in as a younger player can attain any level. I suspect top 100/being a pro in Korea is near impossible even if the age limitation factor is probably extremly small, that top 100 is putting as much time as humanly possible so even a very small edge make all the difference. Also, I suspect probably there is a biological limitation that is less correlated to age that we think. Some humans simply have a better brain for those tasks and can achieve higher proficiency.
Thing is : it's so much harder to justify putting 10 hours a day and seeing the years pass by when you are 35 than when you are 19.
I guess there needs to be more study on the subject?
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Set your bar at Master first (or even a solid Diamond 1). Your expectation must be realistic. Reach the Master rank first, then re-evaluate your goal and go from there. I bet you do not have to ask any of us. You already know the answer yourself.
I'm also 34 yo and is Master. Full-time job. To answer your original question, I do think it's highly possible to reach GM at our age or even older. The key is to continuously learn the game correctly and improve. You probably cannot reach GM without a solid foundation of knowledge and have no guidance. The fastest way is most likely with a coach as it is hard to learn it on your own after you get home from work.
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I don't think you will make it, it takes a lot of time and dedication. I think you need to practice at least 2 years very consistent to have a shot for GM. I was very active in WoL and on the edge of GM (M1) and played a lot of GMs (fun sidefact I have never won vs Kas I was like 0:15 vs him) - right now I play a few games a week after a 5year break (catched up with the meta cause I watched most of the big tournaments). So I win easily vs D1 and low masters BUT there is a big skillgap between M3 and GM. So everything is possible but it's a tough way and takes a lot of hours
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I don't think being good at SC2 really has much to do with age, more to do with how much time you can dedicate to it. I'm turning 36 this year, my third child is on the way, and some weeks I literally don't have time to play SC2 at all. I can still maintain a Diamond MMR pretty easily, but to think I could ever make GM with the amount of time I have to dedicate to the game is simply put, delusional.
So again, age is basically irrelevant. I know I would likely make Masters pretty easily if I could even just put in 2-3 hours/day, like 5 days a week, but unfortunately that isn't even possible for me with the time constraints I have working full-time and raising a young family.
Best of luck, and remember, just enjoy the game, and make realistic goals. Going up a Tier within your league is more the kind of realistic goal you should be setting, because putting the bar so high will only result in frustration. I know I will never be top Masters calibre because I can't put enough time and effort aside for SC2, so I enjoy playing at a Diamond lv when I do get the chance... Hope this helps.
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