2018 Tour de France - Page 3
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darthfoley
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L_Master
United States7946 Posts
Damn those boys have some power though. They claimed a headwind on yesterdays stage and Porte from his strava averaged just shy of 19mph up 7%. That's roughly 9-10 w/kg for about 3:30 or so. With a little sitting in that might drop to 8 w/kg but for a guy like Martin who went pretty early, have to think that was at least 550w+ for that time. Must be fun having a 400w threshold combined with a 25kJ FRC | ||
L_Master
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Gjhc
Portugal161 Posts
You may also find interesting Valverde's data from fleche wallone, 513W for 3:14, peaking 716W for 17s when he almost catched alaphilippe. Martin numbers should be close to these. I wouldn't worry, the stage is hard enough that even if most teams try to be defensive I think it'll blow anyways, no way there arent going to be many splits | ||
L_Master
United States7946 Posts
On July 14 2018 08:09 Gjhc wrote: Groenewegen... Put 3 bike lengths on gaviria, who was 2 bikes ahead of sagan, most dominant sprint so far. I'd bet he wins at least 1 more stage. You may also find interesting Valverde's data from fleche wallone, 513W for 3:14, peaking 716W for 17s when he almost catched alaphilippe. Martin numbers should be close to these. I wouldn't worry, the stage is hard enough that even if most teams try to be defensive I think it'll blow anyways, no way there arent going to be many splits That's somewhat what I've always guessed it is, interesting to hear the actual numbers. Tbh in his dominant wins I've estimated it to be closer to 600w. Which is nuts. That's 600w for 3'....at the end of 6 hours of racing. I'm pretty fit and if you dropped me in there fresh I could only do that power for 2'...and I'm at least 5% heavier that Valverde when fit. | ||
Elmonti
Spain299 Posts
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DaCruise
Denmark2457 Posts
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Gjhc
Portugal161 Posts
On July 15 2018 16:16 DaCruise wrote: Today will be an interesting stage. I just hope they will finish before 17:00 Yea, today's stage may be the most interesting and it starts and finishes earlier so everyone can watch the world cup finals. | ||
HolydaKing
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Gjhc
Portugal161 Posts
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smr
Germany4808 Posts
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Gjhc
Portugal161 Posts
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
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smr
Germany4808 Posts
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
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HolydaKing
21225 Posts
also sick how Greipel looked after this stage. so much dirt in his face and everything, damn, that was a tough stage. ^^ | ||
L_Master
United States7946 Posts
That said, I'm still a little torn about how I feel about hard cobbles in the TdF. In general, I'm completely on board, I think it's fine to test GC riders over varied parcours. The TdF is not purely a race to see who is the absolute best climber, or at least it shouldn't be in my opinion. Stages like this help determine that. However, the obnoxious number of punctures, other mechanicals, and poor draws being caught out if really a bummer. I dislike heavily that aspect is an issue. Tejay and Bardet at a minimum suffered hugely as a result of back luck punctures. Aside from those two however, plus Landa, there were no major changes to the GC pecking order with most everyone making it through unscathed. | ||
L_Master
United States7946 Posts
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HolydaKing
21225 Posts
I'd be very happy to be wrong about the first thing though and hope the mountain stages are going to surprise ne. | ||
L_Master
United States7946 Posts
On July 16 2018 01:52 HolydaKing wrote: I seriously doubt Froome won't win TDF at this point already. Sky is super strong, and I just don't see anyone strong enough right now. Also think Sagan winning Green is pretty much safe too, although you are right I would've thought he'd win today. I'd be very happy to be wrong about the first thing though and hope the mountain stages are going to surprise ne. Froome looks decent now. Given his position + the loss of a serious challenger in Porte, it looks good for him. There is a BIG question mark though, and that is Giro fatigue. Froome may race well next week, have a solid or even dominant looking position, and then collapse over the final week. Oddly, that makes Geraint Thomas something of a threat to Froome depending on G's 3 week ability. The bolded part I find confusing. I'm not sure what you mean since we haven't had any displays of strength yet. To me, the biggest threats right now seem to be Quintana (the way and ease with which he raced on the cobbles suggests he is very strong, if that's the case watch out big time in the mountains) and Yates (assuming his form is similar to Simon's, and it may well be). Also, although his 3 week potential is slightly unknown, Roglic is an incredible time trialist and has won several stage races this year. He's a legitimate threat. Nibali can't be discounted either. Good as he is, I'm kind of writing of Dumoulin. The TT is very lumpy, which will limit his gains over GC riders, and it was clear there were other guys climbing better than him at the Giro and he will have same fatigue concerns as Froome. Landa also can't, but I'm badly worried about that crash. If he doesn't abandon I still think he will lose major time on one of the first three mountain stages. All of those guys are guys who could threaten a sub 100% Froome, and there is a good chance we will see subpar Froome in the final week of the race. | ||
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