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On April 28 2009 01:51 Luhh wrote:What do you call a US "democrat" in "insert random european country"? + Show Spoiler +- A rightwing extremist.[
yeah but a true conservative would have non-interventionist policies when it comes to foreign affairs. both obama and McCain were for sending more troops to the middle east in afghanistan and pakistan. i dont know why people would vote for that. wasting more tax money and lives on a pointless war.
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Derail on page two? damn.
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Railz - coin has two sides. Besides China's concerns about dollar there are also intrest of some oil and natural gas rich countries who want to drop dollar in favor of euro. This is way more complicated than just China wanting more secure currency.
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On April 28 2009 01:46 MuR)Ernu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2009 01:19 only_human89 wrote:
socialism sucks it promotes laziness and gives free handouts fuck that
ahahahahahahh What if you suddenly lost your job and home and shit? Would you just go live in the street if you wouldn't get another job? Socialism is fair. Without any socialism, it would be shit <_> Have fun if you get sick in your country. go and pay your ass off. meanwhile i enjoy my free healthcare
Why should I have to pay for someone's welfare because they lost they're job and home? I know it helps people less fortunate but there isn't an unlimited supply of money in the world. People should be able to keep what they earn and i always give back. And there certainly isn't a surplus of jobs right now. The Federal government is printing money out of thin air, it is basically counterfeit. The dollar is going to crash if this keeps up, or its going to screw over countries like China who are heavily in ivested in the U.S. dollar.
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On April 28 2009 02:30 eStoniaNBoY wrote:
Railz - coin has two sides. Besides China's concerns about dollar there are also intrest of some oil and natural gas rich countries who want to drop dollar in favor of euro. This is way more complicated than just China wanting more secure currency.
Ya, I know China isn't exactly innocent in all this because of the pegged yen, but the economy of the US won't disappear if they drop the petrodollar but hopefully by that point we're not the main buyer of Oil at that point.
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On April 28 2009 02:17 only_human89 wrote:
US isn't capitalist man we have a mixed economy. we just happen to be less socialist than most other countries. The government is what goes and screws everything up for everyone. I am not an anarchist, but it shouldn't shouldnt be too much too ask for proper representation of the people. The federal Government does'nt even have to tell us what they spend our tax money on.
Also, http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs16/f/2007/124/3/4/Death_and_Taxes__2008_by_mibi.jpg
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On April 28 2009 02:34 only_human89 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2009 01:46 MuR)Ernu wrote:On April 28 2009 01:19 only_human89 wrote:
socialism sucks it promotes laziness and gives free handouts fuck that
ahahahahahahh What if you suddenly lost your job and home and shit? Would you just go live in the street if you wouldn't get another job? Socialism is fair. Without any socialism, it would be shit <_> Have fun if you get sick in your country. go and pay your ass off. meanwhile i enjoy my free healthcare Why should I have to pay for someone's welfare because they lost they're job and home? I know it helps people less fortunate but there isn't an unlimited supply of money in the world. People should be able to keep what they earn and i always give back. And there certainly isn't a surplus of jobs right now. The Federal government is printing money out of thin air, it is basically counterfeit. The dollar is going to crash if this keeps up, or its going to screw over countries like China who are heavily in ivested in the U.S. dollar.
There isn't an unlimited supply of money in the world, but there is plenty to go around. Look at my first post in this thread too.
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I don't think people know a fiat currency system work on its basic level, and I'm not even talking about the state of the USD.
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On April 28 2009 02:21 Railz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2009 02:17 only_human89 wrote:
US isn't capitalist man we have a mixed economy. we just happen to be less socialist than most other countries. The government is what goes and screws everything up for everyone. I am not an anarchist, but it shouldn't shouldnt be too much too ask for proper representation of the people. The federal Government does'nt even have to tell us what they spend our tax money on. But they do tell us http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/There is proper representation of the people - problem for you is, the the majority doesn't represent what you like. That is the err of democracy I suppose.
yeah but i would rather be free and live with the consequences than as a slave to society and world opinion. Also Congress wrote Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson a blank check for $700 billion, which amounts to a quarter of the entire federal budget last year. It is unconstitutional for Congress to delegte its power to the excutive branch. The guy has the power to directly intervene in our nation's economy.
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Large news corporations are too entangled in business and politics at an operational level to be able to report what needs to be reported, accurately. It's a shame.
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On April 28 2009 02:45 only_human89 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2009 02:21 Railz wrote:On April 28 2009 02:17 only_human89 wrote:
US isn't capitalist man we have a mixed economy. we just happen to be less socialist than most other countries. The government is what goes and screws everything up for everyone. I am not an anarchist, but it shouldn't shouldnt be too much too ask for proper representation of the people. The federal Government does'nt even have to tell us what they spend our tax money on. But they do tell us http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/There is proper representation of the people - problem for you is, the the majority doesn't represent what you like. That is the err of democracy I suppose. yeah but i would rather be free and live with the consequences than as a slave to society and world opinion. Also Congress wrote Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson a blank check for $700 billion, which amounts to a quarter of the entire federal budget last year. It is unconstitutional for Congress to delegte its power to the excutive branch. The guy has the power to directly intervene in our nation's economy.
I'm not sure how you can write a blank check for 700 billion.
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On April 28 2009 02:59 randomKo_Orean wrote:Do you even know what democracy is? I think you are leaning more toward anarchy Show nested quote +On April 28 2009 02:45 only_human89 wrote:On April 28 2009 02:21 Railz wrote:On April 28 2009 02:17 only_human89 wrote:
US isn't capitalist man we have a mixed economy. we just happen to be less socialist than most other countries. The government is what goes and screws everything up for everyone. I am not an anarchist, but it shouldn't shouldnt be too much too ask for proper representation of the people. The federal Government does'nt even have to tell us what they spend our tax money on. But they do tell us http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/There is proper representation of the people - problem for you is, the the majority doesn't represent what you like. That is the err of democracy I suppose. yeah but i would rather be free and live with the consequences than as a slave to society and world opinion.
no i am for limited government and for the states to have more freedom to decide what's best for them. and when i say this im talking about domestic issues only. when it comes to foreign policy i think the u.s. should stay non-interventionist like post world war I times. 9/11 could have and should have been prevented. but as it is the federal government doesn't even care about protecting our own borders from letting illegals cross.
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On April 28 2009 02:34 only_human89 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2009 01:46 MuR)Ernu wrote:On April 28 2009 01:19 only_human89 wrote:
socialism sucks it promotes laziness and gives free handouts fuck that
ahahahahahahh What if you suddenly lost your job and home and shit? Would you just go live in the street if you wouldn't get another job? Socialism is fair. Without any socialism, it would be shit <_> Have fun if you get sick in your country. go and pay your ass off. meanwhile i enjoy my free healthcare Why should I have to pay for someone's welfare because they lost they're job and home? I know it helps people less fortunate but there isn't an unlimited supply of money in the world. People should be able to keep what they earn and i always give back. And there certainly isn't a surplus of jobs right now. The Federal government is printing money out of thin air, it is basically counterfeit. The dollar is going to crash if this keeps up, or its going to screw over countries like China who are heavily in ivested in the U.S. dollar.
Why should you not?
Are you that selfish?
Don't you care of people, only yourself and maybe your family and friends?
Have you ever done any charity or even thought about it?
Do you think its they are poor? And how did you expect them to get away from being poor if they aren't given money?
And hwere else could government get the money if not from taxes?
Also you would be paying your own healthcare, schools, school food(thats also free here :>)
And everyone else would too.
i mean, one for all, all for one. Except the poor-asses can't really pay much taxes because tehy are fucking poor.
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On April 28 2009 03:07 b3h47pte wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2009 02:45 only_human89 wrote:On April 28 2009 02:21 Railz wrote:On April 28 2009 02:17 only_human89 wrote:
US isn't capitalist man we have a mixed economy. we just happen to be less socialist than most other countries. The government is what goes and screws everything up for everyone. I am not an anarchist, but it shouldn't shouldnt be too much too ask for proper representation of the people. The federal Government does'nt even have to tell us what they spend our tax money on. But they do tell us http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/There is proper representation of the people - problem for you is, the the majority doesn't represent what you like. That is the err of democracy I suppose. yeah but i would rather be free and live with the consequences than as a slave to society and world opinion. Also Congress wrote Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson a blank check for $700 billion, which amounts to a quarter of the entire federal budget last year. It is unconstitutional for Congress to delegte its power to the excutive branch. The guy has the power to directly intervene in our nation's economy. I'm not sure how you can write a blank check for 700 billion.
Congress enacted the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 becase they were afraid of an impending financial crisis. They are talking about the dollar crashing, which it hasn't yet but thats what they mean. The econmy has already been suffering for awhile now. But our government is based on the separation of powers. This means, as the Constitution states, that “All legislative Powers” are “vested in a Congress of the United States” and cannot be delegated to the executive branch. They gave that man unprecedented power to create the TARP program.
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On April 28 2009 03:18 only_human89 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2009 03:07 b3h47pte wrote:On April 28 2009 02:45 only_human89 wrote:On April 28 2009 02:21 Railz wrote:On April 28 2009 02:17 only_human89 wrote:
US isn't capitalist man we have a mixed economy. we just happen to be less socialist than most other countries. The government is what goes and screws everything up for everyone. I am not an anarchist, but it shouldn't shouldnt be too much too ask for proper representation of the people. The federal Government does'nt even have to tell us what they spend our tax money on. But they do tell us http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/There is proper representation of the people - problem for you is, the the majority doesn't represent what you like. That is the err of democracy I suppose. yeah but i would rather be free and live with the consequences than as a slave to society and world opinion. Also Congress wrote Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson a blank check for $700 billion, which amounts to a quarter of the entire federal budget last year. It is unconstitutional for Congress to delegte its power to the excutive branch. The guy has the power to directly intervene in our nation's economy. I'm not sure how you can write a blank check for 700 billion. Congress enacted the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 becase they were afraid of an impending financial crisis. They are talking about the dollar crashing, which it hasn't yet but thats what they mean. The econmy has already been suffering for awhile now. But our government is based on the separation of powers. This means, as the Constitution states, that “All legislative Powers” are “vested in a Congress of the United States” and cannot be delegated to the executive branch. They gave that man unprecedented power to create the TARP program. I think you missed his joke -_-
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On April 28 2009 03:16 MuR)Ernu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2009 02:34 only_human89 wrote:On April 28 2009 01:46 MuR)Ernu wrote:On April 28 2009 01:19 only_human89 wrote:
socialism sucks it promotes laziness and gives free handouts fuck that
ahahahahahahh What if you suddenly lost your job and home and shit? Would you just go live in the street if you wouldn't get another job? Socialism is fair. Without any socialism, it would be shit <_> Have fun if you get sick in your country. go and pay your ass off. meanwhile i enjoy my free healthcare Why should I have to pay for someone's welfare because they lost they're job and home? I know it helps people less fortunate but there isn't an unlimited supply of money in the world. People should be able to keep what they earn and i always give back. And there certainly isn't a surplus of jobs right now. The Federal government is printing money out of thin air, it is basically counterfeit. The dollar is going to crash if this keeps up, or its going to screw over countries like China who are heavily in ivested in the U.S. dollar. Why should you not? Are you that selfish? Don't you care of people, only yourself and maybe your family and friends? Have you ever done any charity or even thought about it? Do you think its they are poor? And how did you expect them to get away from being poor if they aren't given money? And hwere else could government get the money if not from taxes? Also you would be paying your own healthcare, schools, school food(thats also free here :>) And everyone else would too. i mean, one for all, all for one. Except the poor-asses can't really pay much taxes because tehy are fucking poor.
How am I being selfish if I earned what i make? And what says i can't give back to the community without the government telling me i have to? There are too many lazy uneducated people in America that expect a free hand out from the government just because they decided to drop out of high school and quit their job every month. And those handouts are not free they are paid by the people that actually work for a living and have their own family to support. If your so righteous the next time you think about buying that computer game you want so badly think again. Give that money away to someone who didnt earn it.
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On April 28 2009 03:25 sixghost wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2009 03:18 only_human89 wrote:On April 28 2009 03:07 b3h47pte wrote:On April 28 2009 02:45 only_human89 wrote:On April 28 2009 02:21 Railz wrote:On April 28 2009 02:17 only_human89 wrote:
US isn't capitalist man we have a mixed economy. we just happen to be less socialist than most other countries. The government is what goes and screws everything up for everyone. I am not an anarchist, but it shouldn't shouldnt be too much too ask for proper representation of the people. The federal Government does'nt even have to tell us what they spend our tax money on. But they do tell us http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/There is proper representation of the people - problem for you is, the the majority doesn't represent what you like. That is the err of democracy I suppose. yeah but i would rather be free and live with the consequences than as a slave to society and world opinion. Also Congress wrote Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson a blank check for $700 billion, which amounts to a quarter of the entire federal budget last year. It is unconstitutional for Congress to delegte its power to the excutive branch. The guy has the power to directly intervene in our nation's economy. I'm not sure how you can write a blank check for 700 billion. Congress enacted the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 becase they were afraid of an impending financial crisis. They are talking about the dollar crashing, which it hasn't yet but thats what they mean. The econmy has already been suffering for awhile now. But our government is based on the separation of powers. This means, as the Constitution states, that “All legislative Powers” are “vested in a Congress of the United States” and cannot be delegated to the executive branch. They gave that man unprecedented power to create the TARP program. I think you missed his joke -_-
lol no i realize he was being sarcastic. i am trying not to flame too much on this thread i have been posting a lot of responses.
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On April 28 2009 03:29 only_human89 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2009 03:16 MuR)Ernu wrote:On April 28 2009 02:34 only_human89 wrote:On April 28 2009 01:46 MuR)Ernu wrote:On April 28 2009 01:19 only_human89 wrote:
socialism sucks it promotes laziness and gives free handouts fuck that
ahahahahahahh What if you suddenly lost your job and home and shit? Would you just go live in the street if you wouldn't get another job? Socialism is fair. Without any socialism, it would be shit <_> Have fun if you get sick in your country. go and pay your ass off. meanwhile i enjoy my free healthcare Why should I have to pay for someone's welfare because they lost they're job and home? I know it helps people less fortunate but there isn't an unlimited supply of money in the world. People should be able to keep what they earn and i always give back. And there certainly isn't a surplus of jobs right now. The Federal government is printing money out of thin air, it is basically counterfeit. The dollar is going to crash if this keeps up, or its going to screw over countries like China who are heavily in ivested in the U.S. dollar. Why should you not? Are you that selfish? Don't you care of people, only yourself and maybe your family and friends? Have you ever done any charity or even thought about it? Do you think its they are poor? And how did you expect them to get away from being poor if they aren't given money? And hwere else could government get the money if not from taxes? Also you would be paying your own healthcare, schools, school food(thats also free here :>) And everyone else would too. i mean, one for all, all for one. Except the poor-asses can't really pay much taxes because tehy are fucking poor. How am I being selfish if I earned what i make? And what says i can't give back to the community without the government telling me i have to? There are too many lazy uneducated people in America that expect a free hand out from the government just because they decided to drop out of high school and quit their job every month. And those handouts are not free they are paid by the people that actually work for a living and have their own family to support. If your so righteous the next time you think about buying that computer game you want so badly think again. Give that money away to someone who didnt earn it.
Is money really that important to you?
Are they bad people if they aren't interested in getting rich or something?
Also don't you think they have problems? They might be lazy, but there is probably a reason for it, i mean, not too many WANT to be unemployed.
Also here in finland we have so that if you don't even try, your welfare gets reduced.
What if some relative of yours gets depressed or something and drops from school and stuff.
Should they not get payed and just die away or something?
we have responsibility over each others.
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Sanya12364 Posts
The Military-Industrial Complex is no new phenomenon. It's been around for 50 years now.
The fact that the MIC has voices in the media is just a sign of where the money and power is concentrated. It's not with the people.
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