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That's a bad assumption. I might as well claim my trigger at this point, I'm a spam vig and I can shoot people who spam. wherebugsgo was one of the only people who qualified for that so that whole "mafia isn't triggering" thing doesn't hold.
- BloodyC0bbler was some sort of a claim vig I think, he said he could only shoot LSB and GMarshal and those two were the only ones who had claimed at that point.
- bumatlarge claimed for some reason he still didn't explain even though I asked him about it, he's a claimed mean vig who hasn't shot yet.
- RebirthOfLeGenD is a claimed lurker vig.
chaoser and Foolishness never explained what they were, and LSB and GMarshal didn't have any triggers.
@RebirthOfLeGenD Did you ever breadcrumb your role?
@bumatlarge Why did you claim?
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@Meapak, Don't think too much about it, chez is wierd 
@prphlz I don't see any reason not to claim, the remaining mafia aren't all of a sudden going to start being mean, and I wanted to give a lead night 2 on L:
On December 28 2011 13:58 bumatlarge wrote:
Well, I'm gonna claim, don't see much reason not too.
Surprise, I'm a vig as well. I'm a good manner vig, so if I could prove to Host that someone is being mean, I could shoot them. I assumed mafia would know about my role, so I played a little wacky to make people mad.
People who got mad:
Palmar
Thats about it. And he was traitor. I'm fairly certain mafia is playing around triggers, including mine. L has been a huge offender of this, picking up on what I was hinting at and not chancing that I was a defensive or investigative role. What if I was a DT who could check people who discuss set-ups, or a medic who can protect people who quote me 3 times or something. Because to mafia, I'm only ever going to be a vig. There is no other blue roles except vigs.
Also, I could probably shoot WBG, so he's either a super ballsy scum, or an innocent townie. I'm leaning latter. Kinda funny how the best way to use my role against passive scum is to never use it. But I'm proud of how I played it. Would secretly ally with chezinu again. I really have no idea what chezinu's alignment is, despite my interactions.
But Foolishness actually shooting him and crumbing the hit completely overshadowed it. There isn't much else to explain, I could have jumped on RoL along with the rest of you and we could have lost. It's better for you to trust me. I mean, I have quite a few triple posts in this thread, and you shot WBG over me, so you must think I'm pretty townie
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Bum why are you treating Chezinu/Meapak like a confirmed townie? That is to say you immediately appear to dismiss your multiple RBers theory and don't appear to care at all about Chezinu apparently lying about being roleblocked
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@syllogism What do you think about kitaman27?
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Leaning scum based on my last read, I'll probably have time to reread him later today
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I like that, I think he's a good lynch for tomorrow too.
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kitaman27
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On December 31 2011 00:43 syllogism wrote:
Leaning scum based on my last read, I'll probably have time to reread him later today
lolol. You haven't mentioned my name the entire game and now I'm suddenly scum based on your last read? At LYLO?
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This is good, syllo and prplhz agree'ing with me against kita. I still havn't re-read filters or anything, but I'll try and do it soon. As of now its 5 townies to 2 mafia. Just going to point out about vig shots tonight. After tonight, it'll be 4-2, so if you vig shot (with the suicide vig) and miss then its 2-2 and town loses, because we can no longer lynch. However, if you don't shoot and at 4-2, we lynch the wrong person its 2-2 and we lose as well. So I'd like to point out, that if we do a vig shot tonight, it should be a group decision. For instance, if there are 2 vig's, I don't want them shooting two different targets. This doesn't apply for the non-suicide vig also, because then its 3-2 and so forth if they shoot town.
We also know theres a roleblocker, and were not sure if it was L or not. Would be interesting to see how many vig shots we can do, and if we'd like to reach a town concensus to use it this round. I'll leave it at that for now.
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Leaving it at that, because if theres only 1 vigilante shot left, I don't want to give an easy target to the roleblocker. And I don't want anyone claiming they are a non-vig one, because then if we all come out and theres 2 vig's, we know which one they are going to block. (The non-suicide) one.
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United States2095 Posts
Right now my reads are
Leaning town heavily:
Prplhz
Syllogism
RoL
Myself
Leaning scum
Kita
Meapak
Borderlands
Bum
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I doubt kita is scum. He has had extremely similar play to myself if you disregard the chez era. Sure L, could have been a bus, but if we were both scum, we could have simply unvoted without fear and won the game? If only one of us, then Chez obviously take precedence.
I never hinted at chez being confirmed town at all. Just the oposite. I just feel bad for meapak. He didn't hammer a vote on to L, which seems rather straightforward if there are already 5 townies on L. Anyone not pushing meapak tomorrow needs to share with the class.
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On December 31 2011 02:47 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Right now my reads are
Leaning town heavily:
Prplhz
Syllogism
RoL
Myself
Leaning scum
Kita
Meapak
Borderlands
Bum
AINT NO REST FOR THE WICKED, MONEY DONT GROW ON TREES
Scum:
Meapak
Sheth
Everyone-else:
who cares
Chill dudes:
Me
RoL
Kita
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On December 31 2011 02:54 bumatlarge wrote:
I doubt kita is scum. He has had extremely similar play to myself if you disregard the chez era. Sure L, could have been a bus, but if we were both scum, we could have simply unvoted without fear and won the game? If only one of us, then Chez obviously take precedence.
I never hinted at chez being confirmed town at all. Just the oposite. I just feel bad for meapak. He didn't hammer a vote on to L, which seems rather straightforward if there are already 5 townies on L. Anyone not pushing meapak tomorrow needs to share with the class.
This is something that I disagree with. If you all took your votes off, there would have been a no-lynch on l. Then its 5-3 at night, you'll have two KP. However town now KNOWS who the 3 are. I didn't say this earlier, because I was hoping they would do this. So hopefully town has 1-2 shots of their own. So at the end of the night its probably 3-2 town ahead, which leads to a 3-1 town after the lynch and then 2-1, and town wins. Thats with only 1 kp vig shot.
Just pointing out I think your logic is wrong bum, and you pointing that out as logic for why your not mafia is scary to me. Your reads are also a bit weird, why do you say "everyone else" : who cares. I care about each and every one of you. :/
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On December 31 2011 03:59 Liquid`Sheth wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2011 02:54 bumatlarge wrote:
I doubt kita is scum. He has had extremely similar play to myself if you disregard the chez era. Sure L, could have been a bus, but if we were both scum, we could have simply unvoted without fear and won the game? If only one of us, then Chez obviously take precedence.
I never hinted at chez being confirmed town at all. Just the oposite. I just feel bad for meapak. He didn't hammer a vote on to L, which seems rather straightforward if there are already 5 townies on L. Anyone not pushing meapak tomorrow needs to share with the class. This is something that I disagree with. If you all took your votes off, there would have been a no-lynch on l. Then its 5-3 at night, you'll have two KP. However town now KNOWS who the 3 are. I didn't say this earlier, because I was hoping they would do this. So hopefully town has 1-2 shots of their own. So at the end of the night its probably 3-2 town ahead, which leads to a 3-1 town after the lynch and then 2-1, and town wins. Thats with only 1 kp vig shot. Just pointing out I think your logic is wrong bum, and you pointing that out as logic for why your not mafia is scary to me. Your reads are also a bit weird, why do you say "everyone else" : who cares. I care about each and every one of you. :/
Why would I care who is town? The object of the game is to oust scum, not figure out who is town. If they aren't on my radar, then I really don't see a reason to worry about them.
Hopefully isn't a guaranteed town win. If town had no viable shots or mafia has more then 1 roleblocker, we would have got off scott free. And that doesn't explain how kita and I generated the L lynch. The L lynch would not have happened and you guys would have stuck around on the RoL wagon for the rest of the lynch. I don't think there was much reason to go through all this trouble and then have this conversation if we could have been having a post-game conversation.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
prpl, Sheth, and L were all on RoL midway through the day cycle and chez looked as if he was never coming back. At 5v3, it is lylo and town needs A SINGLE TOWN VOTE to be off scum and its a mislynch or no lynch.
Could someone even remind me what the arguement is against me? That I was wrong on the first two days? So was everyone else that is still alive, but prpl, who shot bugs. The difference? I've been sharing my opinion, while others sheep, lurk, and vote whenever its conveneint for them. I was the only player to make a case against L, moving multiple votes off him (one of which was a town prpl) at LYLO.
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I never breadcrumbed my role, I just inferred I was going to kill someone before the day post.
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What about this post where you specifically talk about "activity queues" (lurking) that can trigger "divine intervention" (vig hit)? If you are not talking about your role here, then what are you talking about?
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Isn't that a reference to modkills? I mean really, you guys could tone down constant questions. I think I said this before, but it doesn't help as much as you think it might.
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Hey, Syllogism, if I was a unroleblockable Vigilante, who would u recomend I shoot?
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On December 31 2011 11:10 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Hey, Syllogism, if I was a unroleblockable Vigilante, who would u recomend I shoot?
Yourself would be nice, or meapak.
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