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yeah fog is far and away the best option for day 1. Depending on how the clues look, I can see snow working for day 2. The important thing about being able to list check is it gives us more information to pick from for our double lynches. I don't want to be working largely off clues/behavior if the oppurtunity for list checking exists. e: spelling | ||
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On July 03 2009 16:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote: List check only works in ideal conditions like A) town being smart and breaking off into vote lists on top suspects and checking them seperately B) Dt's being competent and then knowing who to supply info with C) taking an enormous amount of time to pin pledges. For now, reducing their kp is a higher priority. After day 1 if we don't fog, we should move into rain. But depends on how many pledges there are, and if we succesfully first lynch one. B is the only real hurdle. And it is a big one, I acknowledge that. When we can provide the town 2-3 suspects to vote for, it's not hard to split the voters into groups. Just do it alphabetically. Organizing a list check clearly benefits the town - and therefore any pledges must play along and vote for the designated person, lest they appear suspicious by not voting/voting incorrectly etc. I don't know if this takes an enormous amount of time... maybe 1-2 days to see results? That said the only way I would go with snow on Day 2 is if the clue writing is very favorable. Otherwise fog/rain are superior choices. Plexa: i may have missed this, but can the emperor be checked by the mystic's ability, or will he just be revealed as "emperor"? | ||
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On July 04 2009 01:20 redtooth wrote: All will be revealed in due time my friend. There was a reason why I didn't explain myself. ... And it's a better reason than reducing mafia kp night 1 by voting for foggy? Praytell, redtooth, what trickery is this? On a sidenote i wish this is how the weather was like in real life. Don't want to go to school today? Vote snow!! | ||
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On July 04 2009 01:54 Foolishness wrote: Even if you were an assassin, using a kill the first night when there's not as much information to go around is risky. Assassins are better off waiting until we can pin down for sure suspects. Right now fog is probably the best option, go read through Pyrry's and BC's posts as they have the best reasoning. I know fog is our best choice -- which is why I'm skeptical of redtooth's idea here. | ||
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The thing is I thought it was pretty obvious MBH was innocent after his election bid. Literally nobody voted for him. Whenever a mafia candidate runs, they always get votes. Every time. --- The big problem with this is our medics have to now focus on protecting the priest, which leaves other players open to get fucked and die. Actually, they don't HAVE to, but people are posting as if it's the only option. This pretty much forces us into voting Rain for Night 2, because if we vote Fog we run the risk of mafia figuring out who the priest is and bombing him, taking out the medics in the process. So even though Fog is sort like a pseudo-medic, we are forced into voting Rain, which lets the mafia use their kp to its maximum extent. edited some formatting | ||
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On July 07 2009 00:50 Foolishness wrote: You need to change that "shit" to "good analysis", then move the shit in between "L's" and "posts", then change sad face to happy face. All better! speaking of shit posts | ||
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On July 06 2009 23:42 StorZerg wrote: but it won't be a mafia member correct? also is it a big chance the mafia will try their hardest to get MBH killed again, so that we the townies are left with no one to trust again? First question: yes, it will be a radom townie. like how he picks bodyguards. Second question: probably. MBH is a good player, everyone knows that. Whether the mafia want to kill him or not will be dependent on the game state when he is alive. If both medics are alive they might predict MBH will be covered and not worth hitting (especially if we vote rain). If we lose our medics before he is rezzed, which is very possible, then of course they will it him and essentially nullify 3 days of work - but think of it as basically -1 kp, since MBH was already dead at one point. Since MBH is confirmed innocent if he gets rezzed, when the mafia kills him we gain no new information (other than a clue). | ||
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Some of your analysis is off as well BC. You need to read posts in the context of the thread, not in a vacuum. For example ydg goes "if the priest roleclaims publicaly, once we have the mafia down to 4 kp, put all angels on him and vote rain every day, mafia can never kill the priest." You takes this and reply with "Ydg wants us to concentrate on finding out who the priest is." This seems to me like a deliberate twisting of his words - ydg posted a possible plan of action in the case of the priest publically revealing himself - not a plan to figure out the priest, which could only be done through clues. It's a stupid plan and obviously not worth the effort, but maybe that is why absolutely nobody replied to it! The entirety of your post is like this. I'm not going to discuss every piece of it. It really gives off the impression that you are grasping at straws here, rather than forming an insightful analysis of someone's postings. My advice applies to everyone: READ POSTS IN THE CONTEXT OF THE THREAD, NOT IN A VACUUM | ||
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On July 07 2009 01:24 StorZerg wrote: Thanks  by medics do you mean angles?yeah. i'm using the terminology from the old mafia games out of habit  | ||
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On July 07 2009 05:26 Foolishness wrote: iNfuNdiBuLuM, you have abstained from voting thus far. If you really think ydg is innocent, why have you not taken any direct action against it? The vote (at least right now) is close and you have yet to accuse anyone else or suggest that someone else be lynched instead of ydg. I abstained last night because I hadn't read the thread. After reading it, not a whole lot of the clue analysis had brought up any links I felt were particularly strong. Maybe truthbringer. Maybe the pulsating colorful wound link to iLoveKT's picture. But that's about it. I'll vote when I feel like it. Why do I have to suggest an alternative? Being unsatisfied with the current options does not mean I have to put forth new ones, especially if I can't find anything worthwhile (I have looked). That being said, the summary of your post here reads, "We should not listen to BC, but I could care less who dies". It seems to me you are against BC, not against ydg being lynched. No, that is not what I said in my post. I said BC had taken some of ydg's posts and misrepresented them. I want to make sure others reading the thread are aware of this. I didn't say anything about lynching someone else, but that doesn't mean I "don't care who dies." edit: fixed tags | ||
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Also, I take it we are not double lynching today? BC hasn't said anything about that I don't think. Personally I don't think we have any strong enough suspects to o a double lynch. If we do it next day, we can create 2 lists to be checked as long as Fog isn't voted in. Which leads me to my next: I haven't seen many people talking about what weather they are voting in. I am voting in rain - last thing I want to see is the priest getting kamikaze'd. It's a close call between rain and fog though, because there's no guarantee the mafia or the medics will figure out who the priest is, and we can gamble that and shave off a kp. Hm. Rain seems safer because it prevents the worst case scenario. | ||
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On July 07 2009 06:50 Foolishness wrote: Do you think the DT's are in a good position to be list checking right now? I believe it was previously discussed that list checkings are useful only if coordinated properly. It seems a bit early for that to be happening. Not to mention, 13 people still haven't voted. What if none of the pledges have voted yet? So much for list checking.... Like I said I would rather double lynch (and hopefully list check) Day 3. Even if the mystic can't contact anyone immediately, he has this information and can use it at his discretion. Of course if he gets killed then... that sucks. And honestly the longer we wait, the more chance that the mystic dies before he gets to do the check. AFAIK the list check only is done after voting finishes and the lynch happens. You can't list check in the middle of an election. If none of the pledges vote, then they don't show up on the list check, so guess where they are.... in the list of non-voters! As always, the biggest obstacle (as it should be) is coordinating tt. | ||
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i think both ydg and truthbringer are innocent though. voting for TB because in my eyes, he has a higher chance of being red, | ||
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Caller, the way I interpreted that writing was that the "roar" was either the roar of gunfire or an alarm, not the mafioso's signal. Especially since it's described as "prolonged". It is a funky word choice though, I'll give you that. | ||
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On July 09 2009 02:34 inertinept wrote: are you trying to act like mafia? people are already suspicious of you... fog halves the killing power of PLEDGES and we got rid of a MAFIA, fog is actually very good. add to the fact that we really dont need vote list checks this early and it guarantees a low kill night while we gather up more information. how is fog bad again? The reason to vote rain was that mafia could not use the suicide bomber, and it let angels protect two (TWO!) targets instead of one. Now, if mafia figures out who the priest is we are positively fucked, because it stops then plan the we have invested the majority of our energy into, with the goal of bringing back MBH. Note that I don't even think we should be in this situation in the first place (...BC), but we have to work with it. During voting, nobody (except the mafia) knew if the lynch would be green, blue, pledge, or mafia - we had to vote based on the choice that was most likely to be the best. If I KNEW we were going to lynch a mafia and not a pledge I would have considered voting fog. Rain was the conservative choice that was very likely to have given us a confirmed townie. Now, even though the kp has been lowered to 3 during the fog, the angels and priest are in the open to be sniped. Do you see why this could be bad? | ||
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On July 10 2009 04:36 redtooth wrote: regardless, that series of PMs have absolutely no benefit as they were a troll response to lucas's trolling. yup, i was messing around. i already explained to caller why his link to me doesn't make sense btw. | ||
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