On June 07 2013 12:59 Arceus wrote:
whoever wins get to produce the next Google Nexus
whoever wins get to produce the next Google Nexus
Out of nowhere, Apple sponsors Team 8 and brings the phone wars to the lands of eSports.
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eviltomahawk
United States11133 Posts
On June 07 2013 12:59 Arceus wrote: Show nested quote + On June 07 2013 12:53 DidYuhim wrote: On June 07 2013 07:35 Dodgin wrote: On June 07 2013 07:31 Assirra wrote: On June 07 2013 06:27 Fionn wrote: At this point, I'm pretty sure HoSeo is going to be the last eSF team standing. Unless a massive scandal happens with IM i am pretty sure they will. IM will leave eSF eventually, mark my words. imagine the hype - LG-IM vs Samsung KHAN whoever wins get to produce the next Google Nexus Out of nowhere, Apple sponsors Team 8 and brings the phone wars to the lands of eSports. | ||
whsper
Canada48 Posts
On June 07 2013 14:22 eviltomahawk wrote: Show nested quote + On June 07 2013 12:59 Arceus wrote: On June 07 2013 12:53 DidYuhim wrote: On June 07 2013 07:35 Dodgin wrote: On June 07 2013 07:31 Assirra wrote: On June 07 2013 06:27 Fionn wrote: At this point, I'm pretty sure HoSeo is going to be the last eSF team standing. Unless a massive scandal happens with IM i am pretty sure they will. IM will leave eSF eventually, mark my words. imagine the hype - LG-IM vs Samsung KHAN whoever wins get to produce the next Google Nexus Out of nowhere, Apple sponsors Team 8 and brings the phone wars to the lands of eSports. A brave man has just hinted to put Apple in the same sentence as Nexus. | ||
Drium
United States888 Posts
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felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
On June 07 2013 12:29 ShiroKaisen wrote: Show nested quote + On June 07 2013 11:13 felisconcolori wrote: New statement from Azubu. Rumor mongering in the competitive gaming community has recently led to allegations of wrongdoing. These allegations are both libelous and slanderous and are completely without merit in fact. It's important to note that this fails the Popehat standard for not being meritless thuggery. (What allegations? Without specifics, that's a vague attack against anything said about Azubu.) Fortunately, this isn't a cease and desist or anything legal. But c'mon guys. REFUTE with FACTS. Not just spinning tanks and looping audio clips. What are you talking about? They clearly stated all the facts necessary. They're just providing infinite entertainment, for you, just out of the goodness of their hearts. What's illegal about that? Absolutely. When confronted with allegations that your money is from possibly illegal or at the very least shady sources, the fact necessary to refute this is... "NANANANANA NO IT ISN'T LOOK AT THESE TANKS ESPORTS ESPORTS ESPORTS!!!" Seriously, go to that page and let it run for as long as you can stand the creepy esports whisper. DO IT. | ||
anemoneya
58 Posts
http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=58729 http://www.fomos.kr/ http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=1567880&category=102 Not to mention they are already published online by reputable newspaper companies, but with less focus on e-sports scene itself because of recent accusations on Kim and other well known names including son of former president of Korea, Chun-doo-hwan. http://joongang.joinsmsn.com/article/904/11735904.html?ctg=1200 http://news.donga.com/Main/3/all/20130607/55689219/1 http://news.sportsseoul.com/read/economy/1193144.htm | ||
bananajk
Germany92 Posts
Google Translator is so bad at Korean :D | ||
farnham
1378 Posts
On June 07 2013 16:58 Drium wrote: I don't care how dirty the money is as long as it goes to ESPORTS thank you based korean criminals. So you dont care that players like symbol, supernova or genius are being used for money laundry? | ||
theking1
Romania658 Posts
On June 08 2013 19:49 farnham wrote: Show nested quote + On June 07 2013 16:58 Drium wrote: I don't care how dirty the money is as long as it goes to ESPORTS thank you based korean criminals. So you dont care that players like symbol, supernova or genius are being used for money laundry? as long as they're not aware of it I don't see the issue.But I seriously doubt that a man who has to launder billions uses esports a coverup.He probably has some more respectable sources to make dirty dollars dissapear.You can not launder money by paying a couple of thousands of dollars to esports people you need big business to do that | ||
FairForever
Canada2392 Posts
On June 08 2013 19:49 farnham wrote: Show nested quote + On June 07 2013 16:58 Drium wrote: I don't care how dirty the money is as long as it goes to ESPORTS thank you based korean criminals. So you dont care that players like symbol, supernova or genius are being used for money laundry? Money laundering... LOL | ||
LightningStrikes
Korea (South)14 Posts
I noticed they haven't updated their Facebook or Twitter since May 26/27, | ||
anemoneya
58 Posts
and no reaction from AZUBU EU/AZUBU Korea. Last time when the same rumor spread through communities and news, Azubu strongly denied the rumor and threatened that they will sue whoever is spreading such rumor. They said they will hold news conference about it, but all they did was little interview. This time, with solid evidence, they haven't done anything. | ||
MCXD
Australia2738 Posts
On June 10 2013 14:52 anemoneya wrote: No update. and no reaction from AZUBU EU/AZUBU Korea. Last time when the same rumor spread through communities and news, Azubu strongly denied the rumor and threatened that they will sue whoever is spreading such rumor. They said they will hold news conference about it, but all they did was little interview. This time, with solid evidence, they haven't done anything. Probably because it's harder to tell people off for spreading rumors when it's so widespread, involves slightly more concrete evidence and involves more significant websites. Honestly I'm most frustrated about how much of a blow the SC2 scene in Korea could take because of this. They just happen to sell off their LoL teams and buy up an SC2 team, right as they get busted for illegal activities. Whoosh, aren't we lucky~! | ||
anemoneya
58 Posts
The office address they provided in their official website was address of some abandoned factory building in berlin. After people mentioned it, they changed their berlin office address to the one in tall building which is shown on the website now. Someone from lol.inven.co.kr made visit to that building. He could not find office named "AZUBU" on the directory on the first floor. He asked the guard if there is company named AZUBU in this building, the guard refused to respond. He took pictures and posted at lol.inven.co.kr. There was possibility that AZUBU is just small company and did not put their name in directory (didn't they pr themselves as famous media company based in germany tho?). someone from AZUBU called the guy and told him they moved their office to different floor and asked him to come over. The guy told us he will visit azubu. We never heard back from him. No one knows what happened to him. Yeah, true story. This guy finally showed up after 8 months!! http://www.pgr21.com/pb/pb.php?id=humor&no=160863 rough translation: title: told you guys Azubu is paper company After my attempt to investigate Azubu's office, Azubu contacted me that they will guide me through their office. I went there with police officer. Suddenly they asked me to have tea with them and brought me to cafe, and then pathetically begged and begged. Out of pity, I decided to not post the outcome of my investigation here back then, but now it's all over. ROFLOL, in truth, there isn't an office on the 14th floor, just few desks lying around in a small space on 17th floor.... (this guy looked up list of companies on 14th floor and couldn't find azubu, later azubu PMed him that azubu moved to 17th floor and told him that he can come over to 17th floor if he wants. That was his first attempt to investigate) | ||
LightningStrikes
Korea (South)14 Posts
Who on earth would ever use that? | ||
Waxangel
United States32962 Posts
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geokilla
Canada8215 Posts
On June 12 2013 06:55 Waxangel wrote: All azubu players drop from DH: Summer????? Looks like Azubu is done for... Their players will be screwed as well. Does anyone here know South Korean law? Would the Azubu players be charged for a criminal offense? Here in Canada, they can be. Taken from a Canadian lawyer's website: If you are unaware that an item is stolen, purchasing or possessing the item is not illegal. Although you may have to return it to the true owner, you are not guilty of possessing stolen property. This does not mean that you can just ignore suspicious situations or state that you do not want to know where the item came from. The Crown can make a case that based on the circumstances, you must have known that the property was stolen. Proving that you had no knowledgeof the history of the property is a complicated matter and you should speak with a lawyer for advice on how to proceed with this defence. Stolen property includes not only actual stolen items, but alsoindirect benefits gained from stolen items. For example, accepting money, knowing that it came from the sale of a stolen vehicle would qualify as possession of stolen property even though the money itself was note stolen.Another example of an indirect benefit of stolen property is having items that you know were purchased with a stolen or fraudulently obtained credit card. | ||
zev318
Canada4306 Posts
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On June 07 2013 07:31 PrinceXizor wrote: Show nested quote + On June 07 2013 06:03 iNcontroL wrote: On June 07 2013 05:47 SilverStar wrote: On June 07 2013 05:42 pluu.mooh wrote: I'd rather see some financial background report about eg Why? Their business model is pretty clear. They have several sponsors and they offer advertisement. BUT HOW DID WE GET THOSE SPONSORS? MAYBE BY MAGIC? Confirmed by INcontrol. EG sacrifices children to get sponsors. And pizzas. | ||
Noocta
France12578 Posts
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rasnj
United States1959 Posts
On June 12 2013 06:59 geokilla wrote: Looks like Azubu is done for... Their players will be screwed as well. Does anyone here know South Korean law? Would the Azubu players be charged for a criminal offense? Here in Canada, they can be. Taken from a Canadian lawyer's website: Show nested quote + If you are unaware that an item is stolen, purchasing or possessing the item is not illegal. Although you may have to return it to the true owner, you are not guilty of possessing stolen property. This does not mean that you can just ignore suspicious situations or state that you do not want to know where the item came from. The Crown can make a case that based on the circumstances, you must have known that the property was stolen. Proving that you had no knowledgeof the history of the property is a complicated matter and you should speak with a lawyer for advice on how to proceed with this defence. Stolen property includes not only actual stolen items, but alsoindirect benefits gained from stolen items. For example, accepting money, knowing that it came from the sale of a stolen vehicle would qualify as possession of stolen property even though the money itself was note stolen.Another example of an indirect benefit of stolen property is having items that you know were purchased with a stolen or fraudulently obtained credit card. I don't see how what you quoted could be used against Azubu players. Unless they were paid in 1 dollar bills with blood on them, then I doubt there was enough indication that it was so blatant that "you must have known that the property was stolen". I'm sure plenty of players have little idea exactly how money are generated by their teams except that they know sponsors somehow help, but surely Azubu could have had a silent sponsor. This turn of events is sad, but not really surprising. It was always looking with high probability to be either 1) a rich person with no business sense, or 2) something very sketchy. I hope the players will manage, though I'm afraid the majority will retire with the current saturation of talent in Korea. | ||
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