I'll explain it in detail later on a PC, in short I think you are saying he said things that he didn't actually say.
For example he didn't actually call rsoul mafia.
I'll give you clear thoughts in some hours after work.
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ruXxar
Norway5668 Posts
August 07 2015 10:29 GMT
#1001
On August 07 2015 18:55 Rels wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2015 18:14 Rels wrote: OK explain to me why it was good 'cause I found it pretty bad. ? I'll explain it in detail later on a PC, in short I think you are saying he said things that he didn't actually say. For example he didn't actually call rsoul mafia. I'll give you clear thoughts in some hours after work. | ||
raynpelikoneet
Finland43156 Posts
August 07 2015 10:31 GMT
#1002
On August 07 2015 18:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: like the fact that he said he doesn't know what to think and then he votes for iGrok in the next sentence is pure mafia. | ||
ruXxar
Norway5668 Posts
August 07 2015 10:38 GMT
#1003
On August 07 2015 19:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: but he is mafia because of this: Show nested quote + On August 07 2015 18:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: like the fact that he said he doesn't know what to think and then he votes for iGrok in the next sentence is pure mafia. Don't see how you interpreted his words that way. What I see is a person weighing two options and going with the one he liked best. | ||
Rels
France13467 Posts
August 07 2015 10:44 GMT
#1004
On August 07 2015 19:29 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2015 18:55 Rels wrote: On August 07 2015 18:12 ruXxar wrote: His rebuttal to rsoul was really good. On August 07 2015 18:14 Rels wrote: OK explain to me why it was good 'cause I found it pretty bad. ? For example he didn't actually call rsoul mafia.. No he said she was pushing for a mislynch, which is a soft scum accusation: On August 07 2015 16:17 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: There is a breakdown in thought process here and it looks like you were just happy to jump onto a mislynch wagon. Which is why I asked him to clarify: On August 07 2015 16:28 Rels wrote: @edgar what is your read on rsoultin ? On August 07 2015 16:39 Rels wrote: Before you go: do you think rsoul is scum ? He didn't answer but he answered another question posted after. | ||
raynpelikoneet
Finland43156 Posts
August 07 2015 11:42 GMT
#1005
see you guys on sunday and occasionally before lynch edgar, or yamato. | ||
ruXxar
Norway5668 Posts
August 07 2015 12:18 GMT
#1006
On August 07 2015 19:44 Rels wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2015 19:29 ruXxar wrote: On August 07 2015 18:55 Rels wrote: On August 07 2015 18:12 ruXxar wrote: His rebuttal to rsoul was really good. On August 07 2015 18:14 Rels wrote: OK explain to me why it was good 'cause I found it pretty bad. ? For example he didn't actually call rsoul mafia.. No he said she was pushing for a mislynch, which is a soft scum accusation: Show nested quote + On August 07 2015 16:17 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: There is a breakdown in thought process here and it looks like you were just happy to jump onto a mislynch wagon. Which is why I asked him to clarify: He didn't answer but he answered another question posted after. I also want him to answer, but I think he is less likely to be mafia than Yamato. I really don't feel good about lynching him right now. | ||
KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 07 2015 13:04 GMT
#1007
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 07 2015 13:24 GMT
#1008
On August 07 2015 16:17 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2015 08:08 rsoultin wrote: On August 07 2015 07:38 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: On August 07 2015 04:09 rsoultin wrote: On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: Unfortunately this game will not work for me without filters. I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing but then I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse. ##vote iGrok I will not be very active at all. I'm also going to note that I'm a bit wary of Damdred and Kelsier. this is a general sheeple post yes i agree with rayn that it's awkward wording, "impasse" but you vote on grok why do you single me out, since we're asking why questions today? you managed to sheeple the opinion of ruxx who you're also wary of, didn't present a read on me, cited reasons: coatchingesque <- my read, and bad case <- ruxx's read...but didn't go into how that made him scum? hint: bad cases don't make people scum how as his case bad? what was coatchingesque and how does that make him scum? and you also incorporated two excuses into your one and only post 1. don't blame you for being awful cause no filters 2. not going to be active I applaud you for being able to summarise my post with a longer word count than the original post but this does not answer my question in the slightest and I honestly do not know how you think it does. If you town read ruxxar and the first post I made in this game is sheeping both your town read's reasons and your own then how do I end up as your top scum read. Furthermore, you cite that I put inactivity excuses into my "one and only post" but then that entirely validates the excuse when it's my only post, yet, you treat Yamato who actually has no excuses for being afk and in fact said he'd play as a "meh, dunno he's probably at work" read. The difference between those two reads in the original post I quoted is quite astonishing. okay, let's try this again how is igrok's case bad? what was "coatchingesque" and how does that make him scum? and, again...i love repeating myself...just because you parrot ruxxy and myself doesn't give you a free town pass. it means you can parrot. whoopdeedoo yamato is right there with you in my preferred lynch club answer the questions I don't know if there is somehow a breakdown in English which you quite clearly can read but how does any of that answer my question at all? You have simply repeated questions towards me that are irrelevant since you and ruxxar are the people I was "parroting". I will make this as plain and simple as I can for you. Since my post is just a parrot of YOUR points and your town read's points, why am I your top mafia read? Show nested quote + On August 07 2015 01:14 rsoultin wrote: On August 07 2015 01:10 iGrok wrote: Ok, so you're saying, "Do you find it interesting that RS has the same read of TS as you?" I don't really, because RS's reads seem to be mostly sheeped off other people. which ones? some of them i'm pretty certain i made first, and regardless, how does it make me scum to have the same reads as others? Apparently you think having the same reads and sheeping does not make people mafia so why is it different for me? Furthermore, why am I the top of your scum reads when all I've done is parrot you but Yamato isn't when you say he's playing exactly like his mafia meta? There is a breakdown in thought process here and it looks like you were just happy to jump onto a mislynch wagon. ... you are basically asserting two things: 1. mafia cannot use other people's reasons that they've read in the thread to make reads - do i really have to explain how this isn't true? 2. i should townread anyone who has the same opinions i do - uhhhh, no. i can be wrong. mafia can buss your line of thinking is bad. your push/argumentation in this direction is irrelevant, because you keep repeating that i should for whatever reason not be scumreading you based on these two false! assertions i did not spell it out because i generally assume (especially given the pretty, long words you've been using) that people aren't morons until proven otherwise. if you're halfway intelligent you should already get what i'm saying i do not find it townie for someone's one and only post to express that much uncertainty while blatantly sheeping not just a read but the exact reasons for a read you proceeded to do it again with your pretty "false dichotomies" bit, which focused in on rayn's questioning of igrok's reasoning the next time i have seen nothing original from you except for the assertions toward me that i highlighted above where you keep insisting that i should be townreading you and somehow miss that yamato is my second preferred lynch...you are acting like i'm townreading him lol >< which is clearly not the case i asked you the questions because you parroted ruxxar and myself and i want you to explain: 1. why the case that you said was bad is bad 2. what exactly he said was "coatchingesque" and why that makes him scum because i want to see if you actually believe these things. i want to know your thought process when you made these blanket statements to see if they're anything but just blatant plagiarism it's amazing that you don't understand what the problem is and that you keep dodging something this simple to answer. you said the words. why can't you elaborate? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 07 2015 13:33 GMT
#1009
the only actual original thought i've seen that isn't blatantly stealing others' ideas is a horribly fallacious assertion that tina should townread anyone who agrees with her, which is a ridiculously stupid point to not only bring up but continuously push answer why you're saying what you said so i can judge whether any part of those reads were made independent of other players posting in the thread ^^ | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 07 2015 13:41 GMT
#1010
On August 07 2015 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: okay now i gtg. see you guys on sunday and occasionally before lynch edgar, or yamato. ye i'm still onboard with this @ruxx what exactly is good about edgar's posting? | ||
Alakaslam
United States17315 Posts
August 07 2015 14:11 GMT
#1011
Since Xata's vote counter is actually pretty bamcis, find a post from the person you are voting and then format your votes exactly like that so it registers. When I am at a PC later this morning, I will go through and redo the counter with your names done correctly, and will update the front page as well. | ||
Damdred
15669 Posts
August 07 2015 14:34 GMT
#1012
I'd sorta be ok with Scott, Yamato and maybe Edgar I'm not so sure about the last one anymore. | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 07 2015 14:49 GMT
#1013
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Damdred
15669 Posts
August 07 2015 14:52 GMT
#1014
I could see town doing this to though is the only thing. Yamato might be a better lynch or even grok who has went back to lurker land | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 07 2015 15:00 GMT
#1015
i have a hard time...how to phrase this? words like "dichotomy", "impasse", "applaud", "cite", "validate", "appease", "formulaic" i see words like this and they make me think that either he is quite intelligent but still drawing conclusions that should be obviously awful to people of the intelligence he's trying to project or he's prettying up his posts to seem more reasonable by using words like these there's a chance he's town trying to play up his intelligence by using big words, but why? what's he actually saying or pushing with it? dunnae it makes me itchy. the pieces don't match. not sure how to explain this any better @.@ | ||
Damdred
15669 Posts
August 07 2015 15:10 GMT
#1016
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Rels
France13467 Posts
August 07 2015 15:14 GMT
#1017
- yamato (if he continue to AFK or if his posts are bad) - scott (if he continues to AFK or if his reasons to vote ruxx are bad) - maybe igrok (if he still lurks at EOD) - maaaaaybe cake (she would have to scumslip though) Would absolutely lynch edgar if deadline was now. Still waiting for an explanation of that: On August 07 2015 18:12 ruXxar wrote: His rebuttal to rsoul was really good. And this: On August 07 2015 05:58 Rels wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2015 01:07 scott31337 wrote: On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: Unfortunately this game will not work for me without filters. I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing but then I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse. ##vote iGrok I will not be very active at all. I'm also going to note that I'm a bit wary of Damdred and Kelsier. This post is pretty bad. I'm working without them as well - it kind of sucks, but.. You can always get TL+ FF has looked better, describing his Ruxxar read in so my words. KSC has looked slightly better - he gets a slight lean. My townies are townreading Rsoul though - a pass today for sure when EAP and Ruxxar look a lot worse. I have more pages to go thru and work as well. That's right I have to revote ##Vote: Ruxxar Are your reasons for voting ruxxar the same as before ? Hope you finish to go though "more pages" soon so you can start discussing things with people. @Damdred: would love an in depth explanation of why edgar's post are decent. | ||
Rels
France13467 Posts
August 07 2015 15:16 GMT
#1018
On August 07 2015 16:43 Rels wrote: It doesn't make sense. 1 - Edgar thinks ruxxar is scummy Show nested quote + On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing 2 - Edgar thinks ruxxar is right though: igrok is pushing for rsoul's mislynch Edgar is voting igrok based on ruxxar's read, which is that igrok is pushing rsoultin's mislynch: Show nested quote + On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse. He reaffirmed here that was part of the reason of his vote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2015 07:51 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: my read on igrok was based on mine + ruxxar's opinions 3 - Edgar thinks rsoul is happy pushing for his mislynch And now he's saying rsoultin may be mafia pushing for a mislynch: Show nested quote + On August 07 2015 16:17 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: There is a breakdown in thought process here and it looks like you [rsoul] were just happy to jump onto a mislynch wagon. So he believes at the same time: - ruxxar is scummy - ruxxar is right, igrok is scummy for pushing rsoul's mislynch - rsoul is pushing for edgar's mislynch This guy is mafia. On August 07 2015 16:46 Rels wrote: Plus: - he's not talking to anyone except rsoul - he's not talking about anything else in the game - he answered my second question but not he first, maybe he doesn't want to say too mych that could incriminate him - another excuse to lurk and survived the day with 9 posts On August 06 2015 17:35 Rels wrote: Show nested quote + On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: Unfortunately this game will not work for me without filters. I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing but then I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse. ##vote iGrok I will not be very active at all. I'm also going to note that I'm a bit wary of Damdred and Kelsier. This post is super scummy. The vote does not make sense with the reasonning. PLUS, it is the first post of EAP. And he talks about different things, as if he didn't know what to post in his first post: 1 - whining about filters 2 - reads 3 - vote igrok 4 - will no be active 5 - wary of Damdred and Kelsier Talking about different subjects in his first post is scum indicative, 'cause it means EAP had difficulties entering the thread. PLUS he does not explain why Damdred and KSC are weird. PLUS setting up to not be active in a all vanille setup. On August 07 2015 18:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: like the fact that he said he doesn't know what to think and then he votes for iGrok in the next sentence is pure mafia. | ||
ruXxar
Norway5668 Posts
August 07 2015 15:31 GMT
#1019
On August 07 2015 22:41 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2015 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: okay now i gtg. see you guys on sunday and occasionally before lynch edgar, or yamato. ye i'm still onboard with this @ruxx what exactly is good about edgar's posting? I liked his rebuttal against rsoultin because it makes sense. rsoultin shouldn't try to lynch people that agree with her opinion. If she's confident in her ability to find scum, then she shouldnt want to lynch those that agree with her because they're helping her push through her lynches. So what if it's a bus? a dead mafia is a dead mafia, bus or no bus. | ||
KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 07 2015 15:32 GMT
#1020
I don't think his early play is scummy, people have different styles and his is mechanical , his thing about rsol...well he isn't really the first to have issues with how rsol posts/plays. It's probably a clash of styles or ideas. I've been in his position where it just looks like she is spouting nonsense into the thread and until you get used to it it just looks nonsensical. He has been around giving thoughts and I agree with some of it. and there are better lynches Scott or Eap are good lynches | ||
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