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Railxp
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Hong Kong1313 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-27 03:18:31
April 27 2009 03:16 GMT
#1
Stumbled upon a rather intriguing article regarding media representation of the Iraq war and maybe why so many people supported it in the beginning. Although it doesn't really come across as a surprise that this happened (just look at fox news), it does make quite a statement about the idea of "Free and Independent journalism" and how that is now in shambles. For a wonderful country founded on the philosophy of egalitarianism, democracy, and freedom, I can't help but feel a odd sense of loss for the world when it so directly compromises one of its core pillars. Undeniably, China is filled with propaganda, but at the very least it doesn't try very hard to hide it, and more importantly, it doesn't claim to be the Land of the Free.



The Pulitzer-Winning Investigation That Dare Not Be Uttered on TV
by Glenn Greenwald
I've copied the article below, but the hyperlinks in the article don't copy themselves, so its much better to click the link =p
Link: http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/04/21-6
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The New York Times' David Barstow won a richly deserved Pulitzer Prize yesterday for two articles that, despite being featured as major news stories on the front page of The Paper of Record, were completely suppressed by virtually every network and cable news show, which to this day have never informed their viewers about what Bartow uncovered. Here is how the Pulitzer Committee described Barstow's exposés:

Awarded to David Barstow of The New York Times for his tenacious reporting that revealed how some retired generals, working as radio and television analysts, had been co-opted by the Pentagon to make its case for the war in Iraq, and how many of them also had undisclosed ties to companies that benefited from policies they defended.

By whom were these "ties to companies" undisclosed and for whom did these deeply conflicted retired generals pose as "analysts"? ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN and Fox -- the very companies that have simply suppressed the story from their viewers. They kept completely silent about Barstow's story even though it sparked Congressional inquiries, vehement objections from the then-leading Democratic presidential candidates, and allegations that the Pentagon program violated legal prohibitions on domestic propaganda programs. The Pentagon's secret collaboration with these "independent analysts" shaped multiple news stories from each of these outlets on a variety of critical topics. Most amazingly, many of them continue to employ as so-called "independent analysts" the very retired generals at the heart of Barstow's story, yet still refuse to inform their viewers about any part of this story.

And even now that Barstow yesterday won the Pulitzer Prize for investigative reporting -- one of the most prestigious awards any news story can win -- these revelations still may not be uttered on television, tragically dashing the hope expressed yesterday (rhetorically, I presume) by Media Matters' Jamison Foser that "maybe now that the story has won a Pulitzer for Barstow, they'll pay attention." Instead, it was Atrios' prediction that was decisively confirmed: "I don't think a Pulitzer will be enough to give the military analyst story more attention." Here is what Brian Williams said last night on his NBC News broadcast in reporting on the prestigious awards:

The Pulitzer Prizes for journalism and the arts were awarded today. The New York Times led the way with five, including awards for breaking news and international reporting. Las Vegas Sun won for the public service category for its reporting on construction worker deaths in that city. Best commentary went to Eugene Robinson of The Washington Post, who of course was an on-air commentator for us on MSNBC all through the election season and continues to be. And the award for best biography went to John Meacham, the editor of Newsweek magazine, for his book "American Lion: Andrew Jackson in the White House."

No mention that among the five NYT prizes was one for investigative reporting. Williams did manage to promote the fact that one of the award winners was an MSNBC contributor, but sadly did not find the time to inform his viewers that NBC News' war reporting and one of Williams' still-featured premiere "independent analysts," Gen. Barry McCaffrey, was and continues to be at the heart of the scandal for which Barstow won the Pulitzer. Williams' refusal to inform his readers about this now-Pulitzer-winning story is particularly notable given his direct personal involvement in the secret, joint attempts by NBC and McCaffrey to contain P.R. damage to NBC from Barstow's story, compounded by the fact that NBC was on notice of these multiple conflicts as early as April, 2003, when The Nation first reported on them.

Identically, CNN ran an 898-word story on the various Pulitzer winners -- describing virtually every winner -- but was simply unable to find any space even to mention David Barstow's name, let alone inform their readers that he won the Prize for uncovering core corruption at the heart of CNN's coverage of the Iraq War and other military-related matters. No other television news outlet implicated by Barstow's story mentioned his award, at least as far as I can tell.

The outright refusal of any of these "news organizations" even to mention what Barstow uncovered about the Pentagon's propaganda program and the way it infected their coverage is one of the most illuminating events revealing how they operate. So transparently corrupt and journalistically disgraceful is their blackout of this story that even Howard Kurtz and Politico -- that's Howard Kurtz and Politico -- lambasted them for this concealment. Meaningful criticisms of media stars from media critic (and CNN star) Howie Kurtz is about as rare as prosecutions for politically powerful lawbreakers in America, yet this is what he said about the television media's suppression of Barstow's story: "their coverage of this important issue has been pathetic."

Has there ever been another Pulitzer-Prize-winning story for investigative reporting never to be mentioned on major television -- let alone one that was twice featured as the lead story on the front page of The New York Times? To pose the question is to answer it.



UPDATE: Media Matters has more on the glaring omissions in Brian Williams' "reporting" and on the pervasive impact of the Pentagon's program on television news coverage. Williams' behavior has long been disgraceful on this issue, almost certainly due to the fact that some of the "analysts" most directly implicated by Barstow's story are Williams' favored sources and friends.

On a different note, CQ's Jeff Stein responds today to some of the objections to his Jane-Harman/AIPAC/Alberto-Gonazles blockbuster story -- quite convincingly, in my view -- and, as Christy Hardin Smith notes, the New York Times has now independently confirmed much of what Stein reported.

UPDATE II: For some added irony: on his NBS News broadcast last night suppressing any mention of David Barstow's Pulitzer Prize, Brian Williams' lead story concerned Obama's trip to the CIA yesterday. Featured in that story was commentary from Col. Jack Jacobs, identified on-screen this way: "Retired, NBC News Military Analyst." Jacobs was one of the retired officers who was an active member of the Pentagon's "military analyst" program, and indeed, he actively helped plan the Pentagon's media strategy at the very same time he was posing as an "independent analyst" on NBC (h/t reader gc; via NEXIS). So not only did Williams last night conceal from his viewers any mention of the Pentagon program, he featured -- on the very same broadcast -- "independent" commentary from one of the central figures involved in that propaganda program.

On a related note, Howard Kurtz was asked in his Washington Post chat yesterday about Mike Allen's grant of anonymity to a "top Bush official" that I highlighted on Saturday, and Kurtz -- while defending much of Allen's behavior -- said: "I don't believe an ex-official should have been granted anonymity for that kind of harsh attack."
© 2009 Salon.com

Glenn Greenwald was previously a constitutional law and civil rights litigator in New York. He is the author of the New York Times Bestselling book "How Would a Patriot Act?," a critique of the Bush administration's use of executive power, released in May 2006. His second book, "A Tragic Legacy", examines the Bush legacy.


Since the article and the other ones it links to are kinda long:
TL;DR
US Gov. has been controlling and feeding info to "military analysts" so that they can report the nice side of the war but at the same time remain an "independent" source. Many of these people have vested interests in the war/military business. They show up on all the big news networks (ABC/CBS/NBC/MSNBC/CNN/Fox), and, more importantly, these very same networks are not reporting this story. So there are some serious self censorship ontop of the government propaganda.
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Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
April 27 2009 03:21 GMT
#2
I don't know about other Americans but I've known this for years ... by watching a show that's not a reputable news show. The Daily Show always mocks news networks when they all spew out the spoon fed bullshit news handed to them. The problem isn't really the news networks though, they just can't get any other information because its locked up in tight lips. But its not like they're doing anything about it either, they just go along with it.
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nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
April 27 2009 03:21 GMT
#3
yes! now let's talk about something everyone don't already know!
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 27 2009 03:29 GMT
#4
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
April 27 2009 03:34 GMT
#5
Your post makes no sense. You complain about journalism being unfree, and then post about Barstow's NYT article (hint: NYT is the largest circulating newspaper in the country) being ignored by privately owned news networks, who are free to cover whatever they want to cover. GE owns NBC, Disney owns ABC, News Corp owns Fox. Stop bitching about cable news and read a goddamn newspaper.
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IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-27 03:52:25
April 27 2009 03:37 GMT
#6
That's why you don't watch fox news unless you want to fear everything. Anyways in every nation even in the US there are some lines that people wont cross public broadcast is censored for some things but you can write articles and books about events. Such as the more or less failure of the food ad dropping we did in the beginning of the war which because they where sealed food spoiled and rapidly grew mold during the 10k foot drop out of a cargo plane giving people who ate most of the food, food poisoning.
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Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
April 27 2009 03:49 GMT
#7
On April 27 2009 12:34 Jibba wrote:
Your post makes no sense. You complain about journalism being unfree, and then post about Barstow's NYT article (hint: NYT is the largest circulating newspaper in the country) being ignored by privately owned news networks, who are free to cover whatever they want to cover. GE owns NBC, Disney owns ABC, News Corp owns Fox. Stop bitching about cable news and read a goddamn newspaper.


/agree with all this

(except I don't think NYT is the biggest...but it is certainly the most influential. I think Wall Street Journal has been bigger for a while and maybe even USA Today. But I didn't google it so I could be wrong)


But when all is said and done...don't watch cable news! By its nature it is simply entertainment to appeal to an audience used to watching daytime television and reality TV.
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
April 27 2009 03:53 GMT
#8
You're right. USA Today is tops in circulation, but they don't really do any reporting anyways. I'll just cheat to make myself right and say New York Times Company is #1.
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only_human89
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States212 Posts
April 27 2009 04:37 GMT
#9
rofl nothing new here. Ron Paul 2012, the only true conservative left that has a senate seat. sick of this socialist bull. And the U.S. federal gov. are a bunch of communist's. Limited gov ftw y0.
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Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
April 27 2009 05:34 GMT
#10
On April 27 2009 13:37 only_human89 wrote:
rofl nothing new here. Ron Paul 2012, the only true conservative left that has a senate seat. sick of this socialist bull. And the U.S. federal gov. are a bunch of communist's. Limited gov ftw y0.


For one, Ron Paul is a Rep, which alone means he has far less power as an individual congressmen then a Senator. Secondly, socialism and communism are not the same theory, not by a long shot, so this tells me you're either an idiot who believes, verbatim what any of the talking heads on Fox says, or second, have no real idea with socialism or communism is.

Socialism is emphasis on people, communism is emphasis on the state - when practiced communism results in a highly organized government with no checks and balances on who makes the laws. Socialism is a regard on how the welfare of a nations people is created, but does not result in a specialized form of government; Socialism favors a democratic government, whereas communism favors the complete opposite.
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Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-27 14:20:26
April 27 2009 05:39 GMT
#11
On April 27 2009 12:34 Jibba wrote: GE owns NBC, Disney owns ABC, News Corp owns Fox.
...and Saudi prince Al-Waleed bin Talal owns 6-7% stake in News Corp, 17.3 percent of Disneyland Paris, and significant shares in Time Warner and Walt Disney Company: GE Plastics is Saudi owned too.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
April 27 2009 05:51 GMT
#12
On April 27 2009 14:34 Railz wrote:
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On April 27 2009 13:37 only_human89 wrote:
rofl nothing new here. Ron Paul 2012, the only true conservative left that has a senate seat. sick of this socialist bull. And the U.S. federal gov. are a bunch of communist's. Limited gov ftw y0.


For one, Ron Paul is a Rep, which alone means he has far less power as an individual congressmen then a Senator. Secondly, socialism and communism are not the same theory, not by a long shot, so this tells me you're either an idiot who believes, verbatim what any of the talking heads on Fox says, or second, have no real idea with socialism or communism is.

Socialism is emphasis on people, communism is emphasis on the state - when practiced communism results in a highly organized government with no checks and balances on who makes the laws. Socialism is a regard on how the welfare of a nations people is created, but does not result in a specialized form of government; Socialism favors a democratic government, whereas communism favors the complete opposite.
Technically, communism eventually favors very little government, except you need authoritarianism to get there.
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The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-27 05:52:22
April 27 2009 05:51 GMT
#13
On April 27 2009 12:16 Railxp wrote:
US Gov. has been controlling and feeding info to "military analysts" so that they can report the nice side of the war but at the same time remain an "independent" source.


This is common all over the world and an acceptable way for not only journalists to get information but also PR people to get their message across. Lots of private companies do that. Restaurants, for instance, regularly invite top critics over and give them free meals.
Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
April 27 2009 06:03 GMT
#14
On April 27 2009 14:51 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2009 14:34 Railz wrote:
On April 27 2009 13:37 only_human89 wrote:
rofl nothing new here. Ron Paul 2012, the only true conservative left that has a senate seat. sick of this socialist bull. And the U.S. federal gov. are a bunch of communist's. Limited gov ftw y0.


For one, Ron Paul is a Rep, which alone means he has far less power as an individual congressmen then a Senator. Secondly, socialism and communism are not the same theory, not by a long shot, so this tells me you're either an idiot who believes, verbatim what any of the talking heads on Fox says, or second, have no real idea with socialism or communism is.

Socialism is emphasis on people, communism is emphasis on the state - when practiced communism results in a highly organized government with no checks and balances on who makes the laws. Socialism is a regard on how the welfare of a nations people is created, but does not result in a specialized form of government; Socialism favors a democratic government, whereas communism favors the complete opposite.
Technically, communism eventually favors very little government, except you need authoritarianism to get there.


Communism, as written, would actually favor more community based government over any national one. As is, China is not a communist state at all, but a Capitalistic state with an oligarchy based government. The label they used as communism is almost as silly as saying the United States is a Democracy when it is a Democratic Republic; meaning the individual means a lot in their own state, but means very little to the Federal Government - The state acts as the voter there.
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Railxp
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Hong Kong1313 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-27 09:31:45
April 27 2009 09:28 GMT
#15
On April 27 2009 12:34 Jibba wrote:
Your post makes no sense. You complain about journalism being unfree, and then post about Barstow's NYT article (hint: NYT is the largest circulating newspaper in the country) being ignored by privately owned news networks, who are free to cover whatever they want to cover. GE owns NBC, Disney owns ABC, News Corp owns Fox. Stop bitching about cable news and read a goddamn newspaper.


If you've read through the articles, i think it becomes painfully obvious that cable news are precisely NOT free to report anything other than what the pentagon wanted them to. To do otherwise would essentially be corporate suicide. In the article, even among the "military analysts" there were those who wanted to report the other side, but were systematically shut down and blacked out when they tried to do so. They are like starving prisoners who are only fed when they obey. Being forced to choose between starving and suicide isn't really freedom.

The injustice, imHUMBLEo is painfully obvious here. Just ignoring cable and reading the newspaper is not the solution. TV News has far more power than newspapers to sway popular opinion. It is precisely the "stop bitching you cant do anything abt it anyways" attitude that lets the gov+newsnetworks get away with this. I dont mean for this to come off as a personal attack, i know plenty of people who share that notion and I'll be the first to admit that I dont know what to do about it either, but it is precisely that attitude that landed USA in the war in the first place. Which is why i think it is problematic and dangerous to just ignore/overlook the bad.
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Pika Chu
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Romania2510 Posts
April 27 2009 10:12 GMT
#16
That happens everywhere in the world, not just USA.
They first ignore you. After they laugh at you. Next they will fight you. In the end you will win.
FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
April 27 2009 11:04 GMT
#17
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-27 11:31:05
April 27 2009 11:25 GMT
#18
This has been blatantly obvious since ever and many of us have been talking about it here in the last few years. But 90% of the randoms in this forum always loled at it saying it was a conspiracy theory.

People are so afraid to admit they're just another brainwashed tool being fooled by the media that they will fight for their lives to prove it to themselves that it's not truth. The mainstream American media position on the war on Iraq and Afghanistan has been specially ridiculous since 9/11, it was jaw dropping to realize how many people couldn't see this.
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pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5094 Posts
April 27 2009 11:31 GMT
#19
government influencing media happens -everywhere-

i just find it funny when people scream in my face that china controls the media and then think that the news they get is 100% unbiased information.

get real son. spies are everywhere, everyone wants oil and no one wants to shell out money for renewable energy sources. it's that simple.
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-27 11:35:50
April 27 2009 11:32 GMT
#20
WMD !

@ Pyro: the main difference is that you can find legally better sources of information here.
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