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On February 02 2016 07:12 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2016 06:40 GlowingBear wrote:IS DYH A PEBBLE IN OUR INTERNET CONNECTION? - AN ESSAY BY URSO BRILHANTE Although technology evolves exponentially, many still suffer from internet connection problems. Some may say that the problem resides on greedy hosts, others say that the lack of maintance of the cables is to blame. But isn't there something we are forgetting? Aren't we forgetting the evil that lives inside men's hearts and that some may not try to contain it? I think some of our problems resides on the ill hearted. The ones that wants to play Counter-Strike and doesn't have the ability to terminate the enemy, so they make them lag with package bombing and shoot them while there's nothing the victim can do. Or the guy that is ready to drop a Starcraft player that timed out. Finally, the one that makes people's forums to not load properly so they can't find Mafia. I believe that it is the case of DoYouHas. DoYouHas isn't trying to lynch Mafia. He is more concerned in being read town and calls people out as Mafia for reasons that doesn't make anyone Mafia. Let's see some reasons why DYH is Mafia: 1) Because he gave the potato to Onegu without thinking about it. Why do you give and item right away to someone else? We all know that the potato deals 1kp to anyone who is holding it at EoD. So one reason to give it right away is to survive. Although a townie could be one behind trying to survive, we all know that the survival instinct is part of the Mafia traits. Even if a town doesn't want to hold the potato, afraid it might kill him, he probably doesn't give it right away to anyone. He will probably search for a scummy person to kill instead of just getting rid of it. Also, if it deals a kp, he could've just wait until EOD until the very last second to give the potato and kill someone he finds scummy. The lack of awareness shows even more his need to survive. 2) If VA got the potato then DYH lied about the potato mechanic because VA never posted "grab potato" in the thread. So DYH lied about how he interpreted the mechanics and how he should deal with the potato because he was afraid to get flak for the way he handled the item. 3) He went back in time to get the switcheroo when he thought it changed roles. He could do it for two reasons: A) because his role sucks (and it doesn't - his role is actually very good and he could get back in time to more important things for town) B) because he is Mafia and if he changes role with a town he insta wins the game because he knows every single Mafia in the game. 4) He called VA Mafia for lying when his lie didn't have a clear Mafia motivation behind it. Lying isn't exclusive for Mafia unless the lie has a clear Mafia motivation behind it. And I see no plan behind VA's lie. The lack of plan and the lack of malicious intent points out to VA being town or joker, but not Mafia. With all that said, I infer that DYH is indeed a pebble in our internet connection and we must get rid of him if we aspire to not go back to times where porn took days to be downloaded. #nomorelag ~ Urso Brilhante 1) NAI. Both want to survive and I was the only one he could give it to at the time. Second it proves he wasnt lying about what the potato did. 2) Yeah VA did or I couldnt have given it to VA. 3) NAI. Bad use of his role imo but not scummy. 4) Closed set up lying about what something does is much worse when it cant be verified.
Do you think he is town?
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On February 02 2016 07:16 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2016 07:12 Onegu wrote:On February 02 2016 06:40 GlowingBear wrote:IS DYH A PEBBLE IN OUR INTERNET CONNECTION? - AN ESSAY BY URSO BRILHANTE Although technology evolves exponentially, many still suffer from internet connection problems. Some may say that the problem resides on greedy hosts, others say that the lack of maintance of the cables is to blame. But isn't there something we are forgetting? Aren't we forgetting the evil that lives inside men's hearts and that some may not try to contain it? I think some of our problems resides on the ill hearted. The ones that wants to play Counter-Strike and doesn't have the ability to terminate the enemy, so they make them lag with package bombing and shoot them while there's nothing the victim can do. Or the guy that is ready to drop a Starcraft player that timed out. Finally, the one that makes people's forums to not load properly so they can't find Mafia. I believe that it is the case of DoYouHas. DoYouHas isn't trying to lynch Mafia. He is more concerned in being read town and calls people out as Mafia for reasons that doesn't make anyone Mafia. Let's see some reasons why DYH is Mafia: 1) Because he gave the potato to Onegu without thinking about it. Why do you give and item right away to someone else? We all know that the potato deals 1kp to anyone who is holding it at EoD. So one reason to give it right away is to survive. Although a townie could be one behind trying to survive, we all know that the survival instinct is part of the Mafia traits. Even if a town doesn't want to hold the potato, afraid it might kill him, he probably doesn't give it right away to anyone. He will probably search for a scummy person to kill instead of just getting rid of it. Also, if it deals a kp, he could've just wait until EOD until the very last second to give the potato and kill someone he finds scummy. The lack of awareness shows even more his need to survive. 2) If VA got the potato then DYH lied about the potato mechanic because VA never posted "grab potato" in the thread. So DYH lied about how he interpreted the mechanics and how he should deal with the potato because he was afraid to get flak for the way he handled the item. 3) He went back in time to get the switcheroo when he thought it changed roles. He could do it for two reasons: A) because his role sucks (and it doesn't - his role is actually very good and he could get back in time to more important things for town) B) because he is Mafia and if he changes role with a town he insta wins the game because he knows every single Mafia in the game. 4) He called VA Mafia for lying when his lie didn't have a clear Mafia motivation behind it. Lying isn't exclusive for Mafia unless the lie has a clear Mafia motivation behind it. And I see no plan behind VA's lie. The lack of plan and the lack of malicious intent points out to VA being town or joker, but not Mafia. With all that said, I infer that DYH is indeed a pebble in our internet connection and we must get rid of him if we aspire to not go back to times where porn took days to be downloaded. #nomorelag ~ Urso Brilhante 1) NAI. Both want to survive and I was the only one he could give it to at the time. Second it proves he wasnt lying about what the potato did. 2) Yeah VA did or I couldnt have given it to VA. 3) NAI. Bad use of his role imo but not scummy. 4) Closed set up lying about what something does is much worse when it cant be verified. Do you think he is town?
Yeah, at this point most likely town
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I see you have followed up you bad reason for calling me scum with an even more awful case.
On February 01 2016 23:27 GlowingBear wrote: Reasons I think DYH is Mafia:
1) because he gave the potato to Onegu without thinking about it. He potentially had an item he could use on EoD to deal a kp on who he thought was Mafia, but his first reaction was to give the time away to the first person he saw in the thread.
2) if VA go the potato then DYH lied about the potato mechanic because VA never posted "grab potato" in the thread. So DYH lied about how he dealt with the potato because he was afraid to get flak for the way he handled the item.
3) he went back in time to get the switcher oo when he thought it changed roles. He could do it for two reasons: A) because his role sucks (and it doesn't - his role is actually very good and he could get back in time to more important things for town) B) becase he is Mafia and if he changes role with a town he insta wins the game because he knows every single Mafia in the game.
4) He called VA Mafia for lying when his lie didn't have a clear Mafia motivation behind it.
I can see no other reason to go back in time to grab an item that supposedly switches roles
1) You clearly aren't even trying to understand how the potato works. Onegu confirmed my description was accurate. It also doesn't matter what my read on Onegu at the time was. I know my role 100%, getting the KP off me and onto someone who has a chance of being mafia is always the right play. (Side note, this is true if I am mafia as well, which is why I told you it is truly NAI. The only conclusion you can make based off me handing the potato to Onegu is that it is very unlikely that we are a scumteam.)
2) Blatantly false. Post #89 On January 31 2016 12:38 VayneAuthority wrote: ##take potato
3) You came up with two terrible reasons, and they are hardly the only option. Thing you should know: I could not use my ability to save myself. Meaning the votes on me incentivize me to use it before the lynch. Not to mention risking getting shot tonight.
Scenario A: My role is awesome, and while my use of it was not the ideal scenario of bring back a townie killed by mafia, my plan in using my power was also pretty awesome. I was going to, at minimum, confirm two townies or confirm one townie and give a guaranteed scum lynch for day1 by using the swaperoo.
Scenario B: Your assumption is that me, as Mafia, would play against my own wincon. That the hosts would allow me the option to ruin the game like that. Why do I even have to explain how horrible this is?
4) VA has admitted to lying constantly. VA has admitted to being mafia. I have already outlined why we cannot trust anything coming from VA, and then I PROVED that he couldn't be trusted by exposing a direct lie. WHY IS THIS HARD FOR YOU?
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On February 02 2016 07:14 Koshi wrote: I'll let Onegu decide who we lynch.
##Vote Mayor: Onegu
Thanks
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Onegu, I also feel like you are mostly likely town. I've still got the ability to move this potato around and we need to discuss.
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hmm. killing another person sounds like fun.
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On February 02 2016 07:24 DoYouHas wrote: Onegu, I also feel like you are mostly likely town. I've still got the ability to move this potato around and we need to discuss.
I wouldnt mind getting rid of boxer or zyrre as they arent doing anything for us to get a read on at all...
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I kinda think there really is only 1 mafia tbh. Otherwise n1 this could be over. lol.
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On February 02 2016 07:28 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2016 07:24 DoYouHas wrote: Onegu, I also feel like you are mostly likely town. I've still got the ability to move this potato around and we need to discuss. I wouldnt mind getting rid of boxer or zyrre as they arent doing anything for us to get a read on at all... hahahaha
It's like voting D. Trump.
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What is your stance on Freedom and Liberty, Onegu? Do you hate it?
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On February 02 2016 07:28 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2016 07:24 DoYouHas wrote: Onegu, I also feel like you are mostly likely town. I've still got the ability to move this potato around and we need to discuss. I wouldnt mind getting rid of boxer or zyrre as they arent doing anything for us to get a read on at all...
I'm happy to hear you say boxer. Scumleaned him early and haven't seen a reason to change that opinion. Zyrre is confirmed town already and has been removed from the game.
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Can you explain that scumlean?
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On February 02 2016 07:30 DoYouHas wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2016 07:28 Onegu wrote:On February 02 2016 07:24 DoYouHas wrote: Onegu, I also feel like you are mostly likely town. I've still got the ability to move this potato around and we need to discuss. I wouldnt mind getting rid of boxer or zyrre as they arent doing anything for us to get a read on at all... I'm happy to hear you say boxer. Scumleaned him early and haven't seen a reason to change that opinion. Zyrre is confirmed town already and has been removed from the game.
Oh yeah. Boxer then
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On February 02 2016 07:29 Koshi wrote: What is your stance on Freedom and Liberty, Onegu? Do you hate it?
I am 100% voting for Trump. Ez Life.
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On February 02 2016 07:32 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2016 07:29 Koshi wrote: What is your stance on Freedom and Liberty, Onegu? Do you hate it? I am 100% voting for Trump. Ez Life. You are a true Hero. I applaud you.
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On February 02 2016 07:21 DoYouHas wrote:I see you have followed up you bad reason for calling me scum with an even more awful case. Show nested quote +On February 01 2016 23:27 GlowingBear wrote: Reasons I think DYH is Mafia:
1) because he gave the potato to Onegu without thinking about it. He potentially had an item he could use on EoD to deal a kp on who he thought was Mafia, but his first reaction was to give the time away to the first person he saw in the thread.
2) if VA go the potato then DYH lied about the potato mechanic because VA never posted "grab potato" in the thread. So DYH lied about how he dealt with the potato because he was afraid to get flak for the way he handled the item.
3) he went back in time to get the switcher oo when he thought it changed roles. He could do it for two reasons: A) because his role sucks (and it doesn't - his role is actually very good and he could get back in time to more important things for town) B) becase he is Mafia and if he changes role with a town he insta wins the game because he knows every single Mafia in the game.
4) He called VA Mafia for lying when his lie didn't have a clear Mafia motivation behind it.
I can see no other reason to go back in time to grab an item that supposedly switches roles 1) You clearly aren't even trying to understand how the potato works. Onegu confirmed my description was accurate. It also doesn't matter what my read on Onegu at the time was. I know my role 100%, getting the KP off me and onto someone who has a chance of being mafia is always the right play. (Side note, this is true if I am mafia as well, which is why I told you it is truly NAI. The only conclusion you can make based off me handing the potato to Onegu is that it is very unlikely that we are a scumteam.) 2) Blatantly false. Post #89 3) You came up with two terrible reasons, and they are hardly the only option. Thing you should know: I could not use my ability to save myself. Meaning the votes on me incentivize me to use it before the lynch. Not to mention risking getting shot tonight. Scenario A: My role is awesome, and while my use of it was not the ideal scenario of bring back a townie killed by mafia, my plan in using my power was also pretty awesome. I was going to, at minimum, confirm two townies or confirm one townie and give a guaranteed scum lynch for day1 by using the swaperoo. Scenario B: Your assumption is that me, as Mafia, would play against my own wincon. That the hosts would allow me the option to ruin the game like that. Why do I even have to explain how horrible this is? 4) VA has admitted to lying constantly. VA has admitted to being mafia. I have already outlined why we cannot trust anything coming from VA, and then I PROVED that he couldn't be trusted by exposing a direct lie. WHY IS THIS HARD FOR YOU?
Meh, okay, you're right
Let's lynch the joker, then
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GB are you mafia with VA? If not, why?
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On February 01 2016 04:39 DoYouHas wrote: @ Vivax, you don't find BF's reasoning to jumping on me suspicious? What exactly was I derailing? Seemed like an invented reason to me.
Essentially, it felt to me like he entered the thread inventing a BS reason to scum me. Hasn't done anything after that to make him town.
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Also. I better get an item sooner or later. This is ridiculous.
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On February 02 2016 07:34 Koshi wrote: GB are you mafia with VA? If not, why?
No. Because I'm not Mafia.
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