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On May 17 2009 09:46 Mynock wrote: Are you seriously suggesting an "every Townie for himself" deal here? Great for you that you're such a brilliant mastermind, but I have a feeling that vast majority of Town isn't limping around popping Vicodin all day. rofl | ||
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On May 18 2009 11:25 Mynock wrote: Oh, forgot, why lynch nemY? I have said this a thousand times and will say it once more: confusion is BAD for the Town. nemY provided PLENTY of it. Look at the process of the elections. It was turned upside down with his help, and that's not a good thing. Also, he was lying. He might have innocent motives behind it, but he's just not helping his own cause nor Town. Even IF he is who he claims he is, he made some bad moves, and as a distraction, is best removed. If he turns out blue, that's too bad, but it's still better than lynch anybody on a hunch or random chances. why not protect him with medics, get him to do a role check and post it and then kill him after? That way if hes blue at least you get something out of it, and if hes mafia, he'll still be killed. It doesnt make a lot of sense to make him your first day lynch. If you lynch him first day and he turns out blue, I will be HIGHLY suspicious of you. | ||
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On May 18 2009 11:40 Tricode wrote: I don't really think he should have protection. He fucked up bad. We shouldn't be wasting our resources on him imo. What if he turns to be the traitor? The whole point is, Nemy fucked up bad and there is a price to pay for that. Is his role that so important that we should give him a medic instead of someone else that could be more valuable? We only get 2 you know. In either case, Nemy looks like he will either get lynched or killed off by mafia. if he doesn't w/e he could still be traitor or we can use his R/Cs and C/Cs as fast as we can. (if he is DT, this is not a guarantee) If he is DT, then mafia basically have to waste all their killing power to kill him....we dont neccessarily have to protect him I guess, but what about this? -medics do whatever the fuck they want to. They might protect nemy, they might protect someone else whatever. -we leave nemy alive. At least this way mafia is forced to kill him and use up a hit if hes innocent. If we were to lynch him first night and hes innocent, we basically just gave mafia extra KP since now they dont have to kill nemy. -if he somehow stays alive, we get him to do a roleclaim on someone and give us the results. -we kill him some point after that. | ||
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Why did people trust them in the first place? Why dont they trust them now? | ||
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On May 20 2009 11:29 Showtime! wrote: I just want to know when voting ends. I have to be up at 4AM EST tomorrow. I won't be back until 5PM EST. :/ Landscaping pff. At least you have a job. I would kill just for a landscaping job | ||
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Case 1: Ace is innocent, Ver is mafia -Ace suspects ver naturally and is right Case 2: Ace is innocent, Ver is innocent -Ace suspects ver naturally and is wrong Case 3: Ace is mafia, Ver is mafia -Mafia ploy. Ver is lynched, town automatically assumes Ace is innocent, mafia can now abuse that trust. Case 4: Ace is mafia, Ver is innocent -Ace says he was convinced. You have no way to tell this isn't case 2 until Ace is lynched. 2 days wasted, loss of all elected officials results. Ace is a very good player, particularily at occlumency (for someone who never read the books, I really enjoyed the movies). He's not going to be easy to read whether mafia or town, and hes not going to allow himself to be backed into a corner where his play is predicitve (when he is mafia for obvious reasons, when he is innocent for the sake of future games) -Ace suspects ver naturally and is wrong | ||
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On May 20 2009 22:18 Mynock wrote: L, you ignore behaviour almost completely. No, mechanical doesn't work. It's stupid and convoluted. We're not here to lynch half the Town. It's Mafia's job to kill innocents, we must concentrate on killing Mafia. At the same time, we have to minimize collateral damage. There are prime suspects right now, above Ace, and I'd rather not lose Ace just yet. The solution is so fucking simple: Lynch Ver. If he's innocent, we can Vigi Ace easily (and you don't even have to endure another Pardoner nightmare again, hey!). If he's Mafia, we go after other prime Mafia suspects (like Plexa and co.) Simple stuff, but requires a bit of logical thinking before. As opposed to convoluted paranoid stuff with no thinking behind it (or rather overthinking certain stuff, completely ignoring other). woah woah woah ver being innocent or mafia tells you absolutely nothing about the alliance of Ace. If ver flips red, in no way should you suddenly start trusting Ace more than you did before. | ||
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On May 21 2009 11:28 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: And then he has only 1 night life left, our vig hit is gone, and it's easier for the mafia to kill him. And it means the medic pretty much has to protect Ver, no? in addition, we have to communicate with the vigi in some way that guarantees the vigi is legit as well | ||
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On May 22 2009 02:46 Caller wrote: The reason I've been posting with a lot of Lol's is quite simple. Ver asked me to being trolling hardcore in order to try and oust some sort of reaction from any mafia-hence I pretty much just "lold" at every single post I thought might have been suspect to get an excited reaction. It was said earlier that Ace and I are among some of the best instigators whom are most able to get under peoples' skin and get them to make a stupid mistake (i.e. capek). Hence, I tried to perform in that capacity. I was working with Ver from essentially the very beginning of the game, because I thought he was playing green that round, and I knew that he would rarely if ever run for mayor as mafia because he doesn't like being mafia. When he mentioned that he had a lot of PMs, those PMs were mostly from me. Do you have any posts by ver confirming/hinting at this from before he died? Otherwise you can just say whatever you want, and ver can't correct any misstatements. | ||
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I have a monopoly on those | ||
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