On March 24 2018 14:17 pvsnp wrote:
Is the answer to Ravens just ling/bane?
I guess so
Is the answer to Ravens just ling/bane?
I guess so
Nah, the answer is just asking for a nerf
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DieuCure
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On March 24 2018 14:17 pvsnp wrote: Is the answer to Ravens just ling/bane? I guess so Nah, the answer is just asking for a nerf | ||
ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On March 24 2018 14:17 pvsnp wrote: Is the answer to Ravens just ling/bane? I guess so And attack before they have too much energy it seems. | ||
neutralrobot
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SetGuitarsToKill
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neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
On March 24 2018 14:18 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Show nested quote + On March 24 2018 14:17 pvsnp wrote: Is the answer to Ravens just ling/bane? I guess so And attack before they have too much energy it seems. Dark also showed some amazing splits and micro vs ravens at WESG. | ||
Charoisaur
Germany15618 Posts
On March 24 2018 14:16 Fango wrote: Is maru's turtle terran viable on this map? I feel like dark just takes the whole map There's probably no better map for this | ||
pvsnp
7676 Posts
On March 24 2018 14:18 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Show nested quote + On March 24 2018 14:17 pvsnp wrote: Is the answer to Ravens just ling/bane? I guess so And attack before they have too much energy it seems. Actually I don't think it matters. Just suicide a full army of ling/bane in to drain the Raven energy, then remax and go in for round 2 while all the Ravens are empty. Ling/bane is super cheap compared to a full Tier 3 zerg army The key here is the economy, Dark had basically his whole half of the map | ||
Morbidius
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Moobutt
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On March 24 2018 14:19 Charoisaur wrote: Show nested quote + On March 24 2018 14:16 Fango wrote: Is maru's turtle terran viable on this map? I feel like dark just takes the whole map There's probably no better map for this Yep, but he was too much behind. | ||
Charoisaur
Germany15618 Posts
On March 24 2018 14:19 neutralrobot wrote: Show nested quote + On March 24 2018 14:18 ZigguratOfUr wrote: On March 24 2018 14:17 pvsnp wrote: Is the answer to Ravens just ling/bane? I guess so And attack before they have too much energy it seems. Dark also showed some amazing splits and micro vs ravens at WESG. What? Impossible. You can't split or micro vs Raven. | ||
Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
On March 24 2018 14:19 Charoisaur wrote: Show nested quote + On March 24 2018 14:16 Fango wrote: Is maru's turtle terran viable on this map? I feel like dark just takes the whole map There's probably no better map for this Backwater. | ||
Fango
United Kingdom8810 Posts
On March 24 2018 14:19 Charoisaur wrote: Show nested quote + On March 24 2018 14:16 Fango wrote: Is maru's turtle terran viable on this map? I feel like dark just takes the whole map There's probably no better map for this You say that but it was 8 base zerg to 4 base terran. Despite how cost effective ghosts and ravens supposedly are, if the zerg is ahead a few expansions they will still win. That's why usually in Maru's lategame he sends banshees and ghosts to take out hatcheries | ||
pvsnp
7676 Posts
On March 24 2018 14:21 Fango wrote: Show nested quote + On March 24 2018 14:19 Charoisaur wrote: On March 24 2018 14:16 Fango wrote: Is maru's turtle terran viable on this map? I feel like dark just takes the whole map There's probably no better map for this You say that but it was 8 base zerg to 4 base terran. Despite how costs effective ghosts and ravens supposedly are, if the zerg is ahead a few expansions they will still win. That's why usually in Maru's lategame he sends banshees and ghosts to take out hatcheries Yeah, it was the eco that killed him. Dark got too many bases and kept them mining unopposed. Mech with the banshee hit squad + hellion runbys is probably the better choice since you have a solid tank line to fall back to | ||
yangluphil
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On March 24 2018 14:17 pvsnp wrote: Is the answer to Ravens just ling/bane? I guess so It is the answer when you can afford remaxing at least twice | ||
DieuCure
France3713 Posts
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pvsnp
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On March 24 2018 14:23 yangluphil wrote: Show nested quote + On March 24 2018 14:17 pvsnp wrote: Is the answer to Ravens just ling/bane? I guess so It is the answer when you can afford remaxing at least twice Ling/bane is really cheap compared to an army full of tech units. If a lategame Zerg can't afford to max out on ling/bane twice they're in a really rough spot already | ||
ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On March 24 2018 14:23 yangluphil wrote: Show nested quote + On March 24 2018 14:17 pvsnp wrote: Is the answer to Ravens just ling/bane? I guess so It is the answer when you can afford remaxing at least twice Tbf being able to insta-remax a few times is common for Zerg in the late game. | ||
Fango
United Kingdom8810 Posts
On March 24 2018 14:23 yangluphil wrote: Show nested quote + On March 24 2018 14:17 pvsnp wrote: Is the answer to Ravens just ling/bane? I guess so It is the answer when you can afford remaxing at least twice Which is perfectly reasonable given that a terran turtling to mass raven isn't much of a threat until they actually get there. Zerg can just out-expand them. | ||
Charoisaur
Germany15618 Posts
On March 24 2018 14:21 Fango wrote: Show nested quote + On March 24 2018 14:19 Charoisaur wrote: On March 24 2018 14:16 Fango wrote: Is maru's turtle terran viable on this map? I feel like dark just takes the whole map There's probably no better map for this You say that but it was 8 base zerg to 4 base terran. Despite how cost effective ghosts and ravens supposedly are, if the zerg is ahead a few expansions they will still win. That's why usually in Maru's lategame he sends banshees and ghosts to take out hatcheries His mistake was probably as Tastosis pointed out that he took the harder to defend bases first. No way Dark can attack like this when Maru sits on the "normal" first 5 bases | ||
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