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Meapak_Ziphh
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chaoser
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Meapak_Ziphh
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Liquid`Sheth
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kitaman27
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Liquid`Sheth
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This is directed at everyone, but the one scum here. | ||
bumatlarge
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Now your making it hard to lynch you! Though, I think you're too nice to say that, so you must be last scum! | ||
RebirthOfLeGenD
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WHATJOO GUYZ THINK? I'm going to be out all night. | ||
Qatol
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On January 01 2012 09:34 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I requested that we extend the day 24 hours, but I don't think Ver wants to. WHATJOO GUYZ THINK? I'm going to be out all night. If there isn't more activity, I'll twist Ver's arm into extending the day 24 hours. However, you guys should have enough time to figure out your lynch tomorrow. So assume the lynch ends in ~25 hours unless one of Ver, Incognito, or myself says otherwise. | ||
bumatlarge
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I'm pretty torn between meapak and sheth, but I could be wrong about kita. Is there any situation that RoL is scum? prphlz was pretty set on a bus for some reason, but I feel the events RoL came through are too favorable to ignore the others. I would have shot RoL over prphlz myself as scum. Meh, I think claiming is pretty safe now, alot of us could have been punished last night and were not. There is no reason to use vig hits from now on. I'd like to hear more thoughts on the motives and roles and hits and moles | ||
Meapak_Ziphh
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So reread and rethink bum because atm you're on the wrong track. And bum your sitaution having both Sheth and I claim rb if syllo doesn't die is extremely flimsy. I shot syllo. Let's wait for kita to give us status on his shot before you decide I'm scum. | ||
Meapak_Ziphh
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Bum what do you think about what I said? RoL are you alive? Why is this thread dead, am I the only one with no life? | ||
RebirthOfLeGenD
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chaoser
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kitaman27
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On January 01 2012 14:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Bum please think for a second. No one has claimed a hit on prp. Therefore either Kita or I have to be telling the truth. I already have confirmation from Ver that I no longer have my shot. It's really simple. Kita confirms/denies he still has his shot. If he still has his shot then we lynch Sheth and win. If he claims to not have his shot he's lying but I'm more than happy to flip town to prove him wrong since we have one mislynch. So until kita comes in and gives us a status about his shot we should be voting Sheth since he's scum (I think kita is town but maybe he'll surprise me and lie about his shot). So reread and rethink bum because atm you're on the wrong track. And bum your sitaution having both Sheth and I claim rb if syllo doesn't die is extremely flimsy. I shot syllo. Let's wait for kita to give us status on his shot before you decide I'm scum. I do not have my shot anymore. However, if you were a real vig, you would know that shots are not refunded if multiple players overlap on the same target. Can another vig confirm this fact? What are you trying to pull Meapak? :/ On January 02 2012 00:58 chaoser wrote: Happy New Years Guys! Happy New Years! | ||
Liquid`Sheth
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On January 02 2012 01:44 kitaman27 wrote: I do not have my shot anymore. However, if you were a real vig, you would know that shots are not refunded if multiple players overlap on the same target. Can another vig confirm this fact? What are you trying to pull Meapak? :/ Happy New Years! I can verify this from asking Ver myself. I'm not the mafia left, why would I claim shooting Meapak otherwise? I got roleblocked. This could be a meta play because they assumed I would shoot Kita or it could be just them trying to save Kita. Either way, if you want to check my validity we can wait another night and your welcome to tell me who to shoot. However there is always the chance I'll just continue to be blocked until the end. Think again about why I'd be so adamant to save LSB earlier. Its not because I'm mafia and have a list of the names of jobs, if I did there is no way I would have came out and said that sort of thing. And I wasn't taking a huge interest at the time, due to me being really sick, but once I saw something I new I could prevent as town I tried my best to stop it. I'm not sure yet who is scum, but I'll try and re-read some filters before tonight. As of now I actually think Meapak is clean, he called the hit previous to the night phase. And it happened. So hes clear, prpl is clear I know I'm clear and that leaves only RoL Bum and Kita. From my own previous logic I think RoL is clean, and I've definetly been leaning bum is clean as well. So all in all, as of right now before double checking all of this I'm thinking either Bum or Kita. I think if we can manage to kill bum / kita we should be fine. If we lynched one of those two tonight, I can kill the other unless I'm rb'ed, but there are chances that Syllo was the RB'er. Anyway thats what I'm at right now. | ||
kitaman27
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On December 29 2011 04:11 Liquid`Sheth wrote: KITAMAN27 This is purely many little things, some bigger things and everything I find even remotely fishy about "Kitaman27" Right off the bat early on in the game he noticed the vote count was off. And he had already voted something. For me when I'm town I never look at the voting count amount until much later. He was curious about both "chaoser and gm" for quite a big part of the early game. Pretty much his only post besides worrying about a lurker (Sheth, myself). He also "Expects more" from Foolishness, BC and GM" So, so far he has been curious or expected more from 4 confirmed townies and myself who is a townie as well. He then proceeds to say that it is tough to make a serious case against someone who only has two posts containing information he then says though that it is "not half-hearted". This is a blatant contradiction, its very hard to tell anything from just two posts and I find it weird that he wants to push someone based off of two posts. He then uses the words "would like to see him dead" When the Vigilante showdown AKA "LSB vs GM two vigilantes of different names" occurred his solution was terrible from a town point of view. He wanted them to have one shoot the other one and for the other one to shoot someone who "appears townie". This was I believe the first time I really looked at Kita as Scum . This seems to me silly, because it ends up killing everyone, not really helping us by giving us information and in the end is just a bad idea. We'd like our vigilantes to stay alive as at that point we really didn't know how many we had. I'm sure you can figure out the other reasons this was a bad idea. He then is not suspicious of RoL, but says that he "hopes to hear from RoL". This doesn't seem at all negative and if RoL is mafia as well as Kita it points to Kita reminding RoL to post here more. He then says that he wouldn't mind putting 7-8 votes on a lurker (Sheth, myself), but then really never tries to do that at all. He almost instantly changes his thought process and goes after someone else. Honestly I think it would have been smart to try and put more votes on me. I wouldn't have answered, but if I was just scumlurking then it would have pressured me out into at least saying something. He is then very curious about GM and his role and if he is roleblocked. I think it VERY likely that GM was in fact roleblocked. He was the obvious best choice for mafia to role block hands down. Kitaman27 then proceeds to ask "Would your bullet be refunded?" He is very curious about this townies power and what would happen if he was roleblocked. Just an interesting point for sure. He then proceeds to say in his big list that he is "leaning town on bugs" and that his main lynch candidate is on Prplhz. I don't know why he stopped pressuring the lurker (myself) or why he instantly went onto Prplhz here. I was very happy with what I'd seen from prplhz at this point. Syllogism was as well, pointing out that "prplhz has appeared very protown". Bugs then proceeded to try and start suspicion against Prplhz by asking if he was just bad in general or only as scum. Something I also thought was out of place. This didn't go anywhere and then he Bugs proceeds to switch his case onto BC when no one else agrees with voting out Prplhz. Kitaman27 has never really caused ANYONE major pressure. He hasn't had a passion of scum hunting. He has in the end done very nearly nothing for us. He should have at least kept up his pressure on the lurker (Myself) and been more passionate against Prplhz if he truly felt he was scummy. He then lists his ideal scumteam of -Foolishness, BC, Prplhz and L. 2 of which are confirmed town. Prplhz is just about confirmed town to me and then L. So he scum team is already been proven 2/4 wrong and almost 3/4 wrong. He also doesn't think I'm scum at all in these posts. Again going along with the theme of not really pressuring anyone, but merely putting some small spotlight onto these 4. After Prplhz reveals that he had killed WhereBugsGo Kita says sorry for accusing Prplhz. He was very against apologizing early and one of the reads early that we had was that in most cases here scum would be apologetic and simply try not to die by lynch or agravating someone by trigger or simply vig shot. As town is somewhat killing itself by shooting itself (vig shots). So at this point this post could be dangerous as well. Any, one or some of these posts taken separately wouldn't strike a chord. However all of them together ring in my ears. KitaMan27 is Scum On December 29 2011 04:17 Liquid`Sheth wrote: Yes I read the thread prplhz. I've read your argument against RoL. L and syllogism just went onto your bus and accepted him quietly. Chezinu hasn't posted yes, I see that. Thanks for posting some more against RoL though, thats what I was looking for. I agree that RoL should definetly be fighting much harder to not be killed here. As this is pretty much our last thought. I agree, with your logic on this and I'm happy to be voting RoL here. I'll put me vote for him right here as well. Foolishness did have some very good calls, I'll give him that. ##Vote: RebirthOfLegend Well Sheth, here is where we're at. Day three you posted your only analysis of the game against myself at LYLO, yet you never vote for me. You proceed to vote RoL after being "convinced" by arguments by prpl and Foolishness. Only until after the votes are moved over to L do you finally vote for him, as the final person on the wagon. On December 29 2011 03:19 Liquid`Sheth wrote: If one of Syllogism / L are mafia then the other is town. On December 29 2011 03:19 Liquid`Sheth wrote: L You've had good logic. You voted for Palmar day one which I find weird. I have a null read on you as well. Other then thinking that either BOTH you and sylogism are town or 1 is town 1 is mafia I really don't have a great read. I think there is very likely no chance your both mafia. On December 29 2011 06:40 Liquid`Sheth wrote: As already said, I don't think L and Syllogism are both mafia together. Meaning one of RoL, yourself or Chezinu is mafia in place of them. On December 31 2011 13:40 Liquid`Sheth wrote: Syll you are also pretty much confirmed town. You have been setting up a contrast in alignment between L and syllo all game long. There wasn't even a good argument for this reasoning. syllo directly mentioned that he planned to push me today and tried to get a vig to shoot me, after never mentioning me in the game prior to lylo. You're so adamant that L and syllo can't both be scum, yet never question that me and syllo wouldn't be scum? As for your "shot", for all we know, L could have been the roleblocker. If you were so adamant about lynching me according to your case, why are you calling a shot on chezinu? Because you believed he would be lynched at lylo, prior to me shooting syllo? I've gotten two scum killed this game. The closest you have come is voting for L 24 hours too late. ##Vote Liquid`Sheth | ||
bumatlarge
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##Vote Liquid`Sheth I do want to hear from RoL first, it would be a shame if the day went by without real game posts by him. Not his fault. | ||
RebirthOfLeGenD
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So I doubt Chezinu/Meapak is scum. So that leaves me with Sheth. ##Vote Liquid`Sheth | ||
Liquid`Sheth
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I assumed L and Syllogism weren't on the same team because of the way they were agressive to each other early in the game. Turns out syllogism is just agressive to his team mates. As to switching to L from RoL, you have that completely wrong. I was the one who said I have proof that RoL isn't mafia. I actually got the lynch switching from RoL to L and if I had just wanted to keep the lynch on RoL I wouldn't have done that. You've posted no logical reason I'd say that LSB wasn't mafia if I was mafia. I have his same role that was why I did that early on. I was debating whether to shoot Kita or Meapak pretty much all the time that night. At the end I decided that one of RoL or Chezinu was probably mafia and that while I thought you (Kita) were mafia I was slightly more sure it was Chezinu. And Kita, saying you've gotten two scum killed this game? Huh!? I really dislike your play quite a lot. And I'm still leaning towards you as scum. If you do lynch me, please lynch Kita the next turn. Or Bum have Kita get mad. Everyone should get "mad" as well so we have that kill shot as an option. For that purpose AH BUM YOUR A JERK AND IM MAD AT YOU. There, now if nothing else you can vig shot me, and I can vig shot someone this coming night, and at least one will get through even if a roleblocker is still around. I'm fine with this, for instance just have me *shoot* someone at night, your welcome to decide who, and have bumatlarge "shoot" me at night. After our lynch it'll bring it down to 2-1 then. If bumatlarge is rollblocked, it will be telling for me being mafia because I'll either have shot someone or not. I don't think 1 mafia can rollblock twice. And if bumatlarge's shot does go through well, then I'm dead and you'll know that I was town and we'll have had one more lynch as opposed to having 2 possible night phases. This is a much superior idea then just lynching me I think. If we do lynch me, we go down to 4-1, then its 3-1. Then you have one more chance to geuss and it'll be down to 2-1 and then 1-1 and mafia wins. So not lynching me, lynching Kita or RoL for instance and then having bum shoot, and myself shoot will allow us to eliminate the ammount of nights and increase our percentage to get the mafia. I'd rather have 3 townie shots and only 1 mafia shot, to 3 townie shots and 2 mafia shots. Please, this makes a lot more sense. At least think it through. I'm REALLY not mafia and lynching me would be a mistake. | ||
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