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BeautifulJudas
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
New Zealand33 Posts
May 28 2009 18:59 GMT
#1
I've just watched this documentary on YouTube called Meet Your Meat, it's quite shocking:



Is anyone here a vegetarian? For those who aren't, what are your thoughts after watching that?
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
May 28 2009 19:04 GMT
#2
I saw it awhile back. I still eat meat, but mostly I try avoid. It makes me sick to think that this poor pig or chicken I'm eating has gone trough that. Not to mention, their feeding isnt natural.
The big question is rather, by buying meat you actually support this industry, is that something you agree with, is it right? without us buyers, it wouldnt exist. I think about that alot.
InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
May 28 2009 19:06 GMT
#3
hmmm I am scared to watch the video. I like meat way to much to let anything turn me off too it. I shall live in ignorance thank you
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
May 28 2009 19:08 GMT
#4
If you care about animal welfare, the production of animal products like milk and eggs is much worse than the production of meat. Eating a chicken patty involves slaughtering a chicken, while eating eggs involves a lifetime of suffering for that chicken.

I still eat milk, eggs, and meat. But I'm not proud of it.
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Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
May 28 2009 19:08 GMT
#5
I have a few friends who are vegetarian. Personally, I wouldn't mind living off of tofu if I could actually bring myself to take a vow of no meat. The main issue is that meat is so good!!! I'm basically saying meat is good, but not a necessity. I've considered it seeing as vegetarian diets can be a lot healthier, but never really made a commitment, for lack of a good reason beside being a vegetarian.
Aegraen
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1225 Posts
May 28 2009 19:09 GMT
#6
Can't watch it right now, but we are on the top of the food chain. Doesn't matter how the animals were killed ultimately the question is, is the food of better use eaten, or letting to decompose when the animal dies?

Obviously you can't wait 10+ years for animals to die to run a business.

To Phan, I think too many people get caught up in the fallacy that 'natural' = good. Many 'natural' things are horrible for your health, in fact, most things that are natural are. If most things natural were so good, then our early ancestors would have been much better off, sadly they weren't.
"It is easy to be conspicuously 'compassionate' if others are being forced to pay the cost." -- Murray N. Rothbard -- Rand Paul 2010 -- Ron Paul 2012
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
May 28 2009 19:11 GMT
#7
Meat is delicious. The less you eat the more I have (theoretically).

Of course I don't really care too much for animal welfare. Sure having animals (ie saving them from extinction, whatnot) are nice, but needs of humans > needs of animals.

This video doesn't bother me at all.
Ronald_McD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada807 Posts
May 28 2009 19:12 GMT
#8
Excuse me while I go downstairs and cook up some tasty pork chops
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BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
May 28 2009 19:17 GMT
#9
Circle of life if a lion mauled me and tried to eat me I wouldn't hold anything against him. I am however considering becoming a vegetarian, but not because of PETA videos which I've seen a bunch of while eating meat.
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Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
May 28 2009 19:21 GMT
#10
Bear in mind these animals wouldn't exist if we weren't breeding them for food.
The world is a cruel place, just watch some nature documentaries if you don't already realise the reality of life.
Cute little seals murder and eat fish alive, oh noes~~
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baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10708 Posts
May 28 2009 19:25 GMT
#11
On May 29 2009 04:09 Aegraen wrote:
Can't watch it right now, but we are on the top of the food chain. Doesn't matter how the animals were killed ultimately the question is, is the food of better use eaten, or letting to decompose when the animal dies?

Obviously you can't wait 10+ years for animals to die to run a business.

To Phan, I think too many people get caught up in the fallacy that 'natural' = good. Many 'natural' things are horrible for your health, in fact, most things that are natural are. If most things natural were so good, then our early ancestors would have been much better off, sadly they weren't.


i want to throw up every time you type a post, your stupidity is so overwhelming im sure a great part of it its just for trolling purposes.

Nobody is discussing the top of the foodchain, the fact we eat meat doesnt mean we have to make the annimal suffer for it entire life only to cut expenses, animals MUST be treated with dignity and minimizing pain.
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baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10708 Posts
May 28 2009 19:26 GMT
#12
By the way why is vegetarianism a solution for this? a person who fights for better treatment of animals is more effective than a vegetarian imo.
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
May 28 2009 19:29 GMT
#13
On May 29 2009 04:09 Aegraen wrote:
Can't watch it right now, but we are on the top of the food chain. Doesn't matter how the animals were killed ultimately the question is, is the food of better use eaten, or letting to decompose when the animal dies?


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Aegraen
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1225 Posts
May 28 2009 19:31 GMT
#14
On May 29 2009 04:25 baal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2009 04:09 Aegraen wrote:
Can't watch it right now, but we are on the top of the food chain. Doesn't matter how the animals were killed ultimately the question is, is the food of better use eaten, or letting to decompose when the animal dies?

Obviously you can't wait 10+ years for animals to die to run a business.

To Phan, I think too many people get caught up in the fallacy that 'natural' = good. Many 'natural' things are horrible for your health, in fact, most things that are natural are. If most things natural were so good, then our early ancestors would have been much better off, sadly they weren't.


i want to throw up every time you type a post, your stupidity is so overwhelming im sure a great part of it its just for trolling purposes.

Nobody is discussing the top of the foodchain, the fact we eat meat doesnt mean we have to make the annimal suffer for it entire life only to cut expenses, animals MUST be treated with dignity and minimizing pain.


Do you realize the whole point of the animals existence is to die and for us to eat them? This is called nature.

Food is, yes a business. Do I want to spend 1.50$ for that LB. of meat, or do I want to spend 1.35$ for that LB. of meat. Is it feasible for small businesses (farmers), to increase costs?

Pets and wild animals that aren't being hunted should be treated fairly and justly. Animals bred to be food, or those that are hunted, are fair game for the rules of conducting business.
"It is easy to be conspicuously 'compassionate' if others are being forced to pay the cost." -- Murray N. Rothbard -- Rand Paul 2010 -- Ron Paul 2012
Probe.
Profile Joined May 2009
United States877 Posts
May 28 2009 19:34 GMT
#15
Personally i think we should be focused more on the lives of humans that have just as shitty lives as some of these animals. There are a lot more problems in the world that i feel should have priority before we start figuring out how to lessen animal cruelty.
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Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
May 28 2009 19:35 GMT
#16
On May 29 2009 04:31 Aegraen wrote:
Do you realize the whole point of the animals existence is to die and for us to eat them? This is called nature.


This is a priceless demonstration of sheer stupidity. Congratulations.
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iSTime
Profile Joined November 2006
1579 Posts
May 28 2009 19:37 GMT
#17
I don't eat a lot of meat, but this video also doesn't bother me at all. As long as these conditions aren't going to cause the meat to make me sick I don't really care.
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King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
May 28 2009 19:39 GMT
#18
On May 29 2009 04:31 Aegraen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2009 04:25 baal wrote:
On May 29 2009 04:09 Aegraen wrote:
Can't watch it right now, but we are on the top of the food chain. Doesn't matter how the animals were killed ultimately the question is, is the food of better use eaten, or letting to decompose when the animal dies?

Obviously you can't wait 10+ years for animals to die to run a business.

To Phan, I think too many people get caught up in the fallacy that 'natural' = good. Many 'natural' things are horrible for your health, in fact, most things that are natural are. If most things natural were so good, then our early ancestors would have been much better off, sadly they weren't.


i want to throw up every time you type a post, your stupidity is so overwhelming im sure a great part of it its just for trolling purposes.

Nobody is discussing the top of the foodchain, the fact we eat meat doesnt mean we have to make the annimal suffer for it entire life only to cut expenses, animals MUST be treated with dignity and minimizing pain.


Do you realize the whole point of the animals existence is to die and for us to eat them? This is called nature.

Food is, yes a business. Do I want to spend 1.50$ for that LB. of meat, or do I want to spend 1.35$ for that LB. of meat. Is it feasible for small businesses (farmers), to increase costs?

Pets and wild animals that aren't being hunted should be treated fairly and justly. Animals bred to be food, or those that are hunted, are fair game for the rules of conducting business.
QFT

Especially the money part. Meat is expensive enough already.
Aegraen
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1225 Posts
May 28 2009 19:42 GMT
#19
On May 29 2009 04:35 Cloud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2009 04:31 Aegraen wrote:
Do you realize the whole point of the animals existence is to die and for us to eat them? This is called nature.


This is a priceless demonstration of sheer stupidity. Congratulations.


ok, think about it this way. The increase of business is going to increase the cost to the consumer. Less fortunate people, and charitable entities costs will be increased. They will not be able to purchase as much food as they once could have. In effect, you put the lives of animals who are bred to be killed for food, above human consumption, hunger, and availability of food supply.

Even if its 1/2 lb less food a week, its still less food that they could purchase.

In the end its called nature. It all depends what you cherish more, animals or humanity.
"It is easy to be conspicuously 'compassionate' if others are being forced to pay the cost." -- Murray N. Rothbard -- Rand Paul 2010 -- Ron Paul 2012
Wotans_Fire
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United Kingdom294 Posts
May 28 2009 19:42 GMT
#20
In that case you should buy organic? I've seen research that links vegetarianism with b12 deficiency. Humans have forever been omnivores it is only today that people have the luxury to be vegetarians and I don't believe its the healthier solution.
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