NBA Offseason 2017 - Page 29
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geokilla
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andrewlt
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Jerubaal
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dsyxelic
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also that seems like an insane salary i understand salaries rose but holy moly that much for him? | ||
Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
On July 06 2017 13:14 dsyxelic wrote: oh hey just realized otto porter is born literally on the same day as me also that seems like an insane salary i understand salaries rose but holy moly that much for him? There is a not-so-small chance that people will be talking about "trading Otto Porter's shit contract" in a few seasons. $104 million for 4? For Otto Porter? Damn. In 3 years, Nets will either have: 1- D'Angelo Russell's shit contract 2- Timofey Mozgov's shit contract 3- Otto Porter's shit contract Or: 1- D'Angelo Russell becomes an All-Star. 2- Otto Porter becomes an All-Star. 3- Timofey Mozgov's contract ends and they snatch a big name free agent, like Karl Anthony Towns, and Nets become a fucking super team. | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada15578 Posts
https://sports.vice.com/en_ca/article/ywzepv/how-the-nbas-new-two-way-contracts-will-affect-the-draft-and-beyond | ||
Keyboard Warrior
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Anyway, here's a more relevant and meaningful post. I saw it on reddit and conducted an investigation myself, the results are eyeopening and completely shocking. Comparison of kobe and lebron in clutch situations. clutch here is defined as 2 minutes with at most 3 points. Op limited it to playoffs and finals, Playoffs: Kobe - 40/96 in clutch situations. - FT 67/79 - TS 58 % - Assists per 36: 4.3 assists - TO per 36: 1.7 turnovers Lebron - 40/106 in clutch situation - FT 49/67 - TS 49.8% - Assist per 36: 4.2 assists - TO per 36: 4.2 turnovers Finals: Kobe - 10/20 in clutch situations - FT 4/5 - TS 56.4% - Assists per 36: 7.5 assists - TO per 36: 1.5TO Lebron - 4/23 in clutch situations - TS 10/14 - TS 31% - Assists per 36: 3.7 assists - TO per 36: 3.7 assists In addition, i found out the following valuable "clutch" statistics as well Kobe USG% regular season: 31.4% Kobe USG% postseason: 39.8% lebron USG% regular season: 32.1% lebron USG% postseason: 26.3% Number of game winners/equalizers taken in clutch situations: Kobe: 18/24 lebron: 4/15 tldr: 1. Kobe is more clutch than lebron in clutch situations 2. Kobe is a BETTER PLAYMAKER than lebron in clucth situations 3. Kobe becomes more aggressive in clutch situations in the postseason compared to the regular season 4. lebron wilts in clutch situations in the postseason compared to the regular season 5. Kobe rises to the challenge to take the last shot in clutch situations: 75% 6. lebron is cowardly and hides from the challenge of taking the last shot in clutch situations: 27% stlsdr Kobe is clutch, lelbron is not. Kobe >>> lebron TAKE THAT FOR DATA! | ||
cLutZ
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JimmyJRaynor
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LBJ's landing mechanics are far better making him more durable and less injury prone. | ||
JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
I guess based on this we can expect Lebron to played 40 years? Couldn't you at least pick someone who had a injury shortnend career like Derick Rose or something when professing your landing mechanics "science" | ||
Keyboard Warrior
United States1178 Posts
Here it is: You really are a troll arent you. Posting irrelevant threads as if you were paid by the click, still posting about statistics after everyone destroyed you on it, and now claiming as if that knowledge if yours lol gtfo. JimmiC, ignore him. He is an internet troll who coppies what he sees mindlessly and baiting us all in a heated discussion, smdh | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada15578 Posts
http://heatzone.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2017/07/05/dion-waiters-set-to-return-to-miami-finalizing-deal-with-heat/ Miami still has 19 million in cap space and $14 million in cap holds so they should be able to retain their players. Miami still has plenty of cap space. On July 06 2017 23:52 Keyboard Warrior wrote: I too saw that in a youtube video. Lemme find it. Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFLKPq_86A4 You really are a troll arent you. Posting irrelevant threads as if you were paid by the click, still posting about statistics after everyone destroyed you on it, and now claiming as if that knowledge if yours lol gtfo. JimmiC, ignore him. He is an internet troll who coppies what he sees mindlessly and baiting us all in a heated discussion, smdh careful, if you keep this up people are going to start claiming that you are me. thanks for reposting the video i posted months ago. On July 06 2017 23:37 JimmiC wrote: So with kobe playing 1346 reg season and 220 playoff games over 20 years, Damn injury shortened Career! I guess based on this we can expect Lebron to played 40 years? after age 34 bryant was a shadow of his former self due to knee and achilles injuries caused by bad landing mechanics. so yep injuries shortened his career. | ||
Keyboard Warrior
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JimmiC
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Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
As a Lebron fan, I admit his greatness lies elsewhere. I realized something while I was watching the finals with friends. In sure-to-win games, or in the first three quarters, Lebron will produce monster numbers. But when the game is on the line, Lebron is not deadly at all. He is a great player, but he does not command the same fear and respect other killers do, like MJ, Kobe, and Durant. Coaches and players have long known Kobe as a deadly clutch player, hence the automatic double and triple teams. We are lucky that Kobe has the ego to shoot and make difficult shots over double and triple teams, the classic Kobe shot. It's good for "spectatorship". The great JVG said it best, "The GOAT argument is controversial, the most skillful player argument is debatable, but there is no doubt that Kobe is the greatest difficult shotmaker of all time." Mike Breen and Mark J could barely contain their awe and laughter after hearing that. Although the thing that surprises me from your post is the assist-to ratio. I think this has to do with Kobe being wiser and having better handles. Lebron's playmaking is different from traditional playmaking of say Stockton and CP3 in the sense that they manipulate, bend, and unravel the defense on the dribble while actively forcing and allowing the play to develop and make the best pass. In Lebron's case, no one is threatened of being crossed or shimmied by him so most perimeter coverage is single. Lebron makes his plays by pounding hard into the paint and attracting the double and from there, it is simply a matter of finding the open man. | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada15578 Posts
Bryant had right knee surgeries in 2003, 2006 and 2010. He started landing more and more on his left leg only as the right knee surgeries piled up. He has a lot of work done on that knee in general.. long before age 35. http://www.espn.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=5405418 To conclude: LBJ has excellent landing mechanics. As he enters his mid 30s it'll be interesting to see how long he goes before his body breaks down. | ||
Keyboard Warrior
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
On July 07 2017 00:17 JimmyJRaynor wrote: bad landing mechanics cause leg injuries. we've been over it before. Bryant had right knee surgeries in 2003, 2006 and 2010. He started landing more and more on his left leg as the right knee surgeries piled up. Yes you have posted videos where they show highlights of people landing poorly. There could be some truth to it. But Kobe is the worst example in the world since he was durable as hell. It is also not something you came up with and is unrelated to what was posted above where you posted it. It's just one of the go too stupid things you post when you feel the need to "contribute" On July 07 2017 00:17 Twinkle Toes wrote: Your general trolly style aside, there is truth to this. As a Lebron fan, I admit his greatness lies elsewhere. I realized something while I was watching the finals with friends. In sure-to-win games, or in the first three quarters, Lebron will produce monster numbers. But when the game is on the line, Lebron is not deadly at all. He is a great player, but he does not command the same fear and respect other killers do, like MJ, Kobe, and Durant. Coaches and players have long known Kobe as a deadly clutch player, hence the automatic double and triple teams. We are lucky that Kobe has the ego to shoot and make difficult shots over double and triple teams, the classic Kobe shot. It's good for "spectatorship". The great JVG said it best, "The GOAT argument is controversial, the most skillful player argument is debatable, but there is no doubt that Kobe is the greatest difficult shotmaker of all time." Mike Breen and Mark J could barely contain their awe and laughter after hearing that. Although the thing that surprises me from your post is the assist-to ratio. I think this has to do with Kobe being wiser and having better handles. Lebron's playmaking is different from traditional playmaking of say Stockton and CP3 in the sense that they manipulate, bend, and unravel the defense on the dribble while actively forcing and allowing the play to develop and make the best pass. In Lebron's case, no one is threatened of being crossed or shimmied by him so most perimeter coverage is single. Lebron makes his plays by pounding hard into the paint and attracting the double and from there, it is simply a matter of finding the open man. I always find it funny when people say LBJ sucks because Kobe/MJ did this or vice versa. None of them suck they are all stratospheres above your average player. But yes others did somethings better then the other ones, it makes the GOAT discussion both interesting and impossible. | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada15578 Posts
On July 07 2017 00:22 Keyboard Warrior wrote: Where is your proof that lbj has good landing mechanics??? same video series that i've already posted. and you reposted. so just for nostalgic purposes i'll repost it. 13 minutes. also, my own observations indicate his landing mechanics are good. someone else doesn't have to say it for me to say it. but, the video provides actual examples so i posted it. me and my Kobe-fan-boy friends all noticed Kobe's left leg only landings years before the video of it was made. its hard to miss if you watched Kobe game-in and game-out. Kobe was awesome and always put on a great show when he came 1 time per year to Toronto. In today's NBA he'd probably be encouraged to take a "rest day". | ||
Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
After watching that, I became more conscious in watching landing mechanics of players after layups and dunks. From my non-comprehensive observation, none consistently have what that video would call a good landing mechanics of landing with the ball first. Carter, Jordan, Barkley, Duncan, Shaq, Sonics Ray Allen, Iverson, and a few others have bad landing mechanics, but it really didn't cause significant injuries similar to Kobe's. Maybe it's a factor (I doubt the creator of the video is a physiotherapist or whatever medical professional is knowledgeable in landing mechanics), but it is not THE factor. | ||
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