[G] List of build times on fastest speed

village_idiot

2436 Posts

December 25 2008 16:48 GMT

I converted the build times of all build and research times into fastest seconds. This should prove useful when planning BOs, finding timing windows and for other stuff too.

I took the times from the campaign editor and divided them by 1,6. I do not know if 1,6 is the exact correct number, but it is very close to it at least. It isn't 1,5 and 1,7 is also way out.

Please correct me if you find anything wrong.

Edit: ok, fixed the larva speed and added nuke. Thanks to lololol for the info.

Another thing he mentioned is that the ratio I should have been using was 23,8 / 15 which is 1,586666... and not exactly 1,6. This means that the 3rd level upgrades, for example, are two seconds too early. I will fix this soon.

Zerg
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Units

Larva 12,5
Drone 12,5
Zergling 17,5
Hydralisk 17,5
Mutalisk 25
Scourge 18,75
Lurker 25
Queen 31,25
Ultralisk 37,5
Defiler 31,25
Guardian 25
Devourer 25
Overlord 25
Infested Terran 25

Buildings

Hatchery 75
Lair 62,5
Hive 75
Nydus Canal 25
Hydralisk Den 25
Defiler Mound 37,5
Greater Spire 75
Queen's Nest 37,5
Evolution Chamber 25
Ultralisk Cavern 50
Spire 75
Spawning Pool 50
Creep Colony 12,5
Spore Colony 12,5
Sunken Colony 12,5
Extractor 25

Upgrades

Zerg Carapace 166,25 186,25 206,25
Zerg Flyer Carapace 166,25 186,25 206,25
Zerg Melee Attacks 166,25 186,25 206,25
Zerg Missile Attacks 166,25 186,25 206,25
Zerg Flyer Attacks 166,25 186,25 206,25
Ventral Sacs 100
Antennae 83,125
Pneumatized Carapace 83,125
Metabolic Boost 62,5
Adrenal Glands 62,5
Muscular Augments 62,5
Grooved Spines 62,5
Gamete Meiosis 103,75
Metasynaptic Node 103,75
Chitinous Plating 83,125
Anabolic Synthesis 83,125

Abilities

Burrowing 50
Spawn Broodling 50
Plague 62,5
Consume 62,5
Ensnare 50
Lurker Aspect 75

Terran
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Units

SCV 12,5
Marine 15
Firebat 15
Medic 18,75
Ghost 31,25
Vulture 18,75
Siege Tank 31,25
Goliath 25
Wraith 37,5
Valkyrie 31,25
Science Vessel 50
Dropship 31,25
Battlecruiser 83,125

Buildings

Command Center 75
Comsat Station 25
Nuclear Silo 50
Supply Depot 25
Refinery 25
Barracks 50
Bunker 18,75
Engineering Bay 37,5
Missile Turret 18,75
Academy 50
Factory 50
Machine Shop 25
Armory 50
Starport 43,75
Control Tower 25
Science Facility 37,5
Physics Lab 25
Covert Ops 25

Upgrades

Infantry Armor 166,25 186,25 206,25
Vehicle Plating 166,25 186,25 206,25
Ship Plating 166,25 186,25 206,25
Infantry weapons 166,25 186,25 206,25
Vehicle Weapons 166,25 186,25 206,25
Ship Weapons 166,25 186,25 206,25
U-238 Shells 62,5
Ion Thrusters 62,5
Titan Reactor 103,75
Ocular Implants 103,75
Moebius Reactor 103,75
Apollo Reactor 103,75
Colossus Reactor 103,75
Caduceus Reactor 103,75
Charon Booster 83,125
Nuclear Missile 62,5

Abilities

Stimpacks 50
Lockdown 62,5
EMP Shockwave 75
Spider Mines 50
Tank Siege Mode 50
Irradiate 50
Yamato Gun 75
Cloaking Field 62,5
Personnel Cloaking 50
Restoration 50
Optical Flare 75

Protoss
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Units

Probe 12,5
Zealot 25
Dragoon 31,25
High Templar 31,25
Archon 12,5
Dark Templar 31,25
Dark Archon 12,5
Shuttle 37,5
Observer 25
Reaver 43,75
Scarab 4,375
Corsair 25
Scout 50
Arbiter 100
Carrier 87,5
Interceptor 12,5

Buildings

Nexus 75
Pylon 18,75
Gateway 37,5
Assimilator 25
Cybernetics Core 37,5
Forge 25
Photon Cannon 31,25
Citadel of Adun 37,5
Templar Archives 37,5
Stargate 43,75
Fleet Beacon 37,5
Arbiter Tribunal 37,5
Robotics Facility 50
Robotics Support Bay 18,75
Observatory 18,75

Upgrades

Protoss Armor 166,25 186,25 206,25
Protoss Ground Weapons 166,25 186,25 206,25
Protoss Plating 166,25 186,25 206,25
Protoss Air Weapons 166,25 186,25 206,25
Protoss Plasma Shields 166,25 186,25 206,25
Singularity Charge 103,75
Leg Enhancements 83,125
Scarab Damage 103,75
Reaver Capacity 103,75
Gravitic Drive 103,75
Sensor Array 83,125
Gravitic Boosters 83,125
Khaydarin Amulet 103,75
Apial Sensors 103,75
Gravitic Thrusters 103,75
Carrier Capacity 62,5
Khaydarin Core 103,75
Argus Jewel 103,75
Argus Talisman 103,75

Abilities

Psionic Storm 75
Hallucination 50
Recall 75
Stasis Field 62,5
Disruption Web 50
Mind Control 75
Maelstrom 62,5

Hyperionnn

Turkey4968 Posts

December 25 2008 17:42 GMT

I never knew that arbiter needs more time then carriers to produce, that's really good stuff man.

tracer

Korea (South)693 Posts

December 25 2008 17:50 GMT

Wow, I always thought hatcheries took less time to make than CC's or nexus. Huh.

DanceCommander

United States1808 Posts

December 25 2008 18:28 GMT

On December 26 2008 02:50 tracer wrote:
Wow, I always thought hatcheries took less time to make than CC's or nexus. Huh.

same.

Your measurements are in seconds, right? becuase i always thought starcraft time was a little faster.

jello_biafra

United Kingdom6639 Posts

December 25 2008 18:30 GMT

On December 26 2008 03:28 DanceCommander wrote:

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same.

Your measurements are in seconds, right? becuase i always thought starcraft time was a little faster.

That's why he converted them so we could see how long it actually was.

Thanks for this ^^

Empyrean

17040 Posts

December 25 2008 18:42 GMT

Yeah, Arbiter is the longest build time unit/building in the game.

Solinren

United States2653 Posts

December 25 2008 18:48 GMT

I thought everyone knew this stuff already. How else would you play if you didn't know all these?

Racenilatr

United States2756 Posts

December 25 2008 18:48 GMT

ah much thanks

anImaru

United States106 Posts

December 25 2008 18:53 GMT

how long does a nuke take to build?

lololol

5198 Posts

December 25 2008 18:54 GMT

#10

The number BWChart uses is 23.8 frames per second for fastest(as opposed to 15 for normal), so the ratio is fine.
If you build a drone from the last larva from a hatch, the new larva will spawn right as the drone finishes, so larvae spawn at the rate drones build -> 12.5 seconds.
Some of your values are off by less than 0.625 seconds(yes, it's no big deal), since StarEdit shows the values rounded down to a whole number. For example all your 103.75 are actually 104.1(6) or 105, if you use the ratio BWChart uses. If you want to see the exact values from the data files, you could dl DatEdit and extract them.

On December 26 2008 03:53 anImaru wrote:
how long does a nuke take to build?

62.5 seconds

village_idiot

2436 Posts

December 25 2008 19:17 GMT

#11

On December 26 2008 03:54 lololol wrote:
The number BWChart uses is 23.8 frames per second for fastest(as opposed to 15 for normal), so the ratio is fine.
If you build a drone from the last larva from a hatch, the new larva will spawn right as the drone finishes, so larvae spawn at the rate drones build -> 12.5 seconds.
Some of your values are off by less than 0.625 seconds(yes, it's no big deal), since StarEdit shows the values rounded down to a whole number. For example all your 103.75 are actually 104.1(6) or 105, if you use the ratio BWChart uses. If you want to see the exact values from the data files, you could dl DatEdit and extract them.

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62.5 seconds

Hmm, quite unfortunate that the numbers are a bit off. I'll look into this tomorrow.

Also added the nuke info in the Terran Upgrades section.

jhNz

Germany2762 Posts

December 25 2008 20:03 GMT

#12

i always thought overlords need the same amount of time to build like pylons do. nice to see that they need more (considering that they can drop, move and detect).

h4xh4xh4x

Canada90 Posts

December 26 2008 03:19 GMT

#13

Interesting - Thanks!

LuckyFool

United States9015 Posts

December 26 2008 03:39 GMT

#14

upgrades are longer as they go higher? never knew that!

anotak

United States1537 Posts

December 26 2008 03:40 GMT

#15

oh wow i asked about this stuff a long time ago but nobody answered
i was going to take build orders and make mp3s of them so you can practice by hearing sounds every time you need to do something (ex. make an SCV)

omninmo

2349 Posts

June 28 2009 17:23 GMT

#16

bumped due to renewed interest in such matters thanks to day[9]'s latest podcast. this ought to be in liquipedia.

prelim analyisis:
-you can build a tank and one vulture in the time it takes to build a factory.
-in the time it takes to upgrade +1 vehicle attack you can produce 5.33 tanks or 8.33 vults from each factory.
-use this to figure out the relation between how workers spamming depot/pylons are needed for consta-pumping [x unit] from [y production buildings]

this is a really great wealth of data. if the numbers seem confusing just try to understand them in relation to each other.

anderoo

Canada1876 Posts

June 28 2009 17:46 GMT

#17

ultralisks build in 35 seconds?
feels like 10 minutes in-game

Dreadwave

Netherlands254 Posts

June 28 2009 19:15 GMT

#18

The OP calculated the buildtimes with the wrong ratio and never updated them sadly, I calculated the (rounded down)build times with the correct ratio some time ago and posted them before but not in this thread. I calculated the numbers and rounded them down, there might still be errors in it somewhere.

I have everything with the same buildtime grouped for easy memorisation, or at least that was the idea at the time.
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buildtimes are in seconds(=SCtime/(23.8/15))
units are in normal font
buildings are in bold

Protoss:
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Units and buildings:
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4,4 scarab
12,6 probe/archon/darchon/interceptor
18,9 Pylon/Observatory/Robotics Support Bay/Shield Battery
25,2 Zealot/Corsair/Observer/Forge/Assimilator
31,5 Dragoon/High Templar/Dark Templar/Photon Cannon/
37,8 Shuttle/Gateway/Cybernetics Core/Citadel of Adun/Templar Archives/Fleet Beacon/Arbiter Tribunal
44,1 Reaver/Stargate
50,4 Scout/Robotics Facility
75,6 Nexus
88,2 Carrier
63,0,8 Arbiter

Upgrades
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63,0 Carrier Capacity
83,8 Leg Enhancements
83,8 Sensor Array
83,8 Gravitic Boosters
83,8 Sensor Array
83,8 Gravitic Boosters
104,6 Singularity Charge
104,6 Scarab Damage
104,6 Reaver Capacity
104,6 Gravitic Drive
104,6 Khaydarin Amulet
104,6 Apial Sensors
104,6 Gravitic Thrusters
104,6 Khaydarin Core
104,6 Argus Jewel
104,6 Argus Talisman
167,65 187,82 207,98 Protoss Armor Protoss Ground Weapons Protoss Plating Protoss Air Weapons Protoss Plasma Shields

Abilities:
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50,4 Hallucination
50,4 Disruption Web
63,0 Stasis Field
63,0 Maelstrom
75,6 Mind Control
75,6 Psionic Storm
75,6 Recall

Zerg:
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Units and buildings
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12,6 Drones/Larva/Creep colony/Sunken colony/Spore Colony
17,6 Zergling/Hydralisk
18,9 Scourge
25,2 Overlord/Lurker/Mutalisk/Guardian/Devourer/Infested Terran/Hydralisk Den/Evolution Chamber/Extractor/Nydus Canal
31,5 Defiler/Queen
37,8 Ultralisk/Queen's Nest/Defiler Mound
50,4 Spawning PoolUltralisk Cavern
63,0 Lair
75,6 HatcheryHiveSpire/Greater Spire/Infested Command Center

Upgrades
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63,0 Metabolic Boost
63,0 Adrenal Glands
63,0 Muscular Augments
63,0 Grooved Spines
83,8 Antennae
83,8 Pneumatized Carapace
83,8 Chitinous Plating
83,8 Anabolic Synthesis
100,84 Ventral Sacs
104,6 Gamete Meiosis
104,6 Metasynaptic Node
167,65 187,82 207,98 Zerg Carapace Zerg Flyer Carapace Zerg Melee Attacks Zerg Missile Attacks Zerg Flyer Attacks

Abilities
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50,4 Burrowing
50,4 Spawn Broodling
50,4 Ensnare
63,0 Plague
63,0 Consume
75,6 Lurker Aspect

Terran
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Units and buildings
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12,6 SCV
15,1 Marine/Firebat
18,9 Medic/Vulture/Missile Turret/Bunker
25,2 Goliath/Supply depot/Refinery/Machine Shop/Control Tower/Physics Lab/Covert Ops
31,5 Siege Tank/Dropship/Valkyrie/Ghost
37,8 Wraith/Engineering bay/Science Facility
44,1 Starport
50,4 Science Vessel/Barracks/Academy/Armory/Nuclear Silo
75,6 Command Center
83,8 Battlecruiser

Upgrades
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63,0 U-238 Shells
63,0 Ion Thrusters
63,0 Nuclear Missile
83,8 Charon Booster
104,6 Titan Reactor
104,6 Ocular Implants
104,6 Moebius Reactor
104,6 Apollo Reactor
104,6 Colossus Reactor
104,6 Caduceus Reactor
167,65 187,82 207,98 Infantry Armor Vehicle Plating Ship Plating Infantry weapons Vehicle Weapons Ship Weapons

Abilities
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50,4 Stimpacks
50,4 Spider Mines
50,4 Tank Siege Mode
50,4 Irradiate
50,4 Personnel Cloaking
50,4 Restoration
63,0 Lockdown
63,0 Cloaking Field
75,6 Optical Flare
75,6 EMP Shockwave
75,6 Yamato Gun

dhe95

United States1213 Posts

June 29 2009 01:59 GMT

#19

I actually did the exact same thing except only with protoss, and my times were similar, except the fact that for protoss buildings there's about a one second delay in when the building finishes and when it can be used (the time when full form is "warping in")

Also, I got about 7 seconds for a worker to mine a mineral and return it, and 13 seconds for larva/probe/scv/drone.

Pokebunny

United States10654 Posts

June 29 2009 02:02 GMT

#20

On December 26 2008 12:39 LuckyFool wrote:
upgrades are longer as they go higher? never knew that!

seriously ?! how can you not know that

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