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ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
October 25 2008 08:40 GMT
#46
I sign up, I sign up!
+ Show Spoiler +
pleeeeaaaseee ;]
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
October 25 2008 11:17 GMT
#62
On October 25 2008 18:46 Bockit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2008 18:34 MYM.Testie wrote:
On October 25 2008 18:15 Plexa wrote:
Sign me up plz


BANNED FROM LAST GAME FOR WORKING WHILE DEAD Y/N?


It's ok I'm pretty sure plexa will die either first night or first lynch


that's so true ;]
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
October 29 2008 16:26 GMT
#173
On October 30 2008 01:09 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2008 12:53 Empyrean wrote:
Could I have a rough estimate of the times you'll be posting (UTC -5...that's EST) so I can best prepare myself for the frenzy of refreshes and replies?

EDIT: And town, we have more than five days. Mafia killing power is at max 5...read the rules :/


oops, 7 days then.I was thinking mafia only needed to kill 21 townies (become more than half of town) instead of 31 (outnumber town). My bad.
31/5= 6.2.


uhm? if town kills no mafia, then 6 townies die every day (5 killed by mafia, 1 by town), so after 5 days 30 townies are killed and only 10 remain, along with 10 mafia -> mafia win
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 01 2008 12:33 GMT
#250
On November 01 2008 20:24 Mynock wrote:
Why the hell. 3 times this game, no special role yet. WTF randomizer are you guys using?


yeah T_T
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 01 2008 19:21 GMT
#285
On November 02 2008 04:14 Unforgiven wrote:
hey guys, im not mafia this time!


Well, you were a mafia all three times, and I was a townie all three times... So we can assume that always "me being townie" => "you being mafia"
Because I'm a townie once again, you should be mafia once again, so we're gonna kill you anyway
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 02 2008 15:55 GMT
#351
On November 02 2008 23:21 Caller wrote:
22. aZnvaLiaNce (weak to moderate)
"Whoever wins, the battle does not end. The loser is set free from the battlefield, while the winner must remain there. And the survivor will live out his life as the warrior until the day he dies." -Big Boss aka Naked Snake
"Embrace the release that death brings you", he stated as he pulled the switch


This seems to me like a viable connection, aZnvaLiaNce should definately be watched.

Vengeance was the theme

couldn't this link to Unforgiven? (again )
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 02 2008 23:31 GMT
#459
On November 03 2008 07:05 Scorch wrote:
What if we lynch someone with a meaningless name and profile, like ulszz, KH1031, ZBiR or KF91? If one of these is mafia, the clues will have to be so obscure that they'll be hard to pin down. Of course that only makes sense as long as we don't really have anything better to do.


About my name - you can see where I'm from, don't you think it could be useful to check what it means in my language if there's no such word in English? It's far from meaningless. Also, I already said what it means in the previous game.
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 03 2008 08:50 GMT
#606
On November 03 2008 14:40 Chuiu wrote:
[red][b]I have made clues based on posts in the past, these are usually the hardest to find so they tend to go unnoticed.


You mean posts in this thread? Or anywhere?
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 03 2008 16:07 GMT
#658
On November 03 2008 23:37 Ace wrote:
how the hell is Folca useful if he's mafia? None of you can tell me WHY you believe Folca is a legit DT.

Have you a found a clue that points to me? no
Have you found out a way to see if Folca is legit? no

And logic dictates that if anyone steps up as a DT and accuses someone and their validity can't be proven then they get lynched because otherwise mafia will always fake claim DT with no consequence. You guys are making no sense and you know it. It's like no matter what the best possible move is the plan is to lynch decaf.


Logic also tells mafia to NOT pretend to be detectives and accuse someone like that, since it will only get them killed first. This makes me think, while I'm far from being certain that Folca speaks the truth, that he's more likely to be legit than not.
Also, I completely agree with Alventenie, I don't understand why so many people work against him when obviosly letting Folca live one night gives us additional information and takes almost nothing in return.
One thing I disagree is that MidnightGladius or Aznvaliance is a more viable lynch target, as both link greatly to that "accepting the change that is death" or sth clue.
However, primary thing for me today is to keep Folca alive, so I will vote decaf, as he has way more votes than Gladius and Azn, and I think he's also possible as mafia, although not that strong.

## I vote to lynch decafchicken.
(expect this to change when Gladius has more votes)
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 03 2008 16:10 GMT
#659
Oh, and this clue "we should trust no authority" could link to Ace, as he was the mayor last game, a + for Folca
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 03 2008 23:04 GMT
#722
It's obviously not worth for a mafia to reveal himself to just kill a townie (esp. since blue percentage is quite low), so I think Folca is legit.

[b]## I change my vote from decafchicken to Ace.[\b]
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 04 2008 13:48 GMT
#914
On November 04 2008 17:46 Ace wrote:
it doesnt matter what you think. Hindsight is 20/20.

Lynching Folca first was best for the town as he was an unproven DT. Stop trying to blame other people because they were smarter than you.


Seriously, you could stop playing a retard now.

Just post some "muahahaha, I owned you n00bz", compile your list, wait for the day and die.
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 04 2008 13:54 GMT
#916
On November 04 2008 17:44 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
araav folca was gonna die regardless either tonight or next day


yeah, but then (in case Folca was legit, which came true):
a) mafia would kill him, thus sparing some townie (and changing that Ace-Folca 50-50 dispute to 100% Ace=mafia agreement hopefully)
b) mafia wouldn't kill him, not wanting to expose Ace that early - so we would get some information from him, and he would die day 2

Seriously, Alventenie's idea was the best (about not killing Folca tonight, cause I don't think decaf was the best suspect).

ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 04 2008 14:16 GMT
#919
On November 04 2008 22:56 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
Well, atm if ace is mafia he did his job by slowing us for 1 day
on day 2 , we should not waste our lynch on him why?

1) eveeryone will vote for Ace so there wont be any information with the vote count thats almost certain , so we would have lost 2 day/night circle to kill 1 mafia? not that good to me.

2) we should ask vigi to kill him at night (remember that even if 3 vigi goes on him, 2 of them wont work and wont be lost)

What im trying to say is that we will lose important information from the day 2 lynch if we kill ace cuz as we have seen today almost none of us respected the instruction we had all agreed on and we will also lose information on voting pattern




That's a good idea, however it should be certain that a vigilante will frag him (and of course no one is saying that he, as a vigi, will do it). Probably it's gonna be dependant on clues we'll get tonight, if there's something more going for Aznvaliance, Midnightgladius or Decafchicken we should follow it and act as you say.
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 04 2008 14:25 GMT
#921
On November 04 2008 23:20 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
dont worry about a vigi going after ace, if we could kill on day 1 ,ace would already die tonigt
and yeah, we have to wait for a second set of clues before thinking who do we lynch tomorrow


You know that posting like this somewhat suggests you're a vigi ?
Unless you're a vet I'd advise not doing it
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-04 15:02:25
November 04 2008 15:02 GMT
#925
On November 04 2008 16:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Day one Clue analysis

a) Last Meal theme
b)Pleading for life theme
c)"Embrace the release that death brings you"
d)Vengence theme
e)“We can trust no mayor, no governor, no authority this day or the next. We must unite to take care of the problem ourselves. Mafia if you hear me then tremble because we are united in our cause and will strike with cruel precision to drive you from our town."

+ Show Spoiler [C0bbler's thoughts] +

Suspects for a)
Decafchicken fits it by mentioning subway in his profile, as well as his obvious name attachment
Yogurt fits the mold by also being a food item, with a picture of it in his profile
Falcynn has applesauce repeated as part of his profile
Hero's pink has two people sharing a milkshake
Bockit mentions the word vegetable in his profile
KH1031 – thanksgiving mentioned in profile which is a complete meal
Fantacist dog eating quote in his profile

suspects for b)
Lenwe – really really fucking stretched here, but his comic in his profile, is like a plead for his gf or other half in life to not leave, hence in a way pleading for his life to stay the same.

Suspects for c)
Plexa – quote says ones spirit will set you free, ie embrace your death
Aznvaliance for his quote in profile saying the loser or dead man is set free


Suspects for d)
Bockit – multiplish war quotes, one directly related to ww2’s nuke attack on japan, which was done as a retaliation for pearl harbor or otherwards done for revenge


Suspects for e)
Fakesteve – mod/list of mods loving his fanclub, quote advocates we don’t trust people of power
Midnight Gladius – quote lists a general in his profile, generals are usually well trusted. This general is also advocating change which would relate to not wanting a mayor
Ace – Ace was trusted as a leader last game as he was the mayor, slim link but still there



Also as a seperate clue for ace, he was fingered by our now dead detective, who said he rolechecked him.



Also feel free to agree/destroy my quickly done up compilation above, i will be working on it more, but that is my initial list of people connected via day ones shady clues



I'd like to point my strongest suspects here
a) decafchicken - the only viable one IF it's a clue at all
b) I don't think it's a clue, and if so, there's no clear connection to anyone IMO
c) aZnvaLiance (MidnightGladius as a runner-up) - I think it fits very good to them both, also both were in that "Folca train" that Caller pointed out
d) why the fuck I was so sure Unforgiven is in this game then I don't know who it could link to, but it's a clue almost for sure
e) Ace I think, and he's already dead so we don't need to pay attention to that
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 04 2008 15:19 GMT
#930
On November 05 2008 00:10 Chuiu wrote:
Everyone who lives in the US better vote today. And just remember who the blues (Obama) are and who the reds (McCain) are.


So you should stick to the blues, or vote the reds ?
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 04 2008 15:57 GMT
#935
Nice summary Empyrean
Although I have no idea how could you say 24 honestly
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 05 2008 02:24 GMT
#980
One thing - Ace knew Folca was legit, and also knew that lynching him will reveal his identity. Why would he then want to rush his death?
First possible reason is that he was just being dumb. I think we could exclude it, knowing Ace from previous game (although I would be far from calling it 100% true, cause he seemed to panic a bit after being confronted by Folca)
The second reason - much more likely - is that he knew he's going to die so he didn't care about that, but killing Folca right now gave him (or rather the mafia team) additional benefit. That benefit would be saving other mafia member that was supposed to be lynched instead of Folca, namely decafchicken (or maybe Gladius, but he was really unlikely to die then).
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 05 2008 02:41 GMT
#983
Is one (probably) green townie's life worth more than a day more for a mafioso? I'm not so sure of that.
And I'm not saying they're surefire targets, just that it's good to consider them in this light.
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