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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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geript
10024 Posts
On December 31 2014 16:41 ritoky wrote: also he immediately wants to discuss lynching lurkers, and anyone who has played with me before knows the statistic i cite so frequently: 86% of the time the first person to start suggesting lynching lurkers is mafia. I'm pretty sure that I've been the first person to discuss lurker lynches in almost all of my games (a large majority of which are town). 86% of your statistic is bullshit. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On December 31 2014 15:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote: What's up nerds. Let's talk policy - unlike a lot of people I think it's plenty useful on Day 1. I believe strongly in Lynch All Liars. On December 31 2014 15:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I dont usually support policy lynches but anyone caught in a lie deserves intense scrutiny and questioning imo I mean it's only 5 or so posts after his big deal about policy lynching and he is already softening and backing down on it. Also I understand that his initial post on policy is pretty specific to claims and people lying about claims; but some of his later posts indicate to me that he wants to lynch people shitting up the thread and lying in general as an extension of his initial post. I am going to try to stop tunneling so hard for now though, I generally dislike people who really push policy; so I might have some bias. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On December 31 2014 16:55 geript wrote: I'm pretty sure that I've been the first person to discuss lurker lynches in almost all of my games (a large majority of which are town). 86% of your statistic is bullshit. wanna see my spreadsheet of my games played where i keep statistics? | ||
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TheChyz
Canada238 Posts
Currently I don't like the direction that dr.H and ritoky are going. Basically I just see it as dr.H doing something not alignment indicative (someone always talks about policy lynches :/ ) and now ritoky is just trying to either prove that dr.H is scum or (my most probably guess) is he just wants to get an early acknowledgement of dominance by trying to force dr.H into admitting he did not follow his own policy (which most people don't follow anyway). I don't see a reason why ritoky would push this so far without any agenda. @ritoky lets move onto something a bit more important than trying to prove your dick is bigger than dr.H's. If there is anything substantial you have then go ahead, but currently your just being more of a filter spammer than anything. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On December 31 2014 16:59 ritoky wrote: I mean it's only 5 or so posts after his big deal about policy lynching and he is already softening and backing down on it. Also I understand that his initial post on policy is pretty specific to claims and people lying about claims; but some of his later posts indicate to me that he wants to lynch people shitting up the thread and lying in general as an extension of his initial post. I am going to try to stop tunneling so hard for now though, I generally dislike people who really push policy; so I might have some bias. Oh, I finally get what's happening. I wasn't softening or backing down on anything - there was nothing to begin with. I don't care what anyone thinks about any policy. When I said "I strongly believe" it was just the first words that popped into my mind. When I say lying I don't mean rhetorical contradictions necessarily (because I'm prone to them by mistake) or errors, but more specifically fake claims or lying about night actions. When town does this it immediately starts a huge bandwagon and derails the thread. Seeing as I have been in many games where some brilliant townies tried to do this and it turned out badly I do have some genuine concerns but they mean nothing in the context of this game. What does matter and what IS the point is the conversations, accusations, cases that follow. I think of those fluff and policy posts as the spark to start the mafia game proper. I'm not trying to push any kind of conversation or discussion or anything about any sort of actual policy itself. I hope you can understand this. I can see why you would make this mistake and I have not played in a game with so many players unfamiliar with these kinds of things out of me in a long time, so I guess I should be very clear about things like this? | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On December 31 2014 17:06 TheChyz wrote: Hello all. Currently I don't like the direction that dr.H and ritoky are going. Basically I just see it as dr.H doing something not alignment indicative (someone always talks about policy lynches :/ ) and now ritoky is just trying to either prove that dr.H is scum or (my most probably guess) is he just wants to get an early acknowledgement of dominance by trying to force dr.H into admitting he did not follow his own policy (which most people don't follow anyway). I don't see a reason why ritoky would push this so far without any agenda. @ritoky lets move onto something a bit more important than trying to prove your dick is bigger than dr.H's. If there is anything substantial you have then go ahead, but currently your just being more of a filter spammer than anything. what do you think is more important mister critic | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On December 31 2014 16:55 geript wrote: I'm pretty sure that I've been the first person to discuss lurker lynches in almost all of my games (a large majority of which are town). 86% of your statistic is bullshit. Ooh, my turn. Earlier, geript, you had some issues with my posting about Doc's policy discussion instead of about your reads, and had criticized my choice of focus on Doc's policy discussion. Now that ritoky, sicklurker(?) and I have, through different avenues of discussion, concluded that Doc is suspicious, you chose to reenter the thread to... critique a statistic tied to a minor point against Doc. Of the recent developments surrounding Doc in the thread right now, why is this your choice of focus? It strikes me as self-evidently going nowhere. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
or maybe I'm just buddying you more eden, make a note of that on your pie chart | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On December 31 2014 17:06 TheChyz wrote: Hello all. Currently I don't like the direction that dr.H and ritoky are going. Basically I just see it as dr.H doing something not alignment indicative (someone always talks about policy lynches :/ ) and now ritoky is just trying to either prove that dr.H is scum or (my most probably guess) is he just wants to get an early acknowledgement of dominance by trying to force dr.H into admitting he did not follow his own policy (which most people don't follow anyway). I don't see a reason why ritoky would push this so far without any agenda. @ritoky lets move onto something a bit more important than trying to prove your dick is bigger than dr.H's. If there is anything substantial you have then go ahead, but currently your just being more of a filter spammer than anything. you have demonstrated that you have read the thread and have an opinion on it, why don't you give reads on people? or do you have none? do you have a read on either of us in particular? "filter spammer" doesn't say anything about alignment. i think the content i have provided is substantive and indicates someone being at the least hypocritical and at the most scum. outside of that eden and geript are both in the leaning town pile for now. and SL is actually reading what people type, something he didn't do a whole lot of as town last game, so idk what to make of that yet. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On December 31 2014 17:06 TheChyz wrote: Hello all. Currently I don't like the direction that dr.H and ritoky are going. Basically I just see it as dr.H doing something not alignment indicative (someone always talks about policy lynches :/ ) and now ritoky is just trying to either prove that dr.H is scum or (my most probably guess) is he just wants to get an early acknowledgement of dominance by trying to force dr.H into admitting he did not follow his own policy (which most people don't follow anyway). I don't see a reason why ritoky would push this so far without any agenda. @ritoky lets move onto something a bit more important than trying to prove your dick is bigger than dr.H's. If there is anything substantial you have then go ahead, but currently your just being more of a filter spammer than anything. this post also gives me the heebie jeebies. I can understand not liking ritoky's choice to push on the Doc's joke but he comes to an end conclusion that other posters did as well and for not terrible reasons. Entering the thread, declaring that push a dick-measuring contest and then basically tone-policing ritoky's aggression without providing any original insight is really bothersome. (And this is even coming from someone who thought about asking ritoky et al to tone it down a bit myself, but I figured the smarter thing to do was to play my game and not spend posts trying to criticize the way others play theirs.) Chyz looks suspicious to me for this, he's clearly paying enough attention to have opinions but so far he's elected only to comment on things that don't really matter (imo) and didn't even address the strongest parts of those things he did comment on. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
he = ritoky there, sorry pronouns r hard mkay | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On December 31 2014 17:10 Eden1892 wrote: Ooh, my turn. Earlier, geript, you had some issues with my posting about Doc's policy discussion instead of about your reads, and had criticized my choice of focus on Doc's policy discussion. Now that ritoky, sicklurker(?) and I have, through different avenues of discussion, concluded that Doc is suspicious, you chose to reenter the thread to... critique a statistic tied to a minor point against Doc. Of the recent developments surrounding Doc in the thread right now, why is this your choice of focus? It strikes me as self-evidently going nowhere. Because I hate it when people who have literally been useless try to throw out things that are wildly inaccurate to try and make a point. Especially when it's something I hold sacred like statistics. As for ritoky, no clue. I can't really read him. I think he was scum in an abortion of a game. I'll check later when I meta sicklucker. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
##VOTE: TheChyz | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On December 31 2014 17:16 geript wrote: Because I hate it when people who have literally been useless try to throw out things that are wildly inaccurate to try and make a point. Especially when it's something I hold sacred like statistics. As for ritoky, no clue. I can't really read him. I think he was scum in an abortion of a game. I'll check later when I meta sicklucker. we have played 3 games together, 1 was cancelled when we were both town. 1 was a cell game where we were both town. the other was the one with the holy grail where i was mafia and you were town (with mafia?). at least that is what i have in my spreadsheet. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On December 31 2014 17:16 geript wrote: Because I hate it when people who have literally been useless try to throw out things that are wildly inaccurate to try and make a point. Especially when it's something I hold sacred like statistics. As for ritoky, no clue. I can't really read him. I think he was scum in an abortion of a game. I'll check later when I meta sicklucker. err... ok I guess. I get pet peeves/causes or whatever but I don't really see ritoky as useless. Have you anything else to add? | ||
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