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On January 03 2015 04:53 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 04:50 IAmRobik wrote:On January 03 2015 04:48 justanothertownie wrote:On January 03 2015 04:47 IAmRobik wrote:On January 03 2015 04:45 justanothertownie wrote:
lol what? Where did you get that read from? It's just how I read your posts. They don't seem angry or emotion-filled. They just seem bland like everything is ok Did you read anything that was posted during the night? Ya. I've read mostly everything. If you're going to ask me to quote specific posts, I won't be able to. Like I said, it's just how I perceive your emotional state whole writing the posts. No idea how you get that read. Absolutely no idea. And even if this was true it wouldn't be alignment indicative. It is very weird that this is all you have to show for your read on me after all that I have done this game.
Well, given my inability to play d1 since the game started on a fucking holiday-my favorite holiday of the year no less- I can only judge based off of eod1 and night phase. I sheeped you onto a town because it appeared my lynxh target wasn't happening, and it seemed like you took charge which was a good sign. It was clear that you were pushing Geripty and I don't see you as maf/maf so I felt comfortable following you. However, we did end up lynching a townie. We also ended up not lynching geript whose alignment is unknown. So if geript is scum, you're town but made a blunder. If he's town, you could be town for leading or scum for trying to get cred for if geript flips town you can say "why would I do that as scum"
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On January 03 2015 04:46 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 04:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 03 2015 04:39 IAmRobik wrote:On January 03 2015 04:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 03 2015 04:22 IAmRobik wrote:
Artanis, what does your town list look like? I'm wondering f it is similar to minr Dr. H Koshi JAT (I feel like how he took up 'leadership' during the night was something he wouldn't do as scum on reconsideration) Palmar Kelsier Eden I'm also liking VE but it's too early to tell. Man, my list is really different from yours haha I agree with DrH and Eden. I disagree on basically everyone else. Maybe koshi is but his "why can't you just just listen to me" felt forced and un-koshi-like. JAT seemed to spend too much time playing nice with me which bothered me and his explanation wasn't really satisfying. He also quickly turned on me come night phase. Plammmmar tried really hard in one post and didn't do dick for the rest of the day. Kelseir is a huge fucking question mark for me. His posts are really weird. Not sure if scum or I just don't understand what he wants to say I missed the Koshi post you're referring to. Can you quote it? JAT is probably town, read above. Plumber's one post secured a town hero spot for me. He hasn't really been here much otherwise so that's the only thing to judge him on. It was full of good stuff though, his read on Geript had solid reasoning and every opinion he had pretty much resonated with me, especially the one on me. What I like about Kelsier that I remember is how he questioned me and someone else, I think it was sicklucker but I'm not sure for jumping on Chyz' bandwagon. Then when he asked us both a question he found my answer to be townie and re-evaluated, whereas I think he kept his other suspect. It showed a certain thoroughness I expect from town much more than from scum. He's generally been pretty inquisitive and seems to follow up on it which I like. Is there anyone you townread that wasn't on my list? It's not a single post-it's the entire outburst regarding not lunching vivax, whose alignment he can't know 100%
I can see Koshi getting a bit overexcited over lunching Vivax. He was pretty passionate about it and I don't consider it scummy at all.
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On January 03 2015 04:58 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 04:53 justanothertownie wrote:On January 03 2015 04:50 IAmRobik wrote:On January 03 2015 04:48 justanothertownie wrote:On January 03 2015 04:47 IAmRobik wrote:On January 03 2015 04:45 justanothertownie wrote:
lol what? Where did you get that read from? It's just how I read your posts. They don't seem angry or emotion-filled. They just seem bland like everything is ok Did you read anything that was posted during the night? Ya. I've read mostly everything. If you're going to ask me to quote specific posts, I won't be able to. Like I said, it's just how I perceive your emotional state whole writing the posts. No idea how you get that read. Absolutely no idea. And even if this was true it wouldn't be alignment indicative. It is very weird that this is all you have to show for your read on me after all that I have done this game. Well, given my inability to play d1 since the game started on a fucking holiday-my favorite holiday of the year no less- I can only judge based off of eod1 and night phase. I sheeped you onto a town because it appeared my lynxh target wasn't happening, and it seemed like you took charge which was a good sign. It was clear that you were pushing Geripty and I don't see you as maf/maf so I felt comfortable following you. However, we did end up lynching a townie. We also ended up not lynching geript whose alignment is unknown. So if geript is scum, you're town but made a blunder. If he's town, you could be town for leading or scum for trying to get cred for if geript flips town you can say "why would I do that as scum"
Good job. You figured out I could theoretically be scum or town because of the lynch. That's not a read.
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On January 03 2015 04:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 04:49 IAmRobik wrote:
@artanis, nope not really. Maybe Dandred. I had to look back at the player list. Everyone has been fairly scummy. Obv I think you're town too Game is hard, only 4 town vs 10 mafia. I can get behind Damdred I guess, with some reservations. His suspects are kinda weird but he does seem to be prodding quite nicely and is pretty paranoid. I just hope you, Marv and Luigi come out to play on D2.
I think that even though my filter size was lacking, I still managed to give decent substantiated reads d1. Basically what you are saying about DrHamd what others are saying about him is something I articulated early on into the game. I don't recall all the reads I gave but I think they've been decently solid. I also think (wifom) that I wouldn't be as self-aware as I am regarding my play. I stated that I was more nervous of people TRing me than scum reading me because I think the people who are scum reading me are probably analyzing and thinking about the game more clearly than those who are TRing me. I am town, but the people giving me town reads are more likely doing it based off of TMI
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On January 03 2015 05:02 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 04:58 IAmRobik wrote:On January 03 2015 04:53 justanothertownie wrote:On January 03 2015 04:50 IAmRobik wrote:On January 03 2015 04:48 justanothertownie wrote:On January 03 2015 04:47 IAmRobik wrote:On January 03 2015 04:45 justanothertownie wrote:
lol what? Where did you get that read from? It's just how I read your posts. They don't seem angry or emotion-filled. They just seem bland like everything is ok Did you read anything that was posted during the night? Ya. I've read mostly everything. If you're going to ask me to quote specific posts, I won't be able to. Like I said, it's just how I perceive your emotional state whole writing the posts. No idea how you get that read. Absolutely no idea. And even if this was true it wouldn't be alignment indicative. It is very weird that this is all you have to show for your read on me after all that I have done this game. Well, given my inability to play d1 since the game started on a fucking holiday-my favorite holiday of the year no less- I can only judge based off of eod1 and night phase. I sheeped you onto a town because it appeared my lynxh target wasn't happening, and it seemed like you took charge which was a good sign. It was clear that you were pushing Geripty and I don't see you as maf/maf so I felt comfortable following you. However, we did end up lynching a townie. We also ended up not lynching geript whose alignment is unknown. So if geript is scum, you're town but made a blunder. If he's town, you could be town for leading or scum for trying to get cred for if geript flips town you can say "why would I do that as scum" Good job. You figured out I could theoretically be scum or town because of the lynch. That's not a read.
Artanis proposed a scenario where you can only be town this game. I proposed one where you are scum for reasons a and b. I also explained why I could be wrong. I don't have to take a hard stance to be analyzing the game.
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On January 03 2015 05:05 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 05:02 justanothertownie wrote:On January 03 2015 04:58 IAmRobik wrote:On January 03 2015 04:53 justanothertownie wrote:On January 03 2015 04:50 IAmRobik wrote:On January 03 2015 04:48 justanothertownie wrote:On January 03 2015 04:47 IAmRobik wrote:On January 03 2015 04:45 justanothertownie wrote:
lol what? Where did you get that read from? It's just how I read your posts. They don't seem angry or emotion-filled. They just seem bland like everything is ok Did you read anything that was posted during the night? Ya. I've read mostly everything. If you're going to ask me to quote specific posts, I won't be able to. Like I said, it's just how I perceive your emotional state whole writing the posts. No idea how you get that read. Absolutely no idea. And even if this was true it wouldn't be alignment indicative. It is very weird that this is all you have to show for your read on me after all that I have done this game. Well, given my inability to play d1 since the game started on a fucking holiday-my favorite holiday of the year no less- I can only judge based off of eod1 and night phase. I sheeped you onto a town because it appeared my lynxh target wasn't happening, and it seemed like you took charge which was a good sign. It was clear that you were pushing Geripty and I don't see you as maf/maf so I felt comfortable following you. However, we did end up lynching a townie. We also ended up not lynching geript whose alignment is unknown. So if geript is scum, you're town but made a blunder. If he's town, you could be town for leading or scum for trying to get cred for if geript flips town you can say "why would I do that as scum" Good job. You figured out I could theoretically be scum or town because of the lynch. That's not a read. Artanis proposed a scenario where you can only be town this game. I proposed one where you are scum for reasons a and b. I also explained why I could be wrong. I don't have to take a hard stance to be analyzing the game.
Yeah, but you said he shouldn't have a townread on me while you obviously don't even have a read on me which is very atypical for you at this point in the game btw.
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On January 03 2015 04:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vivax do you have a read on Ritoky?
I've taken a look at his list post that Superbia mentioned as bein a scum claim but don't get it as such. It was quite half assed and unfocused but that can just be sloppy town play. Guess he wanted everyone to know what he was thinking before peacing out to NYE.
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On January 03 2015 05:07 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 05:05 IAmRobik wrote:On January 03 2015 05:02 justanothertownie wrote:On January 03 2015 04:58 IAmRobik wrote:On January 03 2015 04:53 justanothertownie wrote:On January 03 2015 04:50 IAmRobik wrote:On January 03 2015 04:48 justanothertownie wrote:On January 03 2015 04:47 IAmRobik wrote:On January 03 2015 04:45 justanothertownie wrote:
lol what? Where did you get that read from? It's just how I read your posts. They don't seem angry or emotion-filled. They just seem bland like everything is ok Did you read anything that was posted during the night? Ya. I've read mostly everything. If you're going to ask me to quote specific posts, I won't be able to. Like I said, it's just how I perceive your emotional state whole writing the posts. No idea how you get that read. Absolutely no idea. And even if this was true it wouldn't be alignment indicative. It is very weird that this is all you have to show for your read on me after all that I have done this game. Well, given my inability to play d1 since the game started on a fucking holiday-my favorite holiday of the year no less- I can only judge based off of eod1 and night phase. I sheeped you onto a town because it appeared my lynxh target wasn't happening, and it seemed like you took charge which was a good sign. It was clear that you were pushing Geripty and I don't see you as maf/maf so I felt comfortable following you. However, we did end up lynching a townie. We also ended up not lynching geript whose alignment is unknown. So if geript is scum, you're town but made a blunder. If he's town, you could be town for leading or scum for trying to get cred for if geript flips town you can say "why would I do that as scum" Good job. You figured out I could theoretically be scum or town because of the lynch. That's not a read. Artanis proposed a scenario where you can only be town this game. I proposed one where you are scum for reasons a and b. I also explained why I could be wrong. I don't have to take a hard stance to be analyzing the game. Yeah, but you said he shouldn't have a townread on me while you obviously don't even have a read on me which is very atypical for you at this point in the game btw.
Except for the part where I have admittedly not played the first 3/4 of the game.
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On January 03 2015 05:09 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 05:07 justanothertownie wrote:On January 03 2015 05:05 IAmRobik wrote:On January 03 2015 05:02 justanothertownie wrote:On January 03 2015 04:58 IAmRobik wrote:On January 03 2015 04:53 justanothertownie wrote:On January 03 2015 04:50 IAmRobik wrote:On January 03 2015 04:48 justanothertownie wrote:On January 03 2015 04:47 IAmRobik wrote:On January 03 2015 04:45 justanothertownie wrote:
lol what? Where did you get that read from? It's just how I read your posts. They don't seem angry or emotion-filled. They just seem bland like everything is ok Did you read anything that was posted during the night? Ya. I've read mostly everything. If you're going to ask me to quote specific posts, I won't be able to. Like I said, it's just how I perceive your emotional state whole writing the posts. No idea how you get that read. Absolutely no idea. And even if this was true it wouldn't be alignment indicative. It is very weird that this is all you have to show for your read on me after all that I have done this game. Well, given my inability to play d1 since the game started on a fucking holiday-my favorite holiday of the year no less- I can only judge based off of eod1 and night phase. I sheeped you onto a town because it appeared my lynxh target wasn't happening, and it seemed like you took charge which was a good sign. It was clear that you were pushing Geripty and I don't see you as maf/maf so I felt comfortable following you. However, we did end up lynching a townie. We also ended up not lynching geript whose alignment is unknown. So if geript is scum, you're town but made a blunder. If he's town, you could be town for leading or scum for trying to get cred for if geript flips town you can say "why would I do that as scum" Good job. You figured out I could theoretically be scum or town because of the lynch. That's not a read. Artanis proposed a scenario where you can only be town this game. I proposed one where you are scum for reasons a and b. I also explained why I could be wrong. I don't have to take a hard stance to be analyzing the game. Yeah, but you said he shouldn't have a townread on me while you obviously don't even have a read on me which is very atypical for you at this point in the game btw. Except for the part where I have admittedly not played the first 3/4 of the game.
Maybe. Still looking forward to all the wrecking.
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On January 03 2015 05:03 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 04:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 03 2015 04:49 IAmRobik wrote:
@artanis, nope not really. Maybe Dandred. I had to look back at the player list. Everyone has been fairly scummy. Obv I think you're town too Game is hard, only 4 town vs 10 mafia. I can get behind Damdred I guess, with some reservations. His suspects are kinda weird but he does seem to be prodding quite nicely and is pretty paranoid. I just hope you, Marv and Luigi come out to play on D2. I think that even though my filter size was lacking, I still managed to give decent substantiated reads d1. Basically what you are saying about DrHamd what others are saying about him is something I articulated early on into the game. I don't recall all the reads I gave but I think they've been decently solid. I also think (wifom) that I wouldn't be as self-aware as I am regarding my play. I stated that I was more nervous of people TRing me than scum reading me because I think the people who are scum reading me are probably analyzing and thinking about the game more clearly than those who are TRing me. I am town, but the people giving me town reads are more likely doing it based off of TMI
If you feel you've given substantiated reads, why do you think people townreading you are more likely to be scum than people scum reading you?
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Vivax
Lynch Robik and geript after that.
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On January 03 2015 05:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 05:03 IAmRobik wrote:On January 03 2015 04:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 03 2015 04:49 IAmRobik wrote:
@artanis, nope not really. Maybe Dandred. I had to look back at the player list. Everyone has been fairly scummy. Obv I think you're town too Game is hard, only 4 town vs 10 mafia. I can get behind Damdred I guess, with some reservations. His suspects are kinda weird but he does seem to be prodding quite nicely and is pretty paranoid. I just hope you, Marv and Luigi come out to play on D2. I think that even though my filter size was lacking, I still managed to give decent substantiated reads d1. Basically what you are saying about DrHamd what others are saying about him is something I articulated early on into the game. I don't recall all the reads I gave but I think they've been decently solid. I also think (wifom) that I wouldn't be as self-aware as I am regarding my play. I stated that I was more nervous of people TRing me than scum reading me because I think the people who are scum reading me are probably analyzing and thinking about the game more clearly than those who are TRing me. I am town, but the people giving me town reads are more likely doing it based off of TMI If you feel you've given substantiated reads, why do you think people townreading you are more likely to be scum than people scum reading you?
They were town reading me before that for not playing. I specifically remember ritoky doing it but I don't remember who else did. It just felt weird and like I said, it irked me that JAT puts pressure on me every game and now this game all of a sudden he doesn't. Meh. Whatever. I appreciate the town pass I got. I am clearly trying now. I'm explaining my thought process and I am interacting with people. My thoughts probably won't be complete and a mafia flip will really help me out as I'll be able to go back and analyze what that person said, but until then, I'm not sure how much reading of the tread pre-of 90 I will do unless I randomly filter dive someone who I don't like.
As I explained earlier, I clicked on some random filters to see what was up and see if filter sizes were where I expected them to be. Superbias was too short and was the first thing that stood out. Edens was short for him, but I like what he's said since the start of the night phase so I m think I'm ok with him. DrHs is too long for scum even though I've never played with him before. It's so rare that scum had the longest filter.
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Why am I scum koshi? Besides my early game non-play cause of NYE/NYD
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On January 03 2015 05:16 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 05:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 03 2015 05:03 IAmRobik wrote:On January 03 2015 04:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 03 2015 04:49 IAmRobik wrote:
@artanis, nope not really. Maybe Dandred. I had to look back at the player list. Everyone has been fairly scummy. Obv I think you're town too Game is hard, only 4 town vs 10 mafia. I can get behind Damdred I guess, with some reservations. His suspects are kinda weird but he does seem to be prodding quite nicely and is pretty paranoid. I just hope you, Marv and Luigi come out to play on D2. I think that even though my filter size was lacking, I still managed to give decent substantiated reads d1. Basically what you are saying about DrHamd what others are saying about him is something I articulated early on into the game. I don't recall all the reads I gave but I think they've been decently solid. I also think (wifom) that I wouldn't be as self-aware as I am regarding my play. I stated that I was more nervous of people TRing me than scum reading me because I think the people who are scum reading me are probably analyzing and thinking about the game more clearly than those who are TRing me. I am town, but the people giving me town reads are more likely doing it based off of TMI If you feel you've given substantiated reads, why do you think people townreading you are more likely to be scum than people scum reading you? They were town reading me before that for not playing. I specifically remember ritoky doing it but I don't remember who else did. It just felt weird and like I said, it irked me that JAT puts pressure on me every game and now this game all of a sudden he doesn't.
Think hard about it. Could there be a reason for me to give you a one day pass in this game that did not exist in others?
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On January 03 2015 05:16 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 05:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 03 2015 05:03 IAmRobik wrote:On January 03 2015 04:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 03 2015 04:49 IAmRobik wrote:
@artanis, nope not really. Maybe Dandred. I had to look back at the player list. Everyone has been fairly scummy. Obv I think you're town too Game is hard, only 4 town vs 10 mafia. I can get behind Damdred I guess, with some reservations. His suspects are kinda weird but he does seem to be prodding quite nicely and is pretty paranoid. I just hope you, Marv and Luigi come out to play on D2. I think that even though my filter size was lacking, I still managed to give decent substantiated reads d1. Basically what you are saying about DrHamd what others are saying about him is something I articulated early on into the game. I don't recall all the reads I gave but I think they've been decently solid. I also think (wifom) that I wouldn't be as self-aware as I am regarding my play. I stated that I was more nervous of people TRing me than scum reading me because I think the people who are scum reading me are probably analyzing and thinking about the game more clearly than those who are TRing me. I am town, but the people giving me town reads are more likely doing it based off of TMI If you feel you've given substantiated reads, why do you think people townreading you are more likely to be scum than people scum reading you? They were town reading me before that for not playing.
Ah okay, that's fair.
On January 03 2015 05:16 Koshi wrote:
Vivax
Lynch Robik and geript after that.
Why do you want to lynch Robik?
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On January 03 2015 05:19 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 05:16 IAmRobik wrote:On January 03 2015 05:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 03 2015 05:03 IAmRobik wrote:On January 03 2015 04:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 03 2015 04:49 IAmRobik wrote:
@artanis, nope not really. Maybe Dandred. I had to look back at the player list. Everyone has been fairly scummy. Obv I think you're town too Game is hard, only 4 town vs 10 mafia. I can get behind Damdred I guess, with some reservations. His suspects are kinda weird but he does seem to be prodding quite nicely and is pretty paranoid. I just hope you, Marv and Luigi come out to play on D2. I think that even though my filter size was lacking, I still managed to give decent substantiated reads d1. Basically what you are saying about DrHamd what others are saying about him is something I articulated early on into the game. I don't recall all the reads I gave but I think they've been decently solid. I also think (wifom) that I wouldn't be as self-aware as I am regarding my play. I stated that I was more nervous of people TRing me than scum reading me because I think the people who are scum reading me are probably analyzing and thinking about the game more clearly than those who are TRing me. I am town, but the people giving me town reads are more likely doing it based off of TMI If you feel you've given substantiated reads, why do you think people townreading you are more likely to be scum than people scum reading you? They were town reading me before that for not playing. I specifically remember ritoky doing it but I don't remember who else did. It just felt weird and like I said, it irked me that JAT puts pressure on me every game and now this game all of a sudden he doesn't. Think hard about it. Could there be a reason for me to give you a one day pass in this game that did not exist in others?
Obviously. But 1) I don't think you are the type of person to give town passes d1 as town 2) I don't think I'm respected enough to earn a d1 town pass from you. Maybe marv or plammmmar or something, but not me.
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Here's my feelings as of now. I'm usually not posting my reads as they form because I prefer to wait a bit and tunnel the person I'm most sure of. As you can see, I'll spend a lot of time going PBP and once I start tunneling I start skimming everything else that's happening. Hence why I need to reread. I can get that done at work today. I can probably post from McDonalds on my lunch break but beyond that typing anything more than a sentence is really frustrating on my loaner phone.
Leaning town on JAT, Eden, VE and LM (who I think was first deflection off of geript/chyz)
Feel good about geript and thechyz still.
Leaning scum on sicklucker, GB and one of Marv/Palmar.
Pretty much null or haven't paid enough attention to anyone else. I've had weird feelings about Artanis and Damdred before but I was fully immersed in my tunnel at that point and never nurtured those gut reads. Weakest town read here is JAT but I definitely see where he's coming from on Vivax and he's noticing the right things. When I read Vivax first start to shit on JAT it felt like he didn't really have a scumread and was just mad about the way he played. I already had that argument with JAT but didn't feel it necessary to go cherrypick his filter or something and I was definitely more pissed off too
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I don't know if I believe that.
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I also skimmed JATs last town game and he was playing the same way. Never really posted a big case of a PBP, spent a lot of his time asking prodding questions and just playing conversationally. If that's the best way for him to form reads why overreact about it now. I guess Vivax wouldn't be scared to sheep Chyz even if they were scumbuddies. Also awesome conspiracy if geript voted vivax in preparation for team to bus him on day 2
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On January 03 2015 05:23 justanothertownie wrote:
I don't know if I believe that.
It's not about what you believe. It's about what I believe you believe
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