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On March 21 2015 05:40 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 05:39 Palmar wrote:On March 21 2015 05:38 Toadesstern wrote:On March 21 2015 05:36 Palmar wrote: why did Toad even counterclaim, couldn't he just find an alternative lynch and shoot vivax in the night? I have a 100% confirmed mafia in Vivax that I can 1-1 trade with. You're telling me you wouldn't go for that? Sure you would. You would step 1: Shut the fuck up. step 2: murder him in the night. See, dead mafia! Or I tell people to not leave Vivax, get a mafia lynched and still shoot into mafia in the night and mafia has to KP as well as RB me? Yeah that's a terrible plan.
Well if you're town you got us a 1 for 1! Grats. Sorry you're going to have to be the first 1 though.
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On March 21 2015 05:44 Superbia wrote: Am I the only one who currently thinks that the most likely scenario is that they're both town? I'm coming around...I just don't know about having 2 drax in the game with the Orb being a thing.
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On March 21 2015 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 05:44 Superbia wrote: Am I the only one who currently thinks that the most likely scenario is that they're both town? yeah you are. that's fucking stupid.
Is it??? This exact fucking scenario happened in another game I was in and I remembering people shouting at the end of the game that it was town's fault for assuming there are only a single instance of that role. It was 2 Roleblockers CCing eachother d1. They were both town. They were both RB.
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On March 21 2015 05:45 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 05:44 Superbia wrote: Am I the only one who currently thinks that the most likely scenario is that they're both town? I'm coming around...I just don't know about having 2 drax in the game with the Orb being a thing.
it would be such a trolly setup, 2 vigi and orb. I don't believe it's possible
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On March 21 2015 05:45 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 05:44 Palmar wrote: Like everyone is stupid and don't realize cc-ing as a vig is a dumb-as-fuck play, there is a chance Toad is stupid like everyone else. I haven't read back but if me pointing this out is the first person to say it there is also a chance that Toad simply didn't think of it.
Then again, I'm rolling the dice on Toad. I'm just hedging. CCing as vig might be dumb as fuck (though idk if I agree), but CCing vig As mafia is infinitely dumber. In what world does mafia toad CC vig? It makes 0 sense. NO IT IS NOT IF YOU ARE GETTING LYNCHED!!!
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Meeeehhhhhhhhhhhhh..........
I don't know what to do. I feel like this situation could resolve itself in the night though. Is everyone against that?
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On March 21 2015 05:44 Superbia wrote: Am I the only one who currently thinks that the most likely scenario is that they're both town? No that's super unlikely.
You can't mess around with KP roles in terms of balance as you can with normal roles. Mafia doesn't have a single defensive role (doc, vet) so no. I don't think we have a double percy situation here.
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##vote Vivax
eh i'm going with my gut lol
i don't know that i believe rayn, honestly, but i'm not gonna lynch him today
toad, seriously, if you're VT CCing viva just to get him lynched you need to come clean now. i really kinda hate how often people fake-claim even as town >< but i really, really do not see a scum fake claim in this situation, stupid move or not
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On March 21 2015 05:45 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 05:44 Palmar wrote: Like everyone is stupid and don't realize cc-ing as a vig is a dumb-as-fuck play, there is a chance Toad is stupid like everyone else. I haven't read back but if me pointing this out is the first person to say it there is also a chance that Toad simply didn't think of it.
Then again, I'm rolling the dice on Toad. I'm just hedging. CCing as vig might be dumb as fuck (though idk if I agree), but CCing vig As mafia is infinitely dumber. In what world does mafia toad CC vig? It makes 0 sense.
So the conclusion is that Toad is dumb?
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On March 21 2015 05:46 VisceraEyes wrote: Meeeehhhhhhhhhhhhh..........
I don't know what to do. I feel like this situation could resolve itself in the night though. Is everyone against that?
It's not resolving in the night. I went over the scenarios in my head real quick, but mafia RB fucks night resolution over pretty hard I think.
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On March 21 2015 05:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 05:45 ExO_ wrote:On March 21 2015 05:44 Palmar wrote: Like everyone is stupid and don't realize cc-ing as a vig is a dumb-as-fuck play, there is a chance Toad is stupid like everyone else. I haven't read back but if me pointing this out is the first person to say it there is also a chance that Toad simply didn't think of it.
Then again, I'm rolling the dice on Toad. I'm just hedging. CCing as vig might be dumb as fuck (though idk if I agree), but CCing vig As mafia is infinitely dumber. In what world does mafia toad CC vig? It makes 0 sense. NO IT IS NOT IF YOU ARE GETTING LYNCHED!!!
But Toad isn't getting lynched today if he keeps his mouth shut. That's the difference here. Why even CC, he could easily just back off of Vivax for a day and not die, if he was mafia
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On March 21 2015 05:44 Palmar wrote: Like everyone is stupid and don't realize cc-ing as a vig is a dumb-as-fuck play, there is a chance Toad is stupid like everyone else. I haven't read back but if me pointing this out is the first person to say it there is also a chance that Toad simply didn't think of it.
Then again, I'm rolling the dice on Toad. I'm just hedging.
You are the first person. Here's what happened, but go read it yourself:
1) Vivax (fake)claims Vig shortly before deadlien for maximum confusion 2) I tell people to stop taking it seriously because vig can be fakeclaimed by anyone. There's no alignment cop, mafia can even fake it without being vig themselves 3) I tell people to get the fuck back on Vivax because his claim is bullshit 4) Noone cares and people unvote people 5) I am furious knowing that I am vig myself and won't let him get out of this one. He literally claimed mafia
Now I know you hate me but if you want to look even ever so slightly townish go stop that bullshit of yours and vote Vivax.
Typing this out on the slim chance of me actually being wrong about you being mafia like everyone else seems to try and tell me....
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Like the best scenario is you lynch the counter claim, which is happneing here. The worst scenario is you (most likely) roleblock the vig and you have same fucking shit on D2.
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On March 21 2015 05:47 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 05:45 ExO_ wrote:On March 21 2015 05:44 Palmar wrote: Like everyone is stupid and don't realize cc-ing as a vig is a dumb-as-fuck play, there is a chance Toad is stupid like everyone else. I haven't read back but if me pointing this out is the first person to say it there is also a chance that Toad simply didn't think of it.
Then again, I'm rolling the dice on Toad. I'm just hedging. CCing as vig might be dumb as fuck (though idk if I agree), but CCing vig As mafia is infinitely dumber. In what world does mafia toad CC vig? It makes 0 sense. So the conclusion is that Toad is dumb?
The conclusion is that Toad isn't mafia, he's Vig and Vivax is either scum, or we had a really trolly 2 vigis in the game.
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On March 21 2015 05:47 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 05:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 21 2015 05:45 ExO_ wrote:On March 21 2015 05:44 Palmar wrote: Like everyone is stupid and don't realize cc-ing as a vig is a dumb-as-fuck play, there is a chance Toad is stupid like everyone else. I haven't read back but if me pointing this out is the first person to say it there is also a chance that Toad simply didn't think of it.
Then again, I'm rolling the dice on Toad. I'm just hedging. CCing as vig might be dumb as fuck (though idk if I agree), but CCing vig As mafia is infinitely dumber. In what world does mafia toad CC vig? It makes 0 sense. NO IT IS NOT IF YOU ARE GETTING LYNCHED!!! But Toad isn't getting lynched today if he keeps his mouth shut. That's the difference here. Why even CC, he could easily just back off of Vivax for a day and not die, if he was mafia Read my case on him. READ IT!
Are you mafia?
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On March 21 2015 05:47 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 05:46 VisceraEyes wrote: Meeeehhhhhhhhhhhhh..........
I don't know what to do. I feel like this situation could resolve itself in the night though. Is everyone against that? It's not resolving in the night. I went over the scenarios in my head real quick, but mafia RB fucks night resolution over pretty hard I think. Yeah and likely too with a tracker claim - it makes GF/Framer less liekly and RB more likely.
:/
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On March 21 2015 05:47 rsoultin wrote: ##vote Vivax
eh i'm going with my gut lol
i don't know that i believe rayn, honestly, but i'm not gonna lynch him today
toad, seriously, if you're VT CCing viva just to get him lynched you need to come clean now. i really kinda hate how often people fake-claim even as town >< but i really, really do not see a scum fake claim in this situation, stupid move or not I am not fakeclaiming as a VT. If I ever say such a thing go ahead and lynch me immediatly no questions asked.
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On March 21 2015 02:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 02:04 Toadesstern wrote: do I actually have to respond to Palmar and Rayn here in fears of the bullshit sticking somewhere or can I keep on reading the 25 pages I havn't read yet? Oh hey you made a scumcase on me while not even having to read the thread. gj scum.
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Yeah okay. I've thought rayn was town most of the day, maybe badly but whatever.
##Unvote ##Vote: Toadesstern
Sry Toad, if you're town you should have just let us lynch whoever and shot Vivax.
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On March 21 2015 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 05:47 ExO_ wrote:On March 21 2015 05:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 21 2015 05:45 ExO_ wrote:On March 21 2015 05:44 Palmar wrote: Like everyone is stupid and don't realize cc-ing as a vig is a dumb-as-fuck play, there is a chance Toad is stupid like everyone else. I haven't read back but if me pointing this out is the first person to say it there is also a chance that Toad simply didn't think of it.
Then again, I'm rolling the dice on Toad. I'm just hedging. CCing as vig might be dumb as fuck (though idk if I agree), but CCing vig As mafia is infinitely dumber. In what world does mafia toad CC vig? It makes 0 sense. NO IT IS NOT IF YOU ARE GETTING LYNCHED!!! But Toad isn't getting lynched today if he keeps his mouth shut. That's the difference here. Why even CC, he could easily just back off of Vivax for a day and not die, if he was mafia Read my case on him. READ IT! Are you mafia?
I haven't read your case (and I dont have time right now, gotta leave in 2 minutes). But Toad didn't have a train on him. And still doesn't. So why in the world would a mafia who has no train on him, CC Vivax, potentially getting himself killed?
Your case is irrelevant to this point.
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