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TheChyz
Canada238 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On January 01 2015 03:25 justanothertownie wrote: I never said that it is good townplay. But I have enough experience to know that town players are not always playing well. I think you should too. I know that. I think this is scum play not bad town play. I don't think a townie would reach the same conclusions and express them in the same way as TheChyz did. If this gains no traction I am going to rewrite my case ad nauseum because I am about 80% convinced which is good for this early in the game | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On January 01 2015 03:26 TheChyz wrote: I remember geript making a post about dr.H being a bully when mafia. Does anybody else agree with this? I was fine with dr.H like 8 hours ago because it seemed like he was trying to scum hunt. Now it just looks like hes trying to filter spam the same thing over and over and trying push a vote. You're right. I am trying to push a vote on you because I believe you are mafia. The objective of the game is to lynch mafia and is the only thing that matters. Geript has never played in a game where I was scum as far as I recall. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On January 01 2015 03:27 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I know that. I think this is scum play not bad town play. I don't think a townie would reach the same conclusions and express them in the same way as TheChyz did. If this gains no traction I am going to rewrite my case ad nauseum because I am about 80% convinced which is good for this early in the game that's a disappointing climbdown from 100% sigbet worthy | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16986 Posts
On December 31 2014 19:48 KelsierSC wrote: sicklucker can you explain what the issue is with ritoky attacking doctor? you have a huge town read on doctor at that point? I just thought it was useless like everyone else. Also ritoky did it for very bad reasons when there was actually some ok reasons | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
On January 01 2015 03:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote: No matter what Chyz flips I'm gonna be all over you next so you might wanna start omgusing me now it'll make it look more authentic later It's already cute how you think you will get Chyz lynched. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
On January 01 2015 03:26 TheChyz wrote: I remember geript making a post about dr.H being a bully when mafia. Does anybody else agree with this? I was fine with dr.H like 8 hours ago because it seemed like he was trying to scum hunt. Now it just looks like hes trying to filter spam the same thing over and over and trying push a vote. 8 hours ago you voted for Dr.H. So I wouldn't say "you were fine with him". Anyway Dr.H. is also not getting lynched today. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
So I asked the two of them some questions and I quite like the read that Artanis gave on DrH that felt towny to me. But when I asked Lazer questions he basically didn't have any reads on eden, DrH or rit. This is apparently a scummy thing because he reads the chyz as scum for not immediately having strong reads at that stage of the game. We need to move on from chyz at the moment because this reason for pushing him is poor. He stopped rit and DrH having their dick measuring, that felt fine. Then when he got forced to give reads (by DrH) he gave some but he wasn't like "this guy is scum, lynch" and then DrH feels like he was being hypocritical...I don't see how, nowhere did chyz give the impression he was giving a strong read. When Lazer entered the thread he gave these reads On January 01 2015 00:30 Lazermonkey wrote: Hi everyone Because of NYE, I will only be able to be active for a few hours today. Tomorrow I'll have more time though. Chyz looks scummy. Though I do think people are attacking him for the wrong reasons. The discussion between DH and rikoty WAS stupid. But if you look at Chyz opening post, he doesn't give any actual opinion about the players involved other than that rikoty should move on. Nowhere does he speak about their alignment. Chyz doesn't follow up with anything at all untill he is called out. Why is it that he the first thing that he felt he had to post was that people was on the wrong track, instead of actually trying give some of his own opinion? This is scum mentality. ##Vote: TheChyz which is just a copy of the thread mentality and what people had said, again I think the case is bad so supporting it is bad to me. Then he gives a read on Robik, which is like the most pointless read at this stage of the game "hey robik said hi then left, he is a bit scummy" ... yeh but what is the point of that read. Then he gave his 3 reads eventually on eden etc. I didn't think much of the reads at all, they seem very contrived. So in conclusion, jumps into thread and sheeps the thread opinion, ( a bad case on chezy ) , has no good reads at all. I think one of artanis/lazer is scummy and I think it is Lazer | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
Anyone can come in halfway through Day 1 and point out a bunch of people who aren't committed to anything. It takes a long time for people to get entrenched and confident in their reads and it's a VERY easy time for mafia to come in and either FoS or vote for anybody on those grounds. The fact that he chose to do that on a player (eden) who didn't fit his stated reasoning (eden wasn't being defensive or noncommittal or any of those things) is very strange. If he said that about somebody else and it were true I wouldn't have been very interested at all and would agree, like he said, that it was just the best thing he had going. But the reasons were fake. His behavior since has been just as wishy washy and bad, calling me a filter spammer and not addressing anything. Not doing anything to LazerMonkey even when Marv threw his support behind that. Uses the same one size fits all Day 1 case for LazerMonkey as he used for his eden read, everything this guy is doing is setting off red flags for me left and right. Could be a youngminii situation but mafia is about taking risks. I won't be right 100% of the time but even if TheChyz is newb town scum is sweating if they know I'm willing to tunnel like this. | ||
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justanothertownie
16309 Posts
On January 01 2015 03:33 Koshi wrote: 8 hours ago you voted for Dr.H. So I wouldn't say "you were fine with him". Anyway Dr.H. is also not getting lynched today. Yup. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On January 01 2015 03:31 marvellosity wrote: that's a disappointing climbdown from 100% sigbet worthy I'll still sigbet, that's pretty good odds. Have anything useful to say yet marv | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On January 01 2015 03:34 KelsierSC wrote: So I honestly think the case against Chyz is kind of shit tier and that is what makes me interested in the people who jumped on it. Namely Artanis and Lazor. So I asked the two of them some questions and I quite like the read that Artanis gave on DrH that felt towny to me. But when I asked Lazer questions he basically didn't have any reads on eden, DrH or rit. This is apparently a scummy thing because he reads the chyz as scum for not immediately having strong reads at that stage of the game. We need to move on from chyz at the moment because this reason for pushing him is poor. He stopped rit and DrH having their dick measuring, that felt fine. Then when he got forced to give reads (by DrH) he gave some but he wasn't like "this guy is scum, lynch" and then DrH feels like he was being hypocritical...I don't see how, nowhere did chyz give the impression he was giving a strong read. When Lazer entered the thread he gave these reads which is just a copy of the thread mentality and what people had said, again I think the case is bad so supporting it is bad to me. Then he gives a read on Robik, which is like the most pointless read at this stage of the game "hey robik said hi then left, he is a bit scummy" ... yeh but what is the point of that read. Then he gave his 3 reads eventually on eden etc. I didn't think much of the reads at all, they seem very contrived. So in conclusion, jumps into thread and sheeps the thread opinion, ( a bad case on chezy ) , has no good reads at all. I think one of artanis/lazer is scummy and I think it is Lazer I never said thechyz was scum for not immediately having strong reads that has very little to do with it. He obviously fabricated his post. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16986 Posts
On December 31 2014 20:50 marvellosity wrote: let's kill ritoky. he pushed absolute bullshit reasons for all his scumreads in Carol and was generally unwarrantedly aggressive. I can't believe he's so dumb to push something for 10+ posts here which was a joke. Literally the only hesitation is that I can't believe he would play exactly the same for another game running. Nothing else is very interesting. Chyz gets time. DrH didn't demonstrate Chyz was mafia, just maybe that he made a read he shouldn't have. tbc. Like this is so true and why I voted him. In carol he claimed a present just to claim one which was a huge reason as to how I figured out his alignment and his mafia team. It was stupid then and hes being pretty stupid now | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
What more do you want? If I right now said you were scum for not saying stuff you have been saying I bet you'd vote for me right there. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On January 01 2015 03:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I'll still sigbet, that's pretty good odds. Have anything useful to say yet marv my lynches bring all the boys to the yard, and damn right, they're better than yours? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On January 01 2015 03:32 sicklucker wrote: I just thought it was useless like everyone else. Also ritoky did it for very bad reasons when there was actually some ok reasons You think that is a good reason to lynch him then? | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
He was apparently fine with me 8 hours ago when he was calling me scum, voting for me and saying I'm spewing garbage though I wonder if that's significant at all | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
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sicklucker
Canada16986 Posts
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