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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
April 25 2009 01:46 GMT
#350
yo dawgs, jus so u no i naught inactive.

Ima read it tomorrow then post, i'm lazy right now.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
April 25 2009 20:57 GMT
#417
btw all, I am reading now :D I don't know what speed the games moving at but I am on page 8 I think. Should be caught up soon, sucks though. Its such a nice day out.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
April 25 2009 21:44 GMT
#419
wow shit, two mafia families. I skim read a lot of the thread, with the exception of the last two pages. So now we have two mafia families, nice BC :D pulled that over on us, and we are pretty sure we lost two DTs which kind of blows.

What we need to do now is ALL the people who were hit last night need to come forward DO NOT REVEAL IF YOU ARE A VET OR MEDIC PROTECTED

We need to figure out how many hits each mafia has so we can try to figure out what the kill formula is. I think 2 hits per mafia is way too weak. I also think 3 hits each mafia is weak, but just means that the mafia need to focus and make sure they kill the town and not each other. Which would make it hard. I can see 2 successful protects being possible, but 4 seems very unlikely.

Once we have that figured out, does anyone know who the two DTs were in contact with? The only way for no one to have any idea is if the two DTs role checked the godfather who claimed vet or something and just told him what they were figuring it was statistically in their favor for him to NOT be godfaher.

That seems very unlikely, unless hes a known power player from previous mafia games and has been active in the thread. Off the top of my head SoG and Caller come to mind from my post skimming, but those thoughts are just me thinking out loud and clearing some suggestions for what could cause the death of what seems like two DTs.

To summarize:
Before our lynch we need to figure out
1. Who got hit last night.
2. figure out max mafia kills/formula
3. Figure out who those DTs(?) blues were talking to.

If we can't figure out who they were talking to, we have to assume its a likely person to role check, and then be careful of any of the power players who have been active thus far.

Happy LucaS?
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
April 25 2009 23:50 GMT
#425
Wow, I am dumb. For some reason I thought BC decided to not role reveal to keep the mafia in the dark. Sorry >.< adapting to the rules. and yeah, I just noticed the logic flaw. I didn't notice that DTs couldn't role check before night 2 ;p

But yeah, for the mafia thing, I meant ballpark how many kills the mafia gets on average. and I think 8 kills would be imba if they were one family, however if you remember in Ace's Mafia World game, there was 20 mafia and each night mafia got 20 hits. it was ridiculous. But they kept killing each other lol, its not that imba because they can kill each other accidentally as well.

Also I am sure the mafia realized "Oh theres another family" when they reread the rules or were wondering why the hell their team was only comprised of 5-6 people. There is also a chance BC could of just told them that their was not just one mafia family. Now I am back to being curious to how the mafia killed two DTs and no one has anything to say about it. The only thing that makes some sense is maybe a skilled mafia convinced one of them if not both that he was innocent then killed them. The next possibility would be knowing one and luck hitting the other, barely anything is ever pure luck in this game.

ugg :/ this game is not going so well, I feel like pyrr might of been a mouth for someone who was a mafia trying to avoid publicity. He was talking a lot and saying a lot. To me his posting seemed to show like he was speaking with and on behalf of other people like an attempt to form a town circle. However they were mafia :/

ohdaspeculationzzzz
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
April 25 2009 23:51 GMT
#426
EBWOB: (or whatever SoG's acronym was) I am okay with voting for tricode if no one else shows up. But I say we wait a little to see if anyone can say that our DTs were talking to any potential mafioso
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
April 27 2009 14:15 GMT
#518
On April 27 2009 11:02 3clipse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2009 05:49 Monoxide wrote:
Carbon Monoxide is not really a slow death... its acutally quite fast. It is slow in comparison to a bullet, for example, but then so are many of the narcotics.

Looked it up and you're right. Usually kills in under 2 hours.

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On April 27 2009 05:49 Monoxide wrote:
Accidental death == CO poisoning?? now you're just making stuff up...

I still think this makes perfect sense. Could any other name be tied to accidental death? Maybe 3 lions, but that would be one hell of a stretch.

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On April 27 2009 05:49 Monoxide wrote:
Soo you're telling me, even though the clue doesn't fit, you're saying its a strong clue cause that's the best you got. Nice

My point was that if someone isn't familiar with the specifics of CO poisoning they might assume it's painful. It's just a general reference to gassing. But I suppose that would be selling BC short, he seems pretty bright. I agree with you here as well.

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On April 27 2009 07:05 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
I think the problem with this analysis is that these are all clues from different deaths and thus pointing to different mafiosos. Unless BC has drastically changed the format of clue writing, you cannot link all of these clues to just one person.

Oh, really? I wasn't familiar with BC's method. In that case, the evidence against him isn't so heavy. Sorry I was so zealous, Monoxide.

In light of this, I'll be changing my vote to Quickstriker.



Regarding your general accusations against monxide. Yes, it is true that not all the clues can link to him, generally 1 kill = 1 mafia. But when a few seem to link to him as opposed to one, doesn't that seem like its a better chance we hit a mafia if we think 3 clues point to him as opposed to one?

I still think QS is the best target, his posting is very mafiaish.

And @monoxide.

On April 27 2009 05:49 Monoxide wrote:
Accidental death == CO poisoning?? now you're just making stuff up...


Maybe I am reading out of context but, Carbon Monoxide poisoning is a common accidental death, one of my close friends actually died because of it last year. Apparently it has no scent, and if you leave a car on in a garage with a door closed, it will kill you even if you are in another room in your house. :O!!! So carbon monoxide poisoning happens pretty easily. Its why most houses have mononide detectors.

However your post might be out of context.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
April 27 2009 14:25 GMT
#520
the way QS posts is kind of annoying as well.
Im voting lynch just based off that.

.....you know and the other suspicious stuff!

Can anyone tell me if what 0cz3c said is worth reading? In the other mafia games he posted the most retarded shit and I don't feel like wasting 5-10 minutes reading his essay if its another one of those random "I am going to accuse the enire town of being mafia and I also happen to be EVERY SINGLE ROLE IN THE GAME" posts. (that were ridiculous and colored)

and just for the record, I don't consider the case of Monoxide to be weak at all, I think the accidental death clue links very well with him. However QS behavior and the clue links seem to be the best thing we have so far, so I will go with that. However I still think we need to consider Monoxide for possible next lynch candidate.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
April 28 2009 22:11 GMT
#605
On April 29 2009 06:49 Vivi57 wrote:
I vote to lynch BloodyC0bbler

reason: inactivity

lolol

I don't think that there is no info to work with, so anyone using that excuse that we need to move to the next day and get more clues is probably a mafia who just wants to get to their night killing cycle

There is still a lot of debate over who is best to lynch. Off the clues and from whats going on, I don't believe Versatile is mafioso, however lynching her does now give us the MOST information. While I do think quickstriker and Monoxide have the best clues matching up to them, more information comes out of Versatile's death.

So what would you guys prefer, more information or possible mafia kill?

The only reason I would double lynch tonight is to get both QS and Monoxide to save the trouble of thinking about them any further. Then we would be able to focus on Versatile.

and Ace, you know I can out debate you
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
April 28 2009 22:46 GMT
#607
Hmm, okay. thanks for clearing that one up amber. Versatile kind of blew any more infiltration value she had when she snapped a few pages ago, so I would like to ask her what else she has to say, then we can lynch her I suppose and hold off on the other two.

Does that sound good? Also can anyone supply clues linking to versatile? Either way her lynch would either remove some suspicion from Ace/qatol or make them look guilty. If she was a mafioso, I don't think she would of made a spectacle like she did. It was not a smart move. However she would be a good self sacrificing townie.

So Versatile, please post ANYTHING that could be useful later on if we choose to follow through with your lynch. I doubt your PMing with Ace will show much more anyway, and I am sure rest of the mafia now see you as being hot and would not want to associate themselves with you to stay away from accusations and suspicion.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
April 29 2009 02:12 GMT
#609
[image loading]

True story.

I meant regarding Ace and Qatol or conversations you had which would hopefully clarify your alliance and his.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
April 29 2009 13:02 GMT
#618
I am really tempted to change my vote, but I am also really lazy.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
April 29 2009 23:10 GMT
#633
At this point I almost don't even see the point in lynching Versatile :D She is so clearly innocent we already gained the information without needing to kill her. Any actual mafia 1. Wouldn't of acted the way she did AT ALL. and 2. Would be voraciously defending themselves right now trying to get QS or Monoxide lynched. Since there is more evidence against them.

I really have no suspicions of Versatile at this point. I am alright with lynching someone else and taking everything she says at face value. As for me, I am still voting for QS at the moment.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
April 30 2009 03:13 GMT
#646
L lol.... Is it really worth 2-3 mafia changing votes to save her if it would expose them all? Admittedly with what I said a page back, I would be looking a bit suspicious if that were to happen. However that entire family would most likely die in the next day cycle if they tried that. It is a retarded move. She knows that, and I haven't really seen any dumb card played :O but whatever.

On April 30 2009 09:29 Versatile wrote:
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On April 30 2009 09:16 Malongo wrote:
On April 30 2009 08:10 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
At this point I almost don't even see the point in lynching Versatile :D She is so clearly innocent we already gained the information without needing to kill her. Any actual mafia 1. Wouldn't of acted the way she did AT ALL. and 2. Would be voraciously defending themselves right now trying to get QS or Monoxide lynched. Since there is more evidence against them.

I really have no suspicions of Versatile at this point. I am alright with lynching someone else and taking everything she says at face value. As for me, I am still voting for QS at the moment.

If versatile flips mafia you are looking as a strong candidate sir. However im all in against tricode this round so you have wait. But more importantly: BC where are you, oh where are you.


Maybe he's hoping that when I do flip green/blue, he can say "AHA! I told you not to lynch her! trust me now!". Or maybe he's hoping to win brownie points with me. Yeah. I like that one better =D

haha oh man. Lets go with the latter!!

post game cyber?!?!?!
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
April 30 2009 03:26 GMT
#648
On April 30 2009 12:09 L wrote:
Its pretty simple. Until I noted that you were a better target than JeeJee, you weren't going to be lynched. Afterwards you were a grand total of ONE VOTE ahead of the other lynch target, and largely remain to be. If you had someone on your list switch to QS, everything i described would have happened. Now that doing so would reveal quite obviously that you're mafia and that your list-switcher are mafia, you won't do it to minimize the damage.

You don't expect to survive NOW because I've pinned you to the wall. At this point you're a butterfly in a pin box, and when night rolls around and your red bleeds out this won't matter. But prior to said pinning, you were obviously dancing around trying to tell the other bees where the honey was at.

I don't expect you to survive this lynch now either, and its pretty ridiculous that your longest and most content filled posts are only now that I've essentially assured that you die. Your prior defenses were obviously on the level of jokes which IS WHY NO ONE BOTHERED TEARING THEM DOWN. You knew this too. You admitted that you're a joke and just spamming around now, yet here you are replying seriously to me.

All I can say is that when you turn out to be red, I'm going to have myself a good strut for the day.

By morning we will know whether you are a retarded ass townie or a mafia who just really wants to die.

Or super undercover mafia genius.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
April 30 2009 03:32 GMT
#651
FUCKING UNDERCOVER GODFATHER SCUM ACE.

I SEE THROUGH YOUR LESS THAN CLEVER DISGUISE

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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
April 30 2009 04:06 GMT
#657
Lol I assure you I am not mafia. Although I am really surprised, I could of sworn I voted. Trust me, if I would never carelessly slip up and shout about voting if I didn't think I did it. I wonder where the fuck I posted that. I just voted for Versatile because at this point it doesn't even matter.

lol also that is a lot of evidence you just put against me, sorry its not really for anything! I am but an innocent townie! Add some clue linkage to your post and we can talk lynching :O!

But yeah, Lucas PM'd me and said I should be active and that I looked suspicious, I actually read his PM a little while before I was going to post anyway. As I said, I was busy at the time and was going to catch up to the thread on a certain day. Which I did do.

Also you misinterpreted a few things which just happen to be my brand of sarcasm, there is plenty of stuff listed for why to lynch monoxide or QS. I was joking when I said lynch because his posting annoys me, which is why I used an exclamation point.

But I will give you this, that is a nice post analysis and I can see how you would make all those interpretations. Just focus elsewhere, somewhere that you see clue evidence as well.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
April 30 2009 04:16 GMT
#658
L, like I said. Any attempt to shift the vote to NOT get her lynched would probably fail at this point. Her gap is too large (lol@sexualenuendo) in the voting. They would expose themselves pointlessly. and her NOT getting lynched now when most people want her too and then a bunch of last second vote swaps would look INCREDIBLY suspicious and EVEN IF she didn't die and the DTs checked her, they wouldn't trust her based off of your infiltration logic.

and no matter what she will die soon anyway, as it was said before, shes worth more to us dead than she is alive.

Plus keep this in mind, there are TWO mafia families. Each has about 4 members. I would say 4-6 each. They don't have a single mafia family with 10 people. They don't really have the man power to keep her alive, I think her vote lead is at 4 and she is most likely already voting against someone else.

To put it simply, the town would literally have to be strait out of The Ringer to blindly trust her after some suspicious shit like that, along with the god fathers ability to cloak.

Plus its godfather, not godmother. U gotz ta b a fewl naught 2 realize dat iz impossibal!!
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
April 30 2009 04:26 GMT
#659
err EBWOP: Tomorrow I won't be posting a lot if at all, or I must keep myself not too active. I have an 11 page paper due on Friday that I have barely started. I also have work form 6:30 to 9:30 shitty shift and pointless. So I will be on the computer but trying to limit myself from TL, but I will probably fail to do so anyway.
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USA5860 Posts
April 30 2009 14:30 GMT
#687
yawnn :D So who are primary targets now? QS, Monoxide, Qatol?
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
May 01 2009 03:03 GMT
#700
ACE POST FUCKING REASONING BESIDES BEHAVIOR and maybe Qatol is mafia, but that still doesn't mean you aren't.
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