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89 Posts
December 08 2011 04:17 GMT
#40741
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unichan
United States4223 Posts
December 08 2011 04:32 GMT
#40742
Bangs Soyeon clearly > no bangs soyeon. | ||
orangecaramel
37 Posts
December 08 2011 04:36 GMT
#40743
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Ym1r
United States1164 Posts
December 08 2011 04:44 GMT
#40744
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0123456789
United States3216 Posts
December 08 2011 05:01 GMT
#40745
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Craton
United States17174 Posts
December 08 2011 05:05 GMT
#40746
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Fawkes
Canada1935 Posts
December 08 2011 05:08 GMT
#40747
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unichan
United States4223 Posts
December 08 2011 05:15 GMT
#40748
On December 08 2011 14:01 0123456789 wrote: My first thoughts to Soyeon being leader is, why the fuck wasn't she made leader sooner..... She or Eunjung are the only ones capable, Eunjung only because she's part of the original group. And then the next thing is hahahahahahah to all T-ara fans. One day Hwayoung gonna be leader, unless they kick her out before that. Because they wanted to make Boram feel better. | ||
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Where dat snitch at?36842 Posts
December 08 2011 05:21 GMT
#40749
Is it possible that we could separate the content in this thread to 2 separate threads? One titled: Korean Music Discussion and the other titled: Korean Idols Discussion Mainly because: I am someone who comes in to this thread looking for new and exciting music that have been released. But most of the time I find like 1 page of new music discussion, followed by 6 pages of pictures, then followed by 1 page of music discussion, followed by like 7 pages of pictures. Idk.... it's just really frustrating for me because this thread was originally created for discussing Korean Music and it seems to have developed into "post your favorite idols here and we will all give u our insights" thread..... Not trying to troll or anything here beacause I LOVE Kpop...... I just don't like that I have to search so hard to find some because most of the pages are filled with pics of everyone's favorite singer and not the actual music. So is it possible? Can we get 2 threads going? | ||
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Hong Kong4685 Posts
December 08 2011 05:21 GMT
#40750
Kim Young Min recently appeared on a Japanese show and shared his perspective. He's very fluent in Japanese. Here is an outline of some things discussed: Kpop artist train from 4 to 7 years before their debut at a cost of $20,000~$40,000 year each. The auditions are held around the world and those that make the first cut are brought to Korea to train and live in dorms. This is to train a high level of singing and dance skills, but more importantly, to train to behave and speak like a star from when they debut. This is reflected by what Korean fans expect from their IDOLS. Koreans think of IDOLS as someone to look up to, some one of greatness. In contrast, Japan considers IDOLS as amateurs in training to become celebrates. That is why Japan puts very little effort in training their IDOLS. People want to watch their favorite IDOLS develop over the years and graduate into celebrates. In other words, once an idol develops what it takes to be a star, they graduate from being a teen IDOL, and move on as real singers or actors. The other part is about world marketing. Kpop is actively researching the world thru the internet and other means to see potential markets and adjust to such markets. SM for example actively uses YouTube to promote their artist and videos. They also use the Youtube stats to find where Kpop is popular and where kpop is growing. Mr. Kim attributes the big success of their Kpop concert in Paris and the SNSD debut in Japan to their YouTube promotions. Another example of researching markets is the Japanese Vs Korean version of Gee. All kinds of details like clothing, hairstyle and dance was adjusted for each countries debut. The reason why SM looks to the world market is because the Korean music industry is small. As a company seeking profit, they have no choice but to sell over seas if they want to grow. Japan on the other hand, has a huge domestic market. All concerts over seas are for PR purposes to thank their over seas fans. In actuality, the same concert held in Japan would make 20 to 30 times more money. So, from a business point of view, it would be stupid to waste time promoting Jpop over seas until a ceiling is hit. When the number of concerts an artist can perform a year is more than the demands for concerts in japan, then Japan's music and entertainment industry will actively target over seas markets. Mr. Kims final point. even though SMTown is a Korean media company with Kpop artist right now, at heart, SMTown is a company just like Sony. He sees beyond Kpop and wants to be a dominant force in the world market. For example, when Kpop artist SNSD sings Gee in Japanese are they singing Kpop? It's actually Jpop by definition. For Mr. Kim it doesn't matter who sings what song in what language as long as the artist is signed to his company and he can maximize that artists sales. Just as Sony Entertainment has nothing to do with Japanese entertainment, SMTown might go global and Kpop might become just one small part of their entire music empire. | ||
Xenocide_Knight
Korea (South)2625 Posts
December 08 2011 05:23 GMT
#40751
On December 08 2011 14:21 Seeker wrote: Can I ask you guys something? Is it possible that we could separate the content in this thread to 2 separate threads? One titled: Korean Music Discussion and the other titled: Korean Idols Discussion Mainly because: I am someone who comes in to this thread looking for new and exciting music that have been released. But most of the time I find like 1 page of new music discussion, followed by 6 pages of pictures, then followed by 1 page of music discussion, followed by like 7 pages of pictures. Idk.... it's just really frustrating for me because this thread was originally created for discussing Korean Music and it seems to have developed into "post your favorite idols here and we will all give u our insights" thread..... Not trying to troll or anything here beacause I LOVE Kpop...... I just don't like that I have to search so hard to find some because most of the pages are filled with pics of everyon'e favorite singer and not the actual music. So is it possible? Can we get 2 threads going? No that's silly, idol and image is an integral part of korean music. Just wait for Seditary's posts | ||
DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
December 08 2011 05:26 GMT
#40752
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Ruffian
United States369 Posts
December 08 2011 05:26 GMT
#40753
On December 08 2011 14:21 Seeker wrote: Can I ask you guys something? Is it possible that we could separate the content in this thread to 2 separate threads? One titled: Korean Music Discussion and the other titled: Korean Idols Discussion Mainly because: I am someone who comes in to this thread looking for new and exciting music that have been released. But most of the time I find like 1 page of new music discussion, followed by 6 pages of pictures, then followed by 1 page of music discussion, followed by like 7 pages of pictures. Idk.... it's just really frustrating for me because this thread was originally created for discussing Korean Music and it seems to have developed into "post your favorite idols here and we will all give u our insights" thread..... Not trying to troll or anything here beacause I LOVE Kpop...... I just don't like that I have to search so hard to find some because most of the pages are filled with pics of everyone's favorite singer and not the actual music. So is it possible? Can we get 2 threads going? As much as I would love for this it probably won't happen. Idols(including their image, etc) and their music do go hand-in-hand. It makes sense to keep it all in one thread. Just start posting about music and other people will probably follow suit and discuss it ^^ | ||
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Where dat snitch at?36842 Posts
December 08 2011 05:28 GMT
#40754
On December 08 2011 14:23 Xenocide_Knight wrote: Show nested quote + On December 08 2011 14:21 Seeker wrote: Can I ask you guys something? Is it possible that we could separate the content in this thread to 2 separate threads? One titled: Korean Music Discussion and the other titled: Korean Idols Discussion Mainly because: I am someone who comes in to this thread looking for new and exciting music that have been released. But most of the time I find like 1 page of new music discussion, followed by 6 pages of pictures, then followed by 1 page of music discussion, followed by like 7 pages of pictures. Idk.... it's just really frustrating for me because this thread was originally created for discussing Korean Music and it seems to have developed into "post your favorite idols here and we will all give u our insights" thread..... Not trying to troll or anything here beacause I LOVE Kpop...... I just don't like that I have to search so hard to find some because most of the pages are filled with pics of everyon'e favorite singer and not the actual music. So is it possible? Can we get 2 threads going? No that's silly, idol and image is an integral part of korean music. Just wait for Seditary's posts, you'll be ok. What? How exactly? I come in to this thread because I want to see new and exciting songs that are being discussed about because the title says "Korean Music Discussion". If I wanted to see pictures and discussions of my favorite idols I would go in to a thread titled "Korean Idols Discussion." It just makes more sense to me that's all :/ | ||
unichan
United States4223 Posts
December 08 2011 05:29 GMT
#40755
it's not going to change | ||
DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
December 08 2011 05:29 GMT
#40756
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Where dat snitch at?36842 Posts
December 08 2011 05:33 GMT
#40757
On December 08 2011 14:29 unichan wrote: we've had this discussion before it's not going to change Oh.... I wasn't aware that we had a discussion like this previously. If u don't mind me asking, could you link me to the discussion? I am intrigued to see what kind of responses people gave. | ||
Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
December 08 2011 05:36 GMT
#40758
Have some kjk. | ||
MethodSC
United States928 Posts
December 08 2011 05:43 GMT
#40759
On December 08 2011 14:33 Seeker wrote: Show nested quote + On December 08 2011 14:29 unichan wrote: we've had this discussion before it's not going to change Oh.... I wasn't aware that we had a discussion like this previously. If u don't mind me asking, could you link me to the discussion? I am intrigued to see what kind of responses people gave. These kids don't like music, they like goggling at idols all day and that's good enough for them. You can't change people, they have to change themselves. They'll eventually get bored and realize it's all a waste of time and then they might go and do something else, but until then, this is the Kpop idol image dump all day every day thread. | ||
Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
December 08 2011 05:48 GMT
#40760
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