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On January 03 2015 04:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote: What is my scum motivation for coming off geript? I'd like to kill him.on day 2, i was joking about thechyz earlier -_-
To keep a suicidal geript around d2 or longer to get another mislynch in if hes town? Or if you are scum together to save a scum buddy?
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On January 03 2015 04:33 justanothertownie wrote: Damdred I don't get it. There are several people on batsnacks who didn't really mention him earlier and you are going after Dr. H who like you just showed did?
and VE asked me a question about what i meant and it got me looking at dr h filter a bit
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On January 03 2015 04:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 04:32 Damdred wrote:On January 03 2015 04:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 03 2015 04:22 IAmRobik wrote: Artanis, what does your town list look like? I'm wondering f it is similar to minr Dr. H Koshi JAT (I feel like how he took up 'leadership' during the night was something he wouldn't do as scum on reconsideration)Palmar Kelsier Eden I'm also liking VE but it's too early to tell. That is the worst reason to town read JAT i've ever seen, there are other reasons to town read him. But if he rolls scum he picks up the leadership just as fast thats why hes the champ. I don't think so. He had a strong scumread on Geript. He'd only have a reason to switch to Bats if both him and Geript were scum, and if that were the case I don't think a scum JAT with this much influence would've allowed it to get to the wire like this. I find a scum JAT/Geript team very hard to imagine and thus see no reason for a scum JAT to take charge and avert a Geript lynch last second. This is a good post.
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On January 03 2015 04:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 04:22 IAmRobik wrote: Artanis, what does your town list look like? I'm wondering f it is similar to minr Dr. H Koshi JAT (I feel like how he took up 'leadership' during the night was something he wouldn't do as scum on reconsideration) Palmar Kelsier Eden I'm also liking VE but it's too early to tell. Man, my list is really different from yours haha
I agree with DrH and Eden. I disagree on basically everyone else. Maybe koshi is but his "why can't you just just listen to me" felt forced and un-koshi-like.
JAT seemed to spend too much time playing nice with me which bothered me and his explanation wasn't really satisfying. He also quickly turned on me come night phase.
Plammmmar tried really hard in one post and didn't do dick for the rest of the day.
Kelseir is a huge fucking question mark for me. His posts are really weird. Not sure if scum or I just don't understand what he wants to say
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Robik, are you really telling me you don't have a read on me besides how I treated you?
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On January 03 2015 04:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 04:32 Damdred wrote:On January 03 2015 04:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 03 2015 04:22 IAmRobik wrote: Artanis, what does your town list look like? I'm wondering f it is similar to minr Dr. H Koshi JAT (I feel like how he took up 'leadership' during the night was something he wouldn't do as scum on reconsideration)Palmar Kelsier Eden I'm also liking VE but it's too early to tell. That is the worst reason to town read JAT i've ever seen, there are other reasons to town read him. But if he rolls scum he picks up the leadership just as fast thats why hes the champ. I don't think so. He had a strong scumread on Geript. He'd only have a reason to switch to Bats if both him and Geript were scum, and if that were the case I don't think a scum JAT with this much influence would've allowed it to get to the wire like this. I find a scum JAT/Geript team very hard to imagine and thus see no reason for a scum JAT to take charge and avert a Geript lynch last second. So I partially agree and partially disagree with this. I do not think that GERIPT and JAT are scum together. I even stated so towards end of day. That's why I didn't feel so bad sheepish jat onto bats. However I do think that JAT can make a case on bats and switch a lynxh off of geript onto bat for town cred. Basically to get you to clear him for what you're clearing him. "If I was mafia, why would I switch from one town to another town that I've been pushing all game". That's basically what I did on a 2p2 game with Yamato a couple months ago.
He could be town. I'm just saying why this isn't 100% correct
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On January 03 2015 04:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 04:32 Damdred wrote:On January 03 2015 04:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 03 2015 04:22 IAmRobik wrote: Artanis, what does your town list look like? I'm wondering f it is similar to minr Dr. H Koshi JAT (I feel like how he took up 'leadership' during the night was something he wouldn't do as scum on reconsideration)Palmar Kelsier Eden I'm also liking VE but it's too early to tell. That is the worst reason to town read JAT i've ever seen, there are other reasons to town read him. But if he rolls scum he picks up the leadership just as fast thats why hes the champ. I don't think so. He had a strong scumread on Geript. He'd only have a reason to switch to Bats if both him and Geript were scum, and if that were the case I don't think a scum JAT with this much influence would've allowed it to get to the wire like this. I find a scum JAT/Geript team very hard to imagine and thus see no reason for a scum JAT to take charge and avert a Geript lynch last second.
I won't argue with you that JAT is probably town here. and it is a good post.
So tell me what you think about what i wrote.
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On January 03 2015 04:42 justanothertownie wrote: Robik, are you really telling me you don't have a read on me besides how I treated you? I'm saying you are too happy this game with how the game is going.
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On January 03 2015 04:39 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 04:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 03 2015 04:22 IAmRobik wrote: Artanis, what does your town list look like? I'm wondering f it is similar to minr Dr. H Koshi JAT (I feel like how he took up 'leadership' during the night was something he wouldn't do as scum on reconsideration) Palmar Kelsier Eden I'm also liking VE but it's too early to tell. Man, my list is really different from yours haha I agree with DrH and Eden. I disagree on basically everyone else. Maybe koshi is but his "why can't you just just listen to me" felt forced and un-koshi-like. JAT seemed to spend too much time playing nice with me which bothered me and his explanation wasn't really satisfying. He also quickly turned on me come night phase. Plammmmar tried really hard in one post and didn't do dick for the rest of the day. Kelseir is a huge fucking question mark for me. His posts are really weird. Not sure if scum or I just don't understand what he wants to say I missed the Koshi post you're referring to. Can you quote it?
JAT is probably town, read above.
Plumber's one post secured a town hero spot for me. He hasn't really been here much otherwise so that's the only thing to judge him on. It was full of good stuff though, his read on Geript had solid reasoning and every opinion he had pretty much resonated with me, especially the one on me.
What I like about Kelsier that I remember is how he questioned me and someone else, I think it was sicklucker but I'm not sure for jumping on Chyz' bandwagon. Then when he asked us both a question he found my answer to be townie and re-evaluated, whereas I think he kept his other suspect. It showed a certain thoroughness I expect from town much more than from scum. He's generally been pretty inquisitive and seems to follow up on it which I like.
Is there anyone you townread that wasn't on my list?
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lol what? Where did you get that read from?
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On January 03 2015 04:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 04:39 IAmRobik wrote:On January 03 2015 04:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 03 2015 04:22 IAmRobik wrote: Artanis, what does your town list look like? I'm wondering f it is similar to minr Dr. H Koshi JAT (I feel like how he took up 'leadership' during the night was something he wouldn't do as scum on reconsideration) Palmar Kelsier Eden I'm also liking VE but it's too early to tell. Man, my list is really different from yours haha I agree with DrH and Eden. I disagree on basically everyone else. Maybe koshi is but his "why can't you just just listen to me" felt forced and un-koshi-like. JAT seemed to spend too much time playing nice with me which bothered me and his explanation wasn't really satisfying. He also quickly turned on me come night phase. Plammmmar tried really hard in one post and didn't do dick for the rest of the day. Kelseir is a huge fucking question mark for me. His posts are really weird. Not sure if scum or I just don't understand what he wants to say I missed the Koshi post you're referring to. Can you quote it? JAT is probably town, read above. Plumber's one post secured a town hero spot for me. He hasn't really been here much otherwise so that's the only thing to judge him on. It was full of good stuff though, his read on Geript had solid reasoning and every opinion he had pretty much resonated with me, especially the one on me. What I like about Kelsier that I remember is how he questioned me and someone else, I think it was sicklucker but I'm not sure for jumping on Chyz' bandwagon. Then when he asked us both a question he found my answer to be townie and re-evaluated, whereas I think he kept his other suspect. It showed a certain thoroughness I expect from town much more than from scum. He's generally been pretty inquisitive and seems to follow up on it which I like. Is there anyone you townread that wasn't on my list? It's not a single post-it's the entire outburst regarding not lunching vivax, whose alignment he can't know 100%
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On January 03 2015 04:45 justanothertownie wrote: lol what? Where did you get that read from? It's just how I read your posts. They don't seem angry or emotion-filled. They just seem bland like everything is ok
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On January 03 2015 04:47 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 04:45 justanothertownie wrote: lol what? Where did you get that read from? It's just how I read your posts. They don't seem angry or emotion-filled. They just seem bland like everything is ok Did you read anything that was posted during the night?
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@artanis, nope not really. Maybe Dandred. I had to look back at the player list. Everyone has been fairly scummy. Obv I think you're town too Game is hard, only 4 town vs 10 mafia.
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On January 03 2015 04:48 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 04:47 IAmRobik wrote:On January 03 2015 04:45 justanothertownie wrote: lol what? Where did you get that read from? It's just how I read your posts. They don't seem angry or emotion-filled. They just seem bland like everything is ok Did you read anything that was posted during the night? Ya. I've read mostly everything. If you're going to ask me to quote specific posts, I won't be able to. Like I said, it's just how I perceive your emotional state whole writing the posts.
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On January 03 2015 04:43 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 04:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 03 2015 04:32 Damdred wrote:On January 03 2015 04:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 03 2015 04:22 IAmRobik wrote: Artanis, what does your town list look like? I'm wondering f it is similar to minr Dr. H Koshi JAT (I feel like how he took up 'leadership' during the night was something he wouldn't do as scum on reconsideration)Palmar Kelsier Eden I'm also liking VE but it's too early to tell. That is the worst reason to town read JAT i've ever seen, there are other reasons to town read him. But if he rolls scum he picks up the leadership just as fast thats why hes the champ. I don't think so. He had a strong scumread on Geript. He'd only have a reason to switch to Bats if both him and Geript were scum, and if that were the case I don't think a scum JAT with this much influence would've allowed it to get to the wire like this. I find a scum JAT/Geript team very hard to imagine and thus see no reason for a scum JAT to take charge and avert a Geript lynch last second. So I partially agree and partially disagree with this. I do not think that GERIPT and JAT are scum together. I even stated so towards end of day. That's why I didn't feel so bad sheepish jat onto bats. However I do think that JAT can make a case on bats and switch a lynxh off of geript onto bat for town cred. Basically to get you to clear him for what you're clearing him. "If I was mafia, why would I switch from one town to another town that I've been pushing all game". That's basically what I did on a 2p2 game with Yamato a couple months ago. He could be town. I'm just saying why this isn't 100% correct Sure, it's possible, but the JAT I'm accustomed to is reactive. This was very proactive where it really wasn't necessary. He's been pretty much a universal townread for the town. Buying even more cred could actually be harmful to him later in the game as people will question why he's still alive.
On January 03 2015 04:44 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 04:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 03 2015 04:32 Damdred wrote:On January 03 2015 04:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 03 2015 04:22 IAmRobik wrote: Artanis, what does your town list look like? I'm wondering f it is similar to minr Dr. H Koshi JAT (I feel like how he took up 'leadership' during the night was something he wouldn't do as scum on reconsideration)Palmar Kelsier Eden I'm also liking VE but it's too early to tell. That is the worst reason to town read JAT i've ever seen, there are other reasons to town read him. But if he rolls scum he picks up the leadership just as fast thats why hes the champ. I don't think so. He had a strong scumread on Geript. He'd only have a reason to switch to Bats if both him and Geript were scum, and if that were the case I don't think a scum JAT with this much influence would've allowed it to get to the wire like this. I find a scum JAT/Geript team very hard to imagine and thus see no reason for a scum JAT to take charge and avert a Geript lynch last second. I won't argue with you that JAT is probably town here. and it is a good post. So tell me what you think about what i wrote. You mentioned how without the Chyz stuff his filter would look a lot less wordy, but that seems like a poor argument. He did make those posts and the amount of effort he's put into the game whilst never appearing disgenuine to me makes it so unlikely for him to be scum imo. That he went back on his word for not going for last minute shenanigans is worrisome, but in a completely different league compared to the arguments supporting a town Dr.H.
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On January 03 2015 04:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 04:43 IAmRobik wrote:On January 03 2015 04:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 03 2015 04:32 Damdred wrote:On January 03 2015 04:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 03 2015 04:22 IAmRobik wrote: Artanis, what does your town list look like? I'm wondering f it is similar to minr Dr. H Koshi JAT (I feel like how he took up 'leadership' during the night was something he wouldn't do as scum on reconsideration)Palmar Kelsier Eden I'm also liking VE but it's too early to tell. That is the worst reason to town read JAT i've ever seen, there are other reasons to town read him. But if he rolls scum he picks up the leadership just as fast thats why hes the champ. I don't think so. He had a strong scumread on Geript. He'd only have a reason to switch to Bats if both him and Geript were scum, and if that were the case I don't think a scum JAT with this much influence would've allowed it to get to the wire like this. I find a scum JAT/Geript team very hard to imagine and thus see no reason for a scum JAT to take charge and avert a Geript lynch last second. So I partially agree and partially disagree with this. I do not think that GERIPT and JAT are scum together. I even stated so towards end of day. That's why I didn't feel so bad sheepish jat onto bats. However I do think that JAT can make a case on bats and switch a lynxh off of geript onto bat for town cred. Basically to get you to clear him for what you're clearing him. "If I was mafia, why would I switch from one town to another town that I've been pushing all game". That's basically what I did on a 2p2 game with Yamato a couple months ago. He could be town. I'm just saying why this isn't 100% correct Sure, it's possible, but the JAT I'm accustomed to is reactive. This was very proactive where it really wasn't necessary. He's been pretty much a universal townread for the town. Buying even more cred could actually be harmful to him later in the game as people will question why he's still alive. Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 04:44 Damdred wrote:On January 03 2015 04:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 03 2015 04:32 Damdred wrote:On January 03 2015 04:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 03 2015 04:22 IAmRobik wrote: Artanis, what does your town list look like? I'm wondering f it is similar to minr Dr. H Koshi JAT (I feel like how he took up 'leadership' during the night was something he wouldn't do as scum on reconsideration)Palmar Kelsier Eden I'm also liking VE but it's too early to tell. That is the worst reason to town read JAT i've ever seen, there are other reasons to town read him. But if he rolls scum he picks up the leadership just as fast thats why hes the champ. I don't think so. He had a strong scumread on Geript. He'd only have a reason to switch to Bats if both him and Geript were scum, and if that were the case I don't think a scum JAT with this much influence would've allowed it to get to the wire like this. I find a scum JAT/Geript team very hard to imagine and thus see no reason for a scum JAT to take charge and avert a Geript lynch last second. I won't argue with you that JAT is probably town here. and it is a good post. So tell me what you think about what i wrote. You mentioned how without the Chyz stuff his filter would look a lot less wordy, but that seems like a poor argument. He did make those posts and the amount of effort he's put into the game whilst never appearing disgenuine to me makes it so unlikely for him to be scum imo. That he went back on his word for not going for last minute shenanigans is worrisome, but in a completely different league compared to the arguments supporting a town Dr.H.
Maybe I should drop it for now and work on someone else, i'd like other peoples opinions obviously.
However, everyone says he put so much work into the chy stuff when he showed one game that was somewhat different made two different cases and spammed the thread with the same stuff over and over again i'm not exactly sure how thats putting in maximum effort for the good of the town?
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On January 03 2015 04:50 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 04:48 justanothertownie wrote:On January 03 2015 04:47 IAmRobik wrote:On January 03 2015 04:45 justanothertownie wrote: lol what? Where did you get that read from? It's just how I read your posts. They don't seem angry or emotion-filled. They just seem bland like everything is ok Did you read anything that was posted during the night? Ya. I've read mostly everything. If you're going to ask me to quote specific posts, I won't be able to. Like I said, it's just how I perceive your emotional state whole writing the posts. No idea how you get that read. Absolutely no idea. And even if this was true it wouldn't be alignment indicative. It is very weird that this is all you have to show for your read on me after all that I have done this game.
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On January 03 2015 04:49 IAmRobik wrote: @artanis, nope not really. Maybe Dandred. I had to look back at the player list. Everyone has been fairly scummy. Obv I think you're town too Game is hard, only 4 town vs 10 mafia. I can get behind Damdred I guess, with some reservations. His suspects are kinda weird but he does seem to be prodding quite nicely and is pretty paranoid.
I just hope you, Marv and Luigi come out to play on D2.
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