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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 31 2014 07:55 GMT
#341
The bullying thing was a jokr about Ace. When I say bullying I mean stuff like ...for example I feel no need to engage with ritoky right now . I look forward to thw rest of his brilliant discoveries. About my lying and all.
RIP Aaliyah
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
December 31 2014 07:55 GMT
#342
On December 31 2014 16:41 ritoky wrote:
also he immediately wants to discuss lynching lurkers, and anyone who has played with me before knows the statistic i cite so frequently: 86% of the time the first person to start suggesting lynching lurkers is mafia.

I'm pretty sure that I've been the first person to discuss lurker lynches in almost all of my games (a large majority of which are town). 86% of your statistic is bullshit.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 31 2014 07:56 GMT
#343
I even said in the dame same or next post that i dont really beliebe believe in policy lynches anyway. Thats just how it came out of my head when i started typing at first. Who carws.cares. this kind of shit has nothing to do with scumhunting, this is the kind of stuff that made me weary about signing up
RIP Aaliyah
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 31 2014 07:59 GMT
#344
On December 31 2014 15:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
What's up nerds. Let's talk policy - unlike a lot of people I think it's plenty useful on Day 1.

I believe strongly in Lynch All Liars.



On December 31 2014 15:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I dont usually support policy lynches but anyone caught in a lie deserves intense scrutiny and questioning imo


I mean it's only 5 or so posts after his big deal about policy lynching and he is already softening and backing down on it.

Also I understand that his initial post on policy is pretty specific to claims and people lying about claims; but some of his later posts indicate to me that he wants to lynch people shitting up the thread and lying in general as an extension of his initial post.

I am going to try to stop tunneling so hard for now though, I generally dislike people who really push policy; so I might have some bias.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 31 2014 07:59 GMT
#345
On December 31 2014 16:55 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 16:41 ritoky wrote:
also he immediately wants to discuss lynching lurkers, and anyone who has played with me before knows the statistic i cite so frequently: 86% of the time the first person to start suggesting lynching lurkers is mafia.

I'm pretty sure that I've been the first person to discuss lurker lynches in almost all of my games (a large majority of which are town). 86% of your statistic is bullshit.


wanna see my spreadsheet of my games played where i keep statistics?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
TheChyz
Profile Joined November 2013
Canada238 Posts
December 31 2014 08:06 GMT
#346
Hello all.

Currently I don't like the direction that dr.H and ritoky are going. Basically I just see it as dr.H doing something not alignment indicative (someone always talks about policy lynches :/ ) and now ritoky is just trying to either prove that dr.H is scum or (my most probably guess) is he just wants to get an early acknowledgement of dominance by trying to force dr.H into admitting he did not follow his own policy (which most people don't follow anyway). I don't see a reason why ritoky would push this so far without any agenda.

@ritoky lets move onto something a bit more important than trying to prove your dick is bigger than dr.H's. If there is anything substantial you have then go ahead, but currently your just being more of a filter spammer than anything.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 31 2014 08:09 GMT
#347
On December 31 2014 16:59 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 15:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
What's up nerds. Let's talk policy - unlike a lot of people I think it's plenty useful on Day 1.

I believe strongly in Lynch All Liars.



Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 15:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I dont usually support policy lynches but anyone caught in a lie deserves intense scrutiny and questioning imo


I mean it's only 5 or so posts after his big deal about policy lynching and he is already softening and backing down on it.

Also I understand that his initial post on policy is pretty specific to claims and people lying about claims; but some of his later posts indicate to me that he wants to lynch people shitting up the thread and lying in general as an extension of his initial post.

I am going to try to stop tunneling so hard for now though, I generally dislike people who really push policy; so I might have some bias.


Oh, I finally get what's happening. I wasn't softening or backing down on anything - there was nothing to begin with. I don't care what anyone thinks about any policy. When I said "I strongly believe" it was just the first words that popped into my mind. When I say lying I don't mean rhetorical contradictions necessarily (because I'm prone to them by mistake) or errors, but more specifically fake claims or lying about night actions. When town does this it immediately starts a huge bandwagon and derails the thread. Seeing as I have been in many games where some brilliant townies tried to do this and it turned out badly I do have some genuine concerns but they mean nothing in the context of this game. What does matter and what IS the point is the conversations, accusations, cases that follow. I think of those fluff and policy posts as the spark to start the mafia game proper. I'm not trying to push any kind of conversation or discussion or anything about any sort of actual policy itself. I hope you can understand this. I can see why you would make this mistake and I have not played in a game with so many players unfamiliar with these kinds of things out of me in a long time, so I guess I should be very clear about things like this?
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 31 2014 08:10 GMT
#348
On December 31 2014 17:06 TheChyz wrote:
Hello all.

Currently I don't like the direction that dr.H and ritoky are going. Basically I just see it as dr.H doing something not alignment indicative (someone always talks about policy lynches :/ ) and now ritoky is just trying to either prove that dr.H is scum or (my most probably guess) is he just wants to get an early acknowledgement of dominance by trying to force dr.H into admitting he did not follow his own policy (which most people don't follow anyway). I don't see a reason why ritoky would push this so far without any agenda.

@ritoky lets move onto something a bit more important than trying to prove your dick is bigger than dr.H's. If there is anything substantial you have then go ahead, but currently your just being more of a filter spammer than anything.

what do you think is more important mister critic
RIP Aaliyah
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
December 31 2014 08:10 GMT
#349
On December 31 2014 16:55 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 16:41 ritoky wrote:
also he immediately wants to discuss lynching lurkers, and anyone who has played with me before knows the statistic i cite so frequently: 86% of the time the first person to start suggesting lynching lurkers is mafia.

I'm pretty sure that I've been the first person to discuss lurker lynches in almost all of my games (a large majority of which are town). 86% of your statistic is bullshit.

Ooh, my turn.

Earlier, geript, you had some issues with my posting about Doc's policy discussion instead of about your reads, and had criticized my choice of focus on Doc's policy discussion.

Now that ritoky, sicklurker(?) and I have, through different avenues of discussion, concluded that Doc is suspicious, you chose to reenter the thread to... critique a statistic tied to a minor point against Doc.

Of the recent developments surrounding Doc in the thread right now, why is this your choice of focus? It strikes me as self-evidently going nowhere.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 31 2014 08:13 GMT
#350
geript is scum buddying me. he seems very confident in his reads but then just proceeds to ask some weak questions in the next post. very active and called out eden as scummy but disengaged for an opportunity to take a side i guess defending me? dunno. i was thinking abou tthis in the shower but i have tunneled geript when we were both town before and I'd like to see more.

or maybe I'm just buddying you more eden, make a note of that on your pie chart
RIP Aaliyah
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 31 2014 08:13 GMT
#351
On December 31 2014 17:06 TheChyz wrote:
Hello all.

Currently I don't like the direction that dr.H and ritoky are going. Basically I just see it as dr.H doing something not alignment indicative (someone always talks about policy lynches :/ ) and now ritoky is just trying to either prove that dr.H is scum or (my most probably guess) is he just wants to get an early acknowledgement of dominance by trying to force dr.H into admitting he did not follow his own policy (which most people don't follow anyway). I don't see a reason why ritoky would push this so far without any agenda.

@ritoky lets move onto something a bit more important than trying to prove your dick is bigger than dr.H's. If there is anything substantial you have then go ahead, but currently your just being more of a filter spammer than anything.


you have demonstrated that you have read the thread and have an opinion on it, why don't you give reads on people? or do you have none? do you have a read on either of us in particular? "filter spammer" doesn't say anything about alignment.

i think the content i have provided is substantive and indicates someone being at the least hypocritical and at the most scum.

outside of that eden and geript are both in the leaning town pile for now. and SL is actually reading what people type, something he didn't do a whole lot of as town last game, so idk what to make of that yet.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
December 31 2014 08:14 GMT
#352
On December 31 2014 17:06 TheChyz wrote:
Hello all.

Currently I don't like the direction that dr.H and ritoky are going. Basically I just see it as dr.H doing something not alignment indicative (someone always talks about policy lynches :/ ) and now ritoky is just trying to either prove that dr.H is scum or (my most probably guess) is he just wants to get an early acknowledgement of dominance by trying to force dr.H into admitting he did not follow his own policy (which most people don't follow anyway). I don't see a reason why ritoky would push this so far without any agenda.

@ritoky lets move onto something a bit more important than trying to prove your dick is bigger than dr.H's. If there is anything substantial you have then go ahead, but currently your just being more of a filter spammer than anything.

this post also gives me the heebie jeebies. I can understand not liking ritoky's choice to push on the Doc's joke but he comes to an end conclusion that other posters did as well and for not terrible reasons. Entering the thread, declaring that push a dick-measuring contest and then basically tone-policing ritoky's aggression without providing any original insight is really bothersome. (And this is even coming from someone who thought about asking ritoky et al to tone it down a bit myself, but I figured the smarter thing to do was to play my game and not spend posts trying to criticize the way others play theirs.)

Chyz looks suspicious to me for this, he's clearly paying enough attention to have opinions but so far he's elected only to comment on things that don't really matter (imo) and didn't even address the strongest parts of those things he did comment on.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
December 31 2014 08:15 GMT
#353
** "joke but he comes to"

he = ritoky there, sorry pronouns r hard mkay
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
December 31 2014 08:16 GMT
#354
On December 31 2014 17:10 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 16:55 geript wrote:
On December 31 2014 16:41 ritoky wrote:
also he immediately wants to discuss lynching lurkers, and anyone who has played with me before knows the statistic i cite so frequently: 86% of the time the first person to start suggesting lynching lurkers is mafia.

I'm pretty sure that I've been the first person to discuss lurker lynches in almost all of my games (a large majority of which are town). 86% of your statistic is bullshit.

Ooh, my turn.

Earlier, geript, you had some issues with my posting about Doc's policy discussion instead of about your reads, and had criticized my choice of focus on Doc's policy discussion.

Now that ritoky, sicklurker(?) and I have, through different avenues of discussion, concluded that Doc is suspicious, you chose to reenter the thread to... critique a statistic tied to a minor point against Doc.

Of the recent developments surrounding Doc in the thread right now, why is this your choice of focus? It strikes me as self-evidently going nowhere.

Because I hate it when people who have literally been useless try to throw out things that are wildly inaccurate to try and make a point. Especially when it's something I hold sacred like statistics. As for ritoky, no clue. I can't really read him. I think he was scum in an abortion of a game. I'll check later when I meta sicklucker.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
December 31 2014 08:17 GMT
#355
in fact Chyz you can have my first vote of the game, it's special to me so please treat us right. Doc I still have reservations about wrt me being unfair, Chyz I really don't.

##VOTE: TheChyz
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
December 31 2014 08:17 GMT
#356
Mental note: Chyz maybe newb town.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 31 2014 08:17 GMT
#357
On December 31 2014 17:16 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 17:10 Eden1892 wrote:
On December 31 2014 16:55 geript wrote:
On December 31 2014 16:41 ritoky wrote:
also he immediately wants to discuss lynching lurkers, and anyone who has played with me before knows the statistic i cite so frequently: 86% of the time the first person to start suggesting lynching lurkers is mafia.

I'm pretty sure that I've been the first person to discuss lurker lynches in almost all of my games (a large majority of which are town). 86% of your statistic is bullshit.

Ooh, my turn.

Earlier, geript, you had some issues with my posting about Doc's policy discussion instead of about your reads, and had criticized my choice of focus on Doc's policy discussion.

Now that ritoky, sicklurker(?) and I have, through different avenues of discussion, concluded that Doc is suspicious, you chose to reenter the thread to... critique a statistic tied to a minor point against Doc.

Of the recent developments surrounding Doc in the thread right now, why is this your choice of focus? It strikes me as self-evidently going nowhere.

Because I hate it when people who have literally been useless try to throw out things that are wildly inaccurate to try and make a point. Especially when it's something I hold sacred like statistics. As for ritoky, no clue. I can't really read him. I think he was scum in an abortion of a game. I'll check later when I meta sicklucker.


we have played 3 games together, 1 was cancelled when we were both town. 1 was a cell game where we were both town. the other was the one with the holy grail where i was mafia and you were town (with mafia?). at least that is what i have in my spreadsheet.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 31 2014 08:17 GMT
#358
That's all obvious, he just needs to share his opinion. @chyz, don't defend yourself. Just give your opinion about whats important. You said our conversation was unimportant but somehow it was the only thing you saw important enough to mention. Or am I misunderstanding? Please clarify
RIP Aaliyah
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 31 2014 08:18 GMT
#359
(with mafia?) = (witch mafia)*****
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
December 31 2014 08:20 GMT
#360
On December 31 2014 17:16 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 17:10 Eden1892 wrote:
On December 31 2014 16:55 geript wrote:
On December 31 2014 16:41 ritoky wrote:
also he immediately wants to discuss lynching lurkers, and anyone who has played with me before knows the statistic i cite so frequently: 86% of the time the first person to start suggesting lynching lurkers is mafia.

I'm pretty sure that I've been the first person to discuss lurker lynches in almost all of my games (a large majority of which are town). 86% of your statistic is bullshit.

Ooh, my turn.

Earlier, geript, you had some issues with my posting about Doc's policy discussion instead of about your reads, and had criticized my choice of focus on Doc's policy discussion.

Now that ritoky, sicklurker(?) and I have, through different avenues of discussion, concluded that Doc is suspicious, you chose to reenter the thread to... critique a statistic tied to a minor point against Doc.

Of the recent developments surrounding Doc in the thread right now, why is this your choice of focus? It strikes me as self-evidently going nowhere.

Because I hate it when people who have literally been useless try to throw out things that are wildly inaccurate to try and make a point. Especially when it's something I hold sacred like statistics. As for ritoky, no clue. I can't really read him. I think he was scum in an abortion of a game. I'll check later when I meta sicklucker.

err... ok I guess. I get pet peeves/causes or whatever but I don't really see ritoky as useless. Have you anything else to add?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
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