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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On January 01 2015 03:40 KelsierSC wrote: Doctor what do you think about the people who were supporting your case? I skimmed a lot of posts in this thread because I am currently only concerned about tunneling TheChyz. I'll read all that stuff later when I'm ready to think about it. | ||
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TheChyz
Canada238 Posts
On December 31 2014 17:39 TheChyz wrote: But alas donkeys like you like seeing garbage reads so I thought id give you one. Here's another ##vote: DoctorHelvetica I think it was fairly obvious this wasn't a serious read... And I was really tired and a bit annoyed so wanted to let off a bit of steam. | ||
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justanothertownie
16317 Posts
On January 01 2015 03:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Look. This is @JAT Anyone can come in halfway through Day 1 and point out a bunch of people who aren't committed to anything. It takes a long time for people to get entrenched and confident in their reads and it's a VERY easy time for mafia to come in and either FoS or vote for anybody on those grounds. The fact that he chose to do that on a player (eden) who didn't fit his stated reasoning (eden wasn't being defensive or noncommittal or any of those things) is very strange. If he said that about somebody else and it were true I wouldn't have been very interested at all and would agree, like he said, that it was just the best thing he had going. But the reasons were fake. His behavior since has been just as wishy washy and bad, calling me a filter spammer and not addressing anything. Not doing anything to LazerMonkey even when Marv threw his support behind that. Uses the same one size fits all Day 1 case for LazerMonkey as he used for his eden read, everything this guy is doing is setting off red flags for me left and right. Could be a youngminii situation but mafia is about taking risks. I won't be right 100% of the time but even if TheChyz is newb town scum is sweating if they know I'm willing to tunnel like this. Fine then we just have to agree to disagree. Coming in and calling someone out for something that he supposedly didn't do is something I see town players do way more often than scummers. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On January 01 2015 03:40 sicklucker wrote: Actually thats not true he did really have one but he was begging in scum qt to fake one so he was still pretty agro. Still did dumb things like to claim it knowing there was a rber that a town would never do. I don't understand what you're saying but it seems like it could be useful, can you clarify it or put it in context with some of ritokys posts? | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On January 01 2015 03:36 sicklucker wrote: Like this is so true and why I voted him. In carol he claimed a present just to claim one which was a huge reason as to how I figured out his alignment and his mafia team. It was stupid then and hes being pretty stupid now So was rikoty scum in that game? And does he not post that way in other games? Because in general, I'd say being super aggressive and tunneling the shit out of people without any reason is more likely to come from town than it is to come from scum. And even then, I feel meh about voting someone ONLY because of meta. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On January 01 2015 03:41 TheChyz wrote: I think it was fairly obvious this wasn't a serious read... And I was really tired and a bit annoyed so wanted to let off a bit of steam. Cherrypicking. You were tilting in the thread about how I didn't vote yet. No one was gonna vote with you so now it's all just bullshit and you were actually fine with me the whole time? No. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On January 01 2015 03:24 Koshi wrote: I am the biggest believer in Chyz his innocence. I should get the honors. You should answer my questions/posts then please, because I don't see it. [adding extra quote tag to avoid wall-o-text] | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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TheChyz
Canada238 Posts
And his read on me just seems to good to not have a decent enough read on somebody else. Again I don't get why a scum would poke their head out this early to defend a lynch that doesn't have traction yet but the longer he does it the more it seems like koshi just knows im town but hasn't added too much to the thread other than that. Just seems suspicious to me. | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
I have to go now, will be able to post more tomorrow. | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On January 01 2015 02:22 geript wrote: @Artanis. What do you think of sicklucker, Eden and Kelsier? I think those are the best overall flips. Ritoky could maybe be tossed in there too. Do you disagree with the following: Artanis, DrH, Chyz, Damdred I feel like I'm forgetting someone from this list but oh well. Like thats possibly 3 towns.. Wheres that meta case on me you promised. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On January 01 2015 03:52 TheChyz wrote: I'm having some trouble with koshi after thinking it some. Basically once koshi started defending me, thats mostly all that koshi has contributed to the thread. Just talks about me being town and dr.H being wrong in his read. Like the first time seeing it it felt fine but the longer this game goes, that is all that koshi has been really on. Nothing much else apart from saying "this person is fine, these people are on my scum list, etc". I haven't really felt like I have gotten anything from koshi. And his read on me just seems to good to not have a decent enough read on somebody else. Again I don't get why a scum would poke their head out this early to defend a lynch that doesn't have traction yet but the longer he does it the more it seems like koshi just knows im town but hasn't added too much to the thread other than that. Just seems suspicious to me. I really like this post for town. You know the old tell about forgiving your attacker that mafia tend to do, because they know the person attacking them is right and they would rather defuse the threat with kindness and cordiality instead of trying to engage someone they know is right? It's the opposite here. I feel like attacking your forgiver is a good town tell. Mafia don't turn around and get after people who are defending them, and doubly so if they're actually under some significant suspicion. Mafia do numbers-crunching and try to see how many people they can keep on their side and don't try to attack people defending them to gain town credit. It just doesn't make sense. I feel better about Chyz for this post | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
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geript
10024 Posts
On January 01 2015 03:59 sicklucker wrote: Like thats possibly 3 towns.. Wheres that meta case on me you promised. I didn't promise a case. I just planned to meta you at some point today. I'll probably run to the store and grab some beers and maybe do it tonight. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On January 01 2015 04:13 Damdred wrote: @sl I'm not understanding what ritoky claiming his present has to do with this Its him being agro did you not read the scum qt that game where he said "GUYS IM GONNA CLAIM A PRESENT AND OWN THESE SUCKERS". like 5 times. So like dandred and doctor should probably never be lynched this game. While I disagree with dandreds reads on ritoky because he was aggressive in other ways he is right about what he said. Doctor is pushing this game poorly or not. For some reason my brain blocked out alot of his tunnel but his passion is there. leaning town on marv and ksc. Like I think I read ksc bad tho he is always a tryhard mafia or town but as both alignments he randomly disappears and gets modkilled or policy lynched. I think he will sort himself out. I dont like ritoky but if he improves his play I could get off that. geript. I dont like to change my reads on vets because they often squirm out of playing bad. Wanna go with my gut and kill this man. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
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sicklucker
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