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samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-30 23:19:07
June 30 2009 22:19 GMT
#1
They have lost the battle. T.T. This sucks, if Pirate Bay stepped down, many other trackers will go down with it and the pirate side will take a huge blow from the IP war. This pretty much sucks. Apparently a company called Global Gaming Factory X bought out Pirate bay for 7.8 Million dollars. Torrent sites were already closing down since the lawsuit, but this is just a big blow, well I guess the guys in jail are trying to bail themselves out seemingly as they were already each in dept of 1 mil I think in lawsuits. This is a big blow to piracy. You cant really stop piracy, but this may cause it to go even more underground and may cause more big sites to back out.

Edit: To clarify, Pirate Bay has taken the Pay2DL which is really ineffective in a P2P sharing based community as it will cut down the community by a lot, rendering the site completely useless and the system completely useless. Hence decreasing the effectiveness of the site as a whole as torrent is seeder-sharing based P2P system.

I actually think the company is playing really risky to expect to make any sort of money out of this. They will probably lose in the long run, this isnt going to work, the business model wont work due to the P2P torrent system itself, so its just basically giving the PB creators money which is lol. But it sucks to see Pirate Bay go down, it was one of the best sites out there, I use Demonoid and Mininova mainly, but I use Pirate bay as a 3rd resort sometimes. The business model wont work, the piracy industry will evolve and its kind of hard to stop it.

Articles here:
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The Pirate Bay Sold To Software Company, Goes Legal
Written by enigmax on June 30, 2009

According to gaming company Global Gaming Factory X, it is in the the process of acquiring The Pirate Bay for $7.8m (SEK 60 million). The acquisition is scheduled to be completed by August and will see the site launch new business models to compensate content providers and copyright owners.

Software company Global Gaming Factory X (GGF) says it is in the process of acquiring The Pirate Bay and file-sharing technology company Peerialism. GGF claims to have the biggest network of internet cafés and gaming centers in the world.

The changeover of ownership is scheduled for August 2009, whereby GGF will take over the operation of the site.

The company says that after it has completed the acquisition it will launch new business models so that copyright owners get paid, which is clearly a huge diversion from TPB’s previous modus operandi.

“We would like to introduce models which entail that content providers and copyright owners get paid for content that is downloaded via the site,” said Hans Pandeya, CEO GGF.

“The Pirate Bay is a site that is among the top 100 most visited Internet sites in the world. However, in order to live on, The Pirate Bay requires a new business model, which satisfies the requirements and needs of all parties, content providers, broadband operators, end users, and the judiciary,” said Pandeya.

“Content creators and providers need to control their content and get paid for it. File sharers’ need faster downloads and better quality,” he added.

GGF will acquire the site’s domain names and sites for SEK 60,000,000 ($7.8 million) - SEK 30,000,000 in cash and the rest in newly issue shares.

File-sharing technology company Peerialism will also be acquired by GGF for a total of SEK 100 million, of which at least SEK 50 million will be in cash.

According to GGF, Peerialism has developed a new P2P distribution technology which will be used on The Pirate Bay. The technology is said to be backwards-compatible with BitTorrent although details are scarce at the moment.

At the time of writing, shares in GGF are up 155% - this will quickly become outdated, so check here for latest stats.

This is breaking news and this article will be updated constantly - please keep checking back.


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The Pirate Bay Will Decentralize Its Operations (Updated)
Written by Ernesto on June 30, 2009

Alongside the news that The Pirate Bay will sell shares on the Swedish stock market come some other significant changes. The site itself will decentralize and stop hosting and tracking torrents. Instead, The Pirate Bay will use a third party tracker and torrent hosting service to serve its users.

pirate bayEarlier today The Pirate Bay announced that it would be acquired by Global Gaming Factory X (GGF) who are listed on the Swedish stock market. So, Pirate Bay users can not only share files but they can buy a share of the site as well.

Perhaps even more significant for the BitTorrent community is the thus far unreported decision to close down the BitTorrent tracker. Up until today Pirate Bay’s public tracker connected more than half of all BitTorrent users but this is about to change.

Pirate Bay’s Peter Sunde has informed TorrentFreak that the site will soon decentralize and stop running a BitTorrent tracker of its own. Instead they will encourage their users to use a yet to be launched third party tracker for their torrents.

To decentralize even further, the torrents that will be listed on the site wont be hosted on The Pirate Bay’s servers anymore. In the near future the site will use a new torrent hosting service that will store the torrents for them. This new hosting service will be open to other torrent sites as well and can be accessed through an API.

In the end The Pirate Bay is making these changes to ensure that the BitTorrent ecosystem stays intact no matter what happens, Peter Sunde told TorrentFreak. By decentralizing the different aspects they hope that BitTorrent users will be less reliant on the uptime of The Pirate Bay’s servers alone. The burden will now be spread among several independently operated services.

For now it remains a mystery what GGF CEO Hans Pandeya meant with “We would like to introduce models which entail that content providers and copyright owners get paid for content that is downloaded via the site.” That’s worrying to say the least.

In addition, GGF also acquired Peerialism who apparently have developed a new P2P distribution technology which will be used on The Pirate Bay. How this related to the new tracker and external torrent hosting remains unknown.

We’re trying to get confirmation and more details from GGF as soon as possible.

Update: According to Johan Sellström, the CTO of Global Gaming Factory, the plans have changed after Peter Sunde talked to us. “We had discussed closing it down initially so I think that’s why he said so. The plan is to use technology from Peerialism that makes bandwidth utilization more efficient and then it would not make sense to shut it down,” he said, adding. “Peerialism will modify the tracker but it will be backwards compatible. But all this is subject to change if for some reason it would not work. It is our ambition to do so.”


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Pirate Bay Heads to Davy Jones’ Locker
By David Kravets
broken_pirateThe announced sale of The Pirate Bay to a Swedish software concern Tuesday is the biggest development in file sharing since 2001, when Napster shuttered after a U.S judge ordered it to remove all copyrighted music from its free service.

The founders of 5-year-old Pirate Bay at one time appeared invincible as they stuck out their middle fingers to the establishment, refusing to remove copyrighted material even after receiving takedown notices. With a following of some 20-plus million users, that invincibility — which invited government intervention — careened head on with The Pirate Bay’s four co-founders’ April convictions in a Stockholm court for facilitating copyright infringement.

With the pending $7.7 million sale to Global Gaming Factory X AB, the site will go legitimate as did Napster– meaning the world’s most notorious BitTorrent tracker will not longer point the way to free downloads of copyrighted music, movies, software and games. The myth is over that the Pirate Bay would carry on as an underground site, even if its co-founders lost their appeals and went to prison for a year.

The Pirate Bay, in short, is heading to Davy Jones’ Locker.

“The Pirate Bay is a site that is among the top 100 most visited internet sites in the world. However, in order to live on, The Pirate Bay requires a new business model, which satisfies the requirements and needs of all parties, content providers, broadband operators, end users, and the judiciary,” Hans Pandeya, Global Gaming’s chief executive, said in astatement. “Content creators and providers need to control their content and get paid for it.”

On its blog, The Pirate Bay wrote, “On the internets, stuff dies if it doesn’t evolve. We don’t want that to happen.”

The surprise announcement that The Pirate Bay has walked the plank has sent heads spinning. Many of the site’s users are mocking the decision as an affront to the co-founders’ stated ideal that nothing will take down Pirate Bay, and that content should be free.

“I always had a sneaking suspicion that when Pirate Bay sold their company it wouldn’t be for free,” sethmeyers21 wrote on Twitter.

The Bay’s users are also mulling where to turn for more online freebies. ZeroPaid maintains an updated catalog of torrent trackers that is broken down into niches for adult, anime, games, general, movie, music, software and television.

In the trial’s aftermath, however, the torrenting world has changed, perhaps making it more difficult to follow The Pirate Bay’s initial footsteps.

For example, several BitTorrent trackers across the globe have shuttered. The verdict has emboldened copyright authorities to crack down on torrent sites. File sharing in Sweden, The Pirate Bay’s home, has dropped. Mininova, one of the world’s largest BitTorrent indexers, has also begun moving toward legitimacy.

Following Tuesday’s announced sale, the content industry is cautiously optimistic that The Pirate Bay is taking on water and about to sink.

“We don’t know the details and there are many questions to ask about how this will work in practice, but we would be delighted if this resulted in The Pirate Bay turning into a legitimate licensed service,” said John Kennedy, chairman of the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry, the world’s leading recording industry trade group that helped bring the criminal case against The Pirate Bay.

Elizabeth Kaltman, a spokeswoman for the Motion Picture Association of America, said the movie studios “don’t have enough information to comment at this time. We of course always support the ever-growing array of legitimate options for consumers to get movies and television shows in convenient and flexible ways.”

After weeks of testimony and delays ending April 17, Pirate Bay administrators Fredrik Neij, Gottfrid Svartholm Warg and Peter Sunde were found guilty in the case, along with Carl Lundström, who was convicted of funding the 5-year-old operation. They face a year in prison and millions in fines.

But it’s unclear whether a new Pirate Bay will go the way of Napster obscurity.

Napster once boasted as many as 70 million users and has quietly fallen off the map since it recently became a paid music service. Still, Napster was replaced by the likes of Gnutella, Kazaa, Limewire, and even The Pirate Bay and others.

Will the next Pirate Bay please stand up?


Sources:
http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-sold-to-software-company-goes-legal-090630/http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-closes-its-tracker-removes-torrents-090630/
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/06/pirate-bay-heads-to-davy-jones-locker/

Added a new article, pretty good article by wired,
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
June 30 2009 22:21 GMT
#2
I don't see why this matters. They can just create another site.

Why would a company buy the pirate bay?
lazymej
Profile Joined February 2006
Canada269 Posts
June 30 2009 22:23 GMT
#3
Perhaps because it already has an established reputation and user base?...





Which would leave once it goes legit? lol
^_~
zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-30 22:23:30
June 30 2009 22:23 GMT
#4
userbase?
edit: beaten
its me, tasteless,s roomate LOL!
MeriaDoKk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Chile1726 Posts
June 30 2009 22:25 GMT
#5
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Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7582 Posts
June 30 2009 22:25 GMT
#6
I just confirmed it through PB's forum.

This is going to cause a big commotion...
Stuck.
Dariush
Profile Joined April 2007
Romania330 Posts
June 30 2009 22:39 GMT
#7
The core of the internet piracy is "the scene", pirate bay is just a distribution channel, it goes down another one comes up. Plus pirate bay is a public tracker, which makes it even less important to the core. I never used it anyway, i'll stick to my private trackers.
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
June 30 2009 22:41 GMT
#8
On July 01 2009 07:25 MeriaDoKk wrote:
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This. How people cant see it is beyond me... how making a copy of something is stealing is also beyond me.

Is it stealing to make a photo copy of a book?
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
superjoppe
Profile Joined December 2004
Sweden3683 Posts
June 30 2009 22:44 GMT
#9
On July 01 2009 07:19 samachking wrote:
They have lost the battle. T.T.

Wtf? Have you even cared to read their own blog post? This is a huge win for legal ways to buy culture using the Internet in an effective way (which have been close to none so far).

PB might change owner

Yes, it's true.

News reached the press today in Sweden - The Pirate Bay might get aquired by Global Gaming Factory X AB.

A lot of people are worried. We're not and you shouldn't be either!

TPB is being sold for a great bit underneath it's value if the money would be the interesting part. It's not. The interesting thing is that the right people with the right attitude and possibilities keep running the site.
As all of you know, there's not been much news on the site for the past two-three years. It's the same site essentially. On the internets, stuff dies if it doesn't evolve. We don't want that to happen.

We've been working on this project for many years. It's time to invite more people into the project, in a way that is secure and safe for everybody. We need that, or the site will die. And letting TPB die is the last thing that is allowed to happen!

If the new owners will screw around with the site, nobody will keep using it. That's the biggest insurance one can have that the site will be run in the way that we all want to. And - you can now not only share files but shares with people. Everybody can indeed be the owner of The Pirate Bay now. That's awesome and will take the heat of us.

The old crew is still around in different ways. We will also not stop being active in the politics of the internets - quite the opposite. Now we're fueling up for going into the next gear. TPB will have economical muscles to let people evolve it. It will team up with great technicians to evolve the protocols. And we, the people interested in more than just technology, will have the time to focus on that. It's win-win-win.

The profits from the sale will go into a foundation that is going to help with projects about freedom of speech, freedom of information and the openess of the nets. I hope everybody will help out in that and realize that this is the best option for all. Don't worry - be happy!
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-30 22:51:23
June 30 2009 22:45 GMT
#10
If I tell you that my Pirate Bay supporter t-shirt that I bought online 1 month ago. Just got here today, 2 hours ago. Would you believe it?

Not sure if I'm gonna wear it now. lol

Well, to be honest it does look like a happy ending. They get to pay their bail and end up with some extra million dollars lol? I wouldn't be surprised if Peter Sonde would just come up with something new, better but harder to track back to him.

Whatever.. back to E-Mule ^^

edit: oh, thanks superjoppe, I really shouldn't have posted before checking piratebyran first ¬¬
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-30 22:45:57
June 30 2009 22:45 GMT
#11
On July 01 2009 07:41 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
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This. How people cant see it is beyond me... how making a copy of something is stealing is also beyond me.

Is it stealing to make a photo copy of a book?


according to several laws, yes. It is breaking copyright. Look at the back of the book, it says so.
U Gotta Skate.
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
June 30 2009 22:46 GMT
#12
Eventually all the torrent sites would just move to China :D
:]
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5417 Posts
June 30 2009 22:46 GMT
#13
On July 01 2009 07:41 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
Is it stealing to make a photo copy of a book?


Yes it is, according to the law (and logic?) That's why we have copyright laws.
LuckyOne
Profile Joined December 2006
266 Posts
June 30 2009 22:46 GMT
#14
On July 01 2009 07:41 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
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This. How people cant see it is beyond me... how making a copy of something is stealing is also beyond me.

Is it stealing to make a photo copy of a book?

cause the value resides in its content not its material form?
Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-30 22:49:02
June 30 2009 22:48 GMT
#15
I dont really think people will bother with the new system even if you get payed for uploading. Also I doubt that the industry wants to accept any kind of payment for this since they are dinosaurs.
But time will tell if I'm wrong.
I have the best fucking lawyers in the country including the man they call the Malmis.
UmmTheHobo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States650 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-30 22:52:11
June 30 2009 22:48 GMT
#16
I don't really see how this could affect the pirating community. I mean all The Pirate Bay did was host links right? ez pz to host links somewhere else.

EDIT: I think all big Pirate sites should have a feature to allow users to backup all the links onto there computer so if it gets shut down some one can copy paste tons of links off there computer onto another website, thus making the shutdown mean virtually nothing.
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VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
June 30 2009 22:48 GMT
#17
On July 01 2009 07:46 SoleSteeler wrote:
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On July 01 2009 07:41 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
Is it stealing to make a photo copy of a book?


Yes it is, according to the law (and logic?) That's why we have copyright laws.
I think people are talking about the ethical meaning. Not the legal meaning.

Which does not always walk together
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10446 Posts
June 30 2009 22:49 GMT
#18
Maybe the company that bought them out is just some made-up company funded by the RIAA 8 million to kill the largest piracy site is a bargain if you ask me
brambolius
Profile Joined January 2006
Netherlands448 Posts
June 30 2009 22:49 GMT
#19
On July 01 2009 07:25 MeriaDoKk wrote:
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win
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-30 23:02:24
June 30 2009 22:50 GMT
#20
On July 01 2009 07:25 MeriaDoKk wrote:
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haha, excellent

ON a related note, PirateBay has gone down hill for the last fea years anyways. Every time I search either nothing or completely unrelated shit comes up (search engine sucks). And when stuff does actually come up - I usually check the seeds and leeches and compare it with similar files on mininova or something and Pirate usually has less so I never use it anyways.

The one thing I did love about Pirate though; is the comments. People leave lots of important info about quality of cam rips, viruses, etc.

So long piratebay, it was a good run. But remember, a good captain must go down with his ship (sellouts).
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
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