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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16316 Posts
December 31 2014 18:17 GMT
#601
On January 01 2015 03:16 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 02:52 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 01 2015 02:36 Damdred wrote:
On January 01 2015 02:30 Lazermonkey wrote:
Soo, about the 3 "protagonists"

Eden - Attacked DH for his policy-post. While I agree with his points about policy-lynching, it felt wierd (as some others pointed out) that he called DHs post "stiff and akward timed" while still saying he was town and yet ends up saying DH is town. Not reading to much into this though, as I felt he explained himself well later on regarding the DH-post. His interactions with DH seems possible both from town and scum. He attacks Chyz which is nice though.

DH - Got discussion going early on, posted alot (even though some of it was pretty bad). Not lynching today.

rik - tunneled the shit out of DH, didn't post much else. Tunneling is really non-alignment indicative. I'm null on him.


Your eden post has no real conclusion, are you reading them scum null or town? This read feels a bit fabricated to me

I'm not sure what to make of your DH read, what was so bad that he posted to you? Why would you not lynch someone today just because they posted a lot even if a lot of it was bad to you?

Rit got discussion going also the same as DH and posted a good bit but you don't give him the same pass? Why?

Overall this reads pretty fabricated and scummy to me

We are halfway in D1. The Eden and Rit reads are very inconclusive because they've said very little of value this far. DH got the discussion going more than Rit did (that is my impression at least). Compare their filters.


I won't argue that drh has a bigger filter than ritoky, because its obviously the truth. At the time of your reads you had their argument and drh pushing his scum read.

However I disagree that Eden and rit have said little of value a lot of discussion has happened around them so you should be able to take a stance. Hell your Eden read seems like a scum read without you saying that they are scum

The fact that people are talking about does not mean that you said anything of value. I kinda agree that ritoky said nothing of value.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 31 2014 18:17 GMT
#602
On January 01 2015 02:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 02:27 Damdred wrote:
On January 01 2015 02:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 01 2015 02:16 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 01 2015 02:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 01 2015 02:12 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 01 2015 02:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 01 2015 02:06 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 01 2015 01:58 justanothertownie wrote:
Same same.
Doing fine. Won't be around as much as usual today obviously.
Any thoughts about the game at hand?

Thanks buddy.

Regarding the game...I have absolutely no ideas as I have read maybe like 3 total posts. I thought this would start Friday, so I was kinda surprised when I saw there were 13-14 pages. I"m kinda intimidated now that there are 25 pages and my desire to catch up is non-existent. I will give you my assurance that I have rolled quite the favorable alliance (given my extreme disdain for rolling mafia, it should be easy to figure out what that is), and I will be helping in the mass execution of all mafiosos.

Hi Robik.
I will lynch you if you do not read the thread. I hope that is enough motivation.
Kind regards,
Artanis

Do you actually believe you'll get me lynched unless people vote me out of spite?

Let me point you to something.....

IAmRobik 0/14 = 0.0000%


It will be 0/15 after this game.

I think I'll get you lynched if you're scum or if you do not catch up to the thread. If you catch up and show that you are not scum, then I'll be happy to unvote you. Right now you are wasting space.

We're getting off on the wrong foot -- see the thing is...i'm town, so even if i'm wasting space, you shouldn't lynch me...especially on day 1. Everyone here knows that I'm a super productive member of town, even if I'm a pain in the ass. So I implore you to give me the benefit of the doubt and just accept that I will come out firing when I have the time to put into the game -- which just so happens to be AFTER A FUCKING HOLIDAY

Calm down dear, you still have until the deadline to show as such.
On January 01 2015 02:16 Damdred wrote:
On January 01 2015 02:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 01 2015 02:06 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 01 2015 01:58 justanothertownie wrote:
Same same.
Doing fine. Won't be around as much as usual today obviously.
Any thoughts about the game at hand?

Thanks buddy.

Regarding the game...I have absolutely no ideas as I have read maybe like 3 total posts. I thought this would start Friday, so I was kinda surprised when I saw there were 13-14 pages. I"m kinda intimidated now that there are 25 pages and my desire to catch up is non-existent. I will give you my assurance that I have rolled quite the favorable alliance (given my extreme disdain for rolling mafia, it should be easy to figure out what that is), and I will be helping in the mass execution of all mafiosos.

Hi Robik.
I will lynch you if you do not read the thread. I hope that is enough motivation.
Kind regards,
Artanis


So Artanis, why are you focusing on Robik so much for not reading the thread? GB has said that hes not reading the thread and won't catch up today for sure but you haven't even mentioned that?

Because Robik has said Hi like 3 times during the day showing he was present. Besides, I'm familiar with Robik and I like annoying him.


Since you aren't in the mood to lynch geript today, are you going to try to push robik down the lynch today? Or just trying to get him to do stuff

What's the point of this question?
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 02:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 01 2015 02:36 Eden1892 wrote:
On January 01 2015 00:40 Koshi wrote:
You say that the discussion was stupid, TheChyz stopped (or attempted) to stop the argument and steer the thread into another direction. Why would mafia do this?

But that's the problem. He didn't actually do the latter part. He just entered the thread to say "hey this is a stupid argument, stop having it" without actually taking the discussion in a different direction. I feel like your posts have been giving Chyz a lot more credit than he's actually earned and it's starting to bother me.

Attempt to steer the thread in WHAT DIRECTION? his fake read on eden that he himself said he wouldnt bother voting for?

Popping in the thread to say hey guys, you all suck, peace out is scummy. All he did was try to shut ritoky down. All of chuz and koshi posts are fake scum posts.

Do you have a scumread on Koshi?


Just trying to figure out your motivations herr
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 31 2014 18:18 GMT
#603
On January 01 2015 03:12 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 03:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
He singles out eden for being noncommittal, defensive, non-aggressive, etc. yet Eden for the whole thread was pressuring people with good questions, putting in effort trying to get a read on me and he actually made a small case for Chyz and voted for him. Only I had voted up until that point. Then he says his own read isn't good enough to vote for, considering that, why would his stance about eden being wishy washy hold any weight

Like I said. Hypocrisy is not a thing only scum does.

Because the read was fabricated. He's accusing eden of doing things eden didn't do, then calls the read garbage, then says it was good again but he won't commit to it until later, then flames me for a while, then calls out lazermonkey for not having a strong read or something.
RIP Aaliyah
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 31 2014 18:19 GMT
#604
On January 01 2015 03:01 Lazermonkey wrote:
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On January 01 2015 02:58 marvellosity wrote:
like as it stands I'd lynch Lazer over Chyz any day of the week.

And I might lynch any uber-lurker before either of them.

why?

because your contributions have been very easy to make and you're essentially attacking the same post that others have (sound familiar?). Whereas Chyz is still here plodding away. I like that. Not sure if it makes him town yet, but it does lend itself to explain my statement there
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16316 Posts
December 31 2014 18:19 GMT
#605
On January 01 2015 03:17 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 03:16 Damdred wrote:
On January 01 2015 02:52 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 01 2015 02:36 Damdred wrote:
On January 01 2015 02:30 Lazermonkey wrote:
Soo, about the 3 "protagonists"

Eden - Attacked DH for his policy-post. While I agree with his points about policy-lynching, it felt wierd (as some others pointed out) that he called DHs post "stiff and akward timed" while still saying he was town and yet ends up saying DH is town. Not reading to much into this though, as I felt he explained himself well later on regarding the DH-post. His interactions with DH seems possible both from town and scum. He attacks Chyz which is nice though.

DH - Got discussion going early on, posted alot (even though some of it was pretty bad). Not lynching today.

rik - tunneled the shit out of DH, didn't post much else. Tunneling is really non-alignment indicative. I'm null on him.


Your eden post has no real conclusion, are you reading them scum null or town? This read feels a bit fabricated to me

I'm not sure what to make of your DH read, what was so bad that he posted to you? Why would you not lynch someone today just because they posted a lot even if a lot of it was bad to you?

Rit got discussion going also the same as DH and posted a good bit but you don't give him the same pass? Why?

Overall this reads pretty fabricated and scummy to me

We are halfway in D1. The Eden and Rit reads are very inconclusive because they've said very little of value this far. DH got the discussion going more than Rit did (that is my impression at least). Compare their filters.


I won't argue that drh has a bigger filter than ritoky, because its obviously the truth. At the time of your reads you had their argument and drh pushing his scum read.

However I disagree that Eden and rit have said little of value a lot of discussion has happened around them so you should be able to take a stance. Hell your Eden read seems like a scum read without you saying that they are scum

The fact that people are talking about does not mean that you said anything of value. I kinda agree that ritoky said nothing of value.

talking about YOU*
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16316 Posts
December 31 2014 18:20 GMT
#606
On January 01 2015 03:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 03:12 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 01 2015 03:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
He singles out eden for being noncommittal, defensive, non-aggressive, etc. yet Eden for the whole thread was pressuring people with good questions, putting in effort trying to get a read on me and he actually made a small case for Chyz and voted for him. Only I had voted up until that point. Then he says his own read isn't good enough to vote for, considering that, why would his stance about eden being wishy washy hold any weight

Like I said. Hypocrisy is not a thing only scum does.

Because the read was fabricated. He's accusing eden of doing things eden didn't do, then calls the read garbage, then says it was good again but he won't commit to it until later, then flames me for a while, then calls out lazermonkey for not having a strong read or something.

So? We aren't getting anywhere here.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
December 31 2014 18:20 GMT
#607
On January 01 2015 02:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Can't we just lynch Robik instead? It's a win/win situation. Either he's town and his streak breaks or he's scum and we get closer to winning.

I'm not even scummy. Get your head out of your ass
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 31 2014 18:21 GMT
#608
On January 01 2015 03:20 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 03:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 01 2015 03:12 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 01 2015 03:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
He singles out eden for being noncommittal, defensive, non-aggressive, etc. yet Eden for the whole thread was pressuring people with good questions, putting in effort trying to get a read on me and he actually made a small case for Chyz and voted for him. Only I had voted up until that point. Then he says his own read isn't good enough to vote for, considering that, why would his stance about eden being wishy washy hold any weight

Like I said. Hypocrisy is not a thing only scum does.

Because the read was fabricated. He's accusing eden of doing things eden didn't do, then calls the read garbage, then says it was good again but he won't commit to it until later, then flames me for a while, then calls out lazermonkey for not having a strong read or something.

So? We aren't getting anywhere here.

We should be getting to lynching TheChyz.
RIP Aaliyah
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 31 2014 18:21 GMT
#609
On January 01 2015 03:17 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 03:16 Damdred wrote:
On January 01 2015 02:52 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 01 2015 02:36 Damdred wrote:
On January 01 2015 02:30 Lazermonkey wrote:
Soo, about the 3 "protagonists"

Eden - Attacked DH for his policy-post. While I agree with his points about policy-lynching, it felt wierd (as some others pointed out) that he called DHs post "stiff and akward timed" while still saying he was town and yet ends up saying DH is town. Not reading to much into this though, as I felt he explained himself well later on regarding the DH-post. His interactions with DH seems possible both from town and scum. He attacks Chyz which is nice though.

DH - Got discussion going early on, posted alot (even though some of it was pretty bad). Not lynching today.

rik - tunneled the shit out of DH, didn't post much else. Tunneling is really non-alignment indicative. I'm null on him.


Your eden post has no real conclusion, are you reading them scum null or town? This read feels a bit fabricated to me

I'm not sure what to make of your DH read, what was so bad that he posted to you? Why would you not lynch someone today just because they posted a lot even if a lot of it was bad to you?

Rit got discussion going also the same as DH and posted a good bit but you don't give him the same pass? Why?

Overall this reads pretty fabricated and scummy to me

We are halfway in D1. The Eden and Rit reads are very inconclusive because they've said very little of value this far. DH got the discussion going more than Rit did (that is my impression at least). Compare their filters.


I won't argue that drh has a bigger filter than ritoky, because its obviously the truth. At the time of your reads you had their argument and drh pushing his scum read.

However I disagree that Eden and rit have said little of value a lot of discussion has happened around them so you should be able to take a stance. Hell your Eden read seems like a scum read without you saying that they are scum

The fact that people are talking about does not mean that you said anything of value. I kinda agree that ritoky said nothing of value.


I think I somewhat disagree, I think its valuable because of being able to figure out alignments. But that's not exactly my point.

The point is laz is giving drh a free pass for the day even though he says deh says a lot of bad things but its more of a null read. (reads like setting up a mislynch later)

The Eden read seems like a scum read without any real conclusions.

And the rit part is just null.

I just don't like where he's going and seems made up a bit
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16316 Posts
December 31 2014 18:22 GMT
#610
On January 01 2015 03:20 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 02:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Can't we just lynch Robik instead? It's a win/win situation. Either he's town and his streak breaks or he's scum and we get closer to winning.

I'm not even scummy. Get your head out of your ass

I think he brings up a very good point there. But unfortunately I also think it is better not to lynch you right now :/
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 31 2014 18:22 GMT
#611
So what if someone fabricates a read? Are you serious? He went from defending it for different reasons, to calling it garbage and not disagreeing with my dismissal of it, then saying again that he's sticking with his eden read, then dropping it to make the same accusations against lazermonkey which were hypocritical anyway. I guess that's considered good town play now?
RIP Aaliyah
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16316 Posts
December 31 2014 18:23 GMT
#612
On January 01 2015 03:21 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 03:17 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 01 2015 03:16 Damdred wrote:
On January 01 2015 02:52 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 01 2015 02:36 Damdred wrote:
On January 01 2015 02:30 Lazermonkey wrote:
Soo, about the 3 "protagonists"

Eden - Attacked DH for his policy-post. While I agree with his points about policy-lynching, it felt wierd (as some others pointed out) that he called DHs post "stiff and akward timed" while still saying he was town and yet ends up saying DH is town. Not reading to much into this though, as I felt he explained himself well later on regarding the DH-post. His interactions with DH seems possible both from town and scum. He attacks Chyz which is nice though.

DH - Got discussion going early on, posted alot (even though some of it was pretty bad). Not lynching today.

rik - tunneled the shit out of DH, didn't post much else. Tunneling is really non-alignment indicative. I'm null on him.


Your eden post has no real conclusion, are you reading them scum null or town? This read feels a bit fabricated to me

I'm not sure what to make of your DH read, what was so bad that he posted to you? Why would you not lynch someone today just because they posted a lot even if a lot of it was bad to you?

Rit got discussion going also the same as DH and posted a good bit but you don't give him the same pass? Why?

Overall this reads pretty fabricated and scummy to me

We are halfway in D1. The Eden and Rit reads are very inconclusive because they've said very little of value this far. DH got the discussion going more than Rit did (that is my impression at least). Compare their filters.


I won't argue that drh has a bigger filter than ritoky, because its obviously the truth. At the time of your reads you had their argument and drh pushing his scum read.

However I disagree that Eden and rit have said little of value a lot of discussion has happened around them so you should be able to take a stance. Hell your Eden read seems like a scum read without you saying that they are scum

The fact that people are talking about does not mean that you said anything of value. I kinda agree that ritoky said nothing of value.


I think I somewhat disagree, I think its valuable because of being able to figure out alignments. But that's not exactly my point.

The point is laz is giving drh a free pass for the day even though he says deh says a lot of bad things but its more of a null read. (reads like setting up a mislynch later)

The Eden read seems like a scum read without any real conclusions.

And the rit part is just null.

I just don't like where he's going and seems made up a bit

Fair enough.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 31 2014 18:23 GMT
#613
On January 01 2015 03:20 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 02:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Can't we just lynch Robik instead? It's a win/win situation. Either he's town and his streak breaks or he's scum and we get closer to winning.

I'm not even scummy. Get your head out of your ass

Let me help Robik

Artanis[Xp] 0/17 = 0.0000%

Can't we just lynch Artanis? It's a win/win situation. Either he's town and we break his streak or he's scum and we get closer to winning.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
December 31 2014 18:23 GMT
#614
On January 01 2015 03:16 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 02:52 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 01 2015 02:36 Damdred wrote:
On January 01 2015 02:30 Lazermonkey wrote:
Soo, about the 3 "protagonists"

Eden - Attacked DH for his policy-post. While I agree with his points about policy-lynching, it felt wierd (as some others pointed out) that he called DHs post "stiff and akward timed" while still saying he was town and yet ends up saying DH is town. Not reading to much into this though, as I felt he explained himself well later on regarding the DH-post. His interactions with DH seems possible both from town and scum. He attacks Chyz which is nice though.

DH - Got discussion going early on, posted alot (even though some of it was pretty bad). Not lynching today.

rik - tunneled the shit out of DH, didn't post much else. Tunneling is really non-alignment indicative. I'm null on him.


Your eden post has no real conclusion, are you reading them scum null or town? This read feels a bit fabricated to me

I'm not sure what to make of your DH read, what was so bad that he posted to you? Why would you not lynch someone today just because they posted a lot even if a lot of it was bad to you?

Rit got discussion going also the same as DH and posted a good bit but you don't give him the same pass? Why?

Overall this reads pretty fabricated and scummy to me

We are halfway in D1. The Eden and Rit reads are very inconclusive because they've said very little of value this far. DH got the discussion going more than Rit did (that is my impression at least). Compare their filters.


I won't argue that drh has a bigger filter than ritoky, because its obviously the truth. At the time of your reads you had their argument and drh pushing his scum read.

However I disagree that Eden and rit have said little of value a lot of discussion has happened around them so you should be able to take a stance. Hell your Eden read seems like a scum read without you saying that they are scum

Well, if your argument is "you should be able to pick a more clear stance" I cannot argue against it. I don't feel like making up a read on any of them just to please you. Also, my read on Eden is not a scum read. He is null.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 31 2014 18:24 GMT
#615
On January 01 2015 02:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 02:38 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 01 2015 02:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On December 31 2014 18:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
TheChyz is mafia

The foundation of my argument is that TheChyz superficially chose eden1892 when asked for his reads. When I dismiss his initial reasons, he further contradicts the premise of his read and then changes the reasons when asked about it by ritoky. Let's go through his post history with context.

On December 31 2014 17:06 TheChyz wrote:
Hello all.

Currently I don't like the direction that dr.H and ritoky are going. Basically I just see it as dr.H doing something not alignment indicative (someone always talks about policy lynches :/ ) and now ritoky is just trying to either prove that dr.H is scum or (my most probably guess) is he just wants to get an early acknowledgement of dominance by trying to force dr.H into admitting he did not follow his own policy (which most people don't follow anyway). I don't see a reason why ritoky would push this so far without any agenda.

@ritoky lets move onto something a bit more important than trying to prove your dick is bigger than dr.H's. If there is anything substantial you have then go ahead, but currently your just being more of a filter spammer than anything.


This post is supposed to be uncontroversial. I realize now I initially misread part of this post but it changes nothing. The important part is colored in red.

On December 31 2014 17:22 TheChyz wrote:
Nah i just don't like conversations going in circles for years on end. Eden is sticking out to me as my largest scum read because the constant defensive wording in each post where there always seems to be some idea of not jumpin on somebody too strongly. Just doesn't sit right about how cautious he/she (sorry dont know) is trying to be when there is literally no reason to be cautious other than being afraid of having heat thrown his/her way.

dr.H and ritoky lean town. pointless talking mostly but mafia probably doesn't want too much attention for absolutely no reason other than proving a point.


Let's sum up the Eden read:
1. Eden is my largest scum read.
2. He is scummy because he uses defensive wording.
3. He is scummy because he is not jumping on anyone strongly.
4. He is scummy because he is playing cautiously and fearfully.

Of all players in this game this about describes Eden the least. What about the myriad of other players who have yet to accuse anyone of being mafia?

On December 31 2014 17:17 Eden1892 wrote:
in fact Chyz you can have my first vote of the game, it's special to me so please treat us right. Doc I still have reservations about wrt me being unfair, Chyz I really don't.

##VOTE: TheChyz


This post comes before TheChyz's second post. Eden is one of only two players in the game to even vote up until this point. Why oh why considering this would eden stand out specifically to TheChyz as a player who is
1. Defensive
2. Not jumping on anyone
3. Too cautious

This is the first time in the game that TheChyz expresses immediate suspicion towards someone who votes for him.

On December 31 2014 17:33 TheChyz wrote:
He just is? Like I can be suspicious too. Hell i'm suspicious of everybody, but its just the wording that he is using doesn't sit right with me. Seems to clean.


1. Everyone is suspicious
2. I am suspicious
3. The only thing that makes eden seem scummy is his wording doesn't seem right.

I'm not sure what "The wording isn't right" means. Earlier TheChyz has more specific reasons, but I guess he kinda forgot about them or whatever. It was only his largest scum read so those kinds of things don't matter. Shoot, he's just suspicious of everybody so it doesn't really matter!

I wonder when TheChyz will have something substantial to say. Apparently his scumreads aren't very substantial at all as he says himself.

On December 31 2014 17:30 TheChyz wrote:
I don't have a reason to vote for eden. Because someone is my largest scum read (at this point in the game that means he is the least towny out of all like, what , 5 players) doesn't mean i need to vote on him. Garbage vote atm so why would i do it?


With this post let's try to get a masterlist of all the things you think about Eden, your #1 scumread. Sorry if I'm redundant.

1. Eden is my largest scumread.
2. Eden is scummy because he uses defensive wording.
3. Eden is scummy because he is afraid of jumping on anyone. (I would assume this means accusing, pressuring,voting - all things Eden had done before he brought this up)
4. Eden is scummy because he seems cautious and fearful.
5. Eden is scummy just because his wording just doesn't seem right.
6. I have no reason to vote for Eden.
7. Voting for eden is a garbage vote.
8. Eden is the least towny of all the players.

And then:
On December 31 2014 17:39 TheChyz wrote:
Defend what read? Stop spewing garbage and putting it in peoples mouths. I didn't like how eden is formulating his soft accusations and I haven't dismissed it yet. Is it anything to push on, no? But alas donkeys like you like seeing garbage reads so I thought id give you one. Here's another
##vote: DoctorHelvetica


Eden's soft accusations resulted in a vote on you pages ago. Now you're accusing me of being soft for not voting for you but eden is soft for whatever reason because I guess you have to stick to your guns or something. I'll wait a few more hours to vote and see how long you chase your tail over it

Everyone read this again. Thechyz has yet to contribute a thought out read or try scumhunting. All his votes are jist omgus and hes still telling people he suspects them basically for not scumhunting or having strong reads. It doesn't get much worse. There is no reason we should not lynch thechyz day 1.

Nothing in this post makes him obviously scum.

If thechyz is town in this game you can write my tl sig. It's barely even about hypocrisy. Its about the foundation of his read....its fabricated obvioisly because eden was basically the only.player to make real accusations or do much up to thst point. Earlier he doesnt think it important enough to even offer his "largest scumread" when he can just lurk and tell.other players how they arent being useful

I am the biggest believer in Chyz his innocence. I should get the honors.
I had a good night of sleep.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 31 2014 18:24 GMT
#616
It isn't scum not to have a strong read but it is like scum to yell at everyone else for not having them while they basically lurk and post nonsense.
RIP Aaliyah
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16316 Posts
December 31 2014 18:24 GMT
#617
On January 01 2015 03:23 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 03:20 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 01 2015 02:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Can't we just lynch Robik instead? It's a win/win situation. Either he's town and his streak breaks or he's scum and we get closer to winning.

I'm not even scummy. Get your head out of your ass

Let me help Robik

Artanis[Xp] 0/17 = 0.0000%

Can't we just lynch Artanis? It's a win/win situation. Either he's town and we break his streak or he's scum and we get closer to winning.

Artanis only has this stat to show since he replaced out of heavyweight like a pussy though.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
December 31 2014 18:24 GMT
#618
On January 01 2015 03:23 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 03:20 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 01 2015 02:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Can't we just lynch Robik instead? It's a win/win situation. Either he's town and his streak breaks or he's scum and we get closer to winning.

I'm not even scummy. Get your head out of your ass

Let me help Robik

Artanis[Xp] 0/17 = 0.0000%

Can't we just lynch Artanis? It's a win/win situation. Either he's town and we break his streak or he's scum and we get closer to winning.

justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16316 Posts
December 31 2014 18:25 GMT
#619
On January 01 2015 03:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
So what if someone fabricates a read? Are you serious? He went from defending it for different reasons, to calling it garbage and not disagreeing with my dismissal of it, then saying again that he's sticking with his eden read, then dropping it to make the same accusations against lazermonkey which were hypocritical anyway. I guess that's considered good town play now?

I never said that it is good townplay. But I have enough experience to know that town players are not always playing well. I think you should too.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 31 2014 18:26 GMT
#620
On January 01 2015 03:24 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 02:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 01 2015 02:38 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 01 2015 02:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On December 31 2014 18:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
TheChyz is mafia

The foundation of my argument is that TheChyz superficially chose eden1892 when asked for his reads. When I dismiss his initial reasons, he further contradicts the premise of his read and then changes the reasons when asked about it by ritoky. Let's go through his post history with context.

On December 31 2014 17:06 TheChyz wrote:
Hello all.

Currently I don't like the direction that dr.H and ritoky are going. Basically I just see it as dr.H doing something not alignment indicative (someone always talks about policy lynches :/ ) and now ritoky is just trying to either prove that dr.H is scum or (my most probably guess) is he just wants to get an early acknowledgement of dominance by trying to force dr.H into admitting he did not follow his own policy (which most people don't follow anyway). I don't see a reason why ritoky would push this so far without any agenda.

@ritoky lets move onto something a bit more important than trying to prove your dick is bigger than dr.H's. If there is anything substantial you have then go ahead, but currently your just being more of a filter spammer than anything.


This post is supposed to be uncontroversial. I realize now I initially misread part of this post but it changes nothing. The important part is colored in red.

On December 31 2014 17:22 TheChyz wrote:
Nah i just don't like conversations going in circles for years on end. Eden is sticking out to me as my largest scum read because the constant defensive wording in each post where there always seems to be some idea of not jumpin on somebody too strongly. Just doesn't sit right about how cautious he/she (sorry dont know) is trying to be when there is literally no reason to be cautious other than being afraid of having heat thrown his/her way.

dr.H and ritoky lean town. pointless talking mostly but mafia probably doesn't want too much attention for absolutely no reason other than proving a point.


Let's sum up the Eden read:
1. Eden is my largest scum read.
2. He is scummy because he uses defensive wording.
3. He is scummy because he is not jumping on anyone strongly.
4. He is scummy because he is playing cautiously and fearfully.

Of all players in this game this about describes Eden the least. What about the myriad of other players who have yet to accuse anyone of being mafia?

On December 31 2014 17:17 Eden1892 wrote:
in fact Chyz you can have my first vote of the game, it's special to me so please treat us right. Doc I still have reservations about wrt me being unfair, Chyz I really don't.

##VOTE: TheChyz


This post comes before TheChyz's second post. Eden is one of only two players in the game to even vote up until this point. Why oh why considering this would eden stand out specifically to TheChyz as a player who is
1. Defensive
2. Not jumping on anyone
3. Too cautious

This is the first time in the game that TheChyz expresses immediate suspicion towards someone who votes for him.

On December 31 2014 17:33 TheChyz wrote:
He just is? Like I can be suspicious too. Hell i'm suspicious of everybody, but its just the wording that he is using doesn't sit right with me. Seems to clean.


1. Everyone is suspicious
2. I am suspicious
3. The only thing that makes eden seem scummy is his wording doesn't seem right.

I'm not sure what "The wording isn't right" means. Earlier TheChyz has more specific reasons, but I guess he kinda forgot about them or whatever. It was only his largest scum read so those kinds of things don't matter. Shoot, he's just suspicious of everybody so it doesn't really matter!

I wonder when TheChyz will have something substantial to say. Apparently his scumreads aren't very substantial at all as he says himself.

On December 31 2014 17:30 TheChyz wrote:
I don't have a reason to vote for eden. Because someone is my largest scum read (at this point in the game that means he is the least towny out of all like, what , 5 players) doesn't mean i need to vote on him. Garbage vote atm so why would i do it?


With this post let's try to get a masterlist of all the things you think about Eden, your #1 scumread. Sorry if I'm redundant.

1. Eden is my largest scumread.
2. Eden is scummy because he uses defensive wording.
3. Eden is scummy because he is afraid of jumping on anyone. (I would assume this means accusing, pressuring,voting - all things Eden had done before he brought this up)
4. Eden is scummy because he seems cautious and fearful.
5. Eden is scummy just because his wording just doesn't seem right.
6. I have no reason to vote for Eden.
7. Voting for eden is a garbage vote.
8. Eden is the least towny of all the players.

And then:
On December 31 2014 17:39 TheChyz wrote:
Defend what read? Stop spewing garbage and putting it in peoples mouths. I didn't like how eden is formulating his soft accusations and I haven't dismissed it yet. Is it anything to push on, no? But alas donkeys like you like seeing garbage reads so I thought id give you one. Here's another
##vote: DoctorHelvetica


Eden's soft accusations resulted in a vote on you pages ago. Now you're accusing me of being soft for not voting for you but eden is soft for whatever reason because I guess you have to stick to your guns or something. I'll wait a few more hours to vote and see how long you chase your tail over it

Everyone read this again. Thechyz has yet to contribute a thought out read or try scumhunting. All his votes are jist omgus and hes still telling people he suspects them basically for not scumhunting or having strong reads. It doesn't get much worse. There is no reason we should not lynch thechyz day 1.

Nothing in this post makes him obviously scum.

If thechyz is town in this game you can write my tl sig. It's barely even about hypocrisy. Its about the foundation of his read....its fabricated obvioisly because eden was basically the only.player to make real accusations or do much up to thst point. Earlier he doesnt think it important enough to even offer his "largest scumread" when he can just lurk and tell.other players how they arent being useful

I am the biggest believer in Chyz his innocence. I should get the honors.

No matter what Chyz flips I'm gonna be all over you next so you might wanna start omgusing me now it'll make it look more authentic later
RIP Aaliyah
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