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TL Mafia 3 [Night 5]

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KH1031
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States862 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-25 14:35:29
October 25 2008 14:20 GMT
#83
me

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Edit: I went to sleep, woke up, and the list is full...


Edit#2: I was a paramedic last round.
KH1031
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States862 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-31 02:49:55
October 31 2008 02:49 GMT
#193
why is 26. iNfuNdiBuLuM's name red?

Hint?

KH1031
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States862 Posts
November 02 2008 15:38 GMT
#341
How does lynching inactives help the town? Don't get me wrong, having inactives hurt the game, but I do not think it necessarily hurt the town.

Having inactives alive will create more buffer head counts in town. Having them dead just increases the number of dead blues.

I do, however, agree that we make everyone post so that we have some material to work with, as well as telling if they are active or not.
KH1031
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States862 Posts
November 02 2008 15:54 GMT
#349
On November 03 2008 00:41 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2008 00:38 KH1031 wrote:
How does lynching inactives help the town? Don't get me wrong, having inactives hurt the game, but I do not think it necessarily hurt the town.

Having inactives alive will create more buffer head counts in town. Having them dead just increases the number of dead blues.

I do, however, agree that we make everyone post so that we have some material to work with, as well as telling if they are active or not.
Mafia kill actives
Actives actively vote
If it comes down to the wire town wants to maximize actives to avoid mafia vote rigging
hence killing inactive is good


I don't think we can assume that mafia will necessarily kill actives, what I would agree is that the mafia will kill the ones making the greatest threat to them:
1. They certainly won't kill active reds
2. They probably won't kill idiotic actives that interprets the clues wrong and leads the town in a wrong direction.


Also, I don't quite understanding how does maximizing actives avoid mafia vote rigging?
KH1031
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States862 Posts
November 02 2008 15:55 GMT
#353
I'm going to head out...and I'll try to read the rest of the rebuttals when I come back
KH1031
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States862 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 20:30:56
November 03 2008 20:28 GMT
#715
I abstain from voting.
Edit:
I change my vote to decafchicken


For the record, I believe you Folca.
KH1031
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States862 Posts
November 04 2008 03:46 GMT
#796
So..2 more hours until night...Votes so far: 15 to 16, Ace to Falca.

I'm assuming that Falca is not a townie.

If Falca gets lynched, presumably the vigilantes will get Ace tonight. We have a dead cop/jack and a dead mafia.

If Falca gets lynched, then Ace is likely to be innocent. However, this needs to be verified.

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If Ace gets lynched, then Falca is likely to be innocent. However, this needs to be verified.

If Ace/Ace gets lynched, presumably the vigilantes will get Falca tonight. We have a dead innocent for a dead mafia.
KH1031
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States862 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-04 04:35:35
November 04 2008 04:25 GMT
#807
I think you can use vigilantes on night 1.

Unless I fail at reading the rules...


Edit:

I do fail at reading the rules.
KH1031
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States862 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-07 04:26:25
November 07 2008 04:21 GMT
#1251
I vote for Ace.

On November 07 2008 10:00 bumatlarge wrote:
Get KH1031, vigis. DO IT. Im as certain that he is mafia as everyone is sure that ace is mafia.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=80975&currentpage=54

## I vote to lynch Ace


bumatlarge...you cannot possibly be that naive, can you?

At best, the color of my name should be independent to Ace's PM.

Edit:

Also, it should be quite obvious that everyone should read all of Ace's posts with a grain of salt.
KH1031
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States862 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-09 14:11:35
November 09 2008 12:08 GMT
#1430
On November 09 2008 20:33 Scorch wrote:
Whoa, this batch of clues sucks for me, as it blatantly links to my name. To my defense, i can only say that it is too obvious to be true. Everything that has to do with fire will automatically lead to my name. Chuiu doesn't normally make clues so obvious. Then again, decafchicken was very easy too
Being on the defensive blows; I don't think I can say anything that can't be used against me. Well, I'll have to let my behavior speak for myself. So here goes:

_________________________________________________________


I vote to lynch KH1031, and I strongly encourage you to do the same. If we get this right, we can reduce killing power for the upcoming night.

Show nested quote +
On November 06 2008 14:44 bumatlarge wrote:
http://img440.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tlmafiare0.png
(screw that here is the link)

Tis an unlucky day for mafia?

I got this PM from Ace, and, as it obviously entails, I think KH is mafia. This could be an elaborate scheme to kill 2 townies, but it honestly looks like a mistaken PM. Why wouldn't Ace just include more names for the hell of it?

And of course I need to die, but I was meant to die the moment Ace sent this PM. Fate?

Green for Red. THIS IS HOW YOU DO IT FOLCA!

Ace virtually gave away KH1031 as mafia in a PM to bumatlarge (by accident?). Now that bumatlarge has been revealed as a townie, we can be sure that the screenshot of the PM is legit. KH1031 is thus most likely mafia. The only way KH can be innocent is if all of this is an elaborate mafia ploy, which I find quite unlikely.

_________________________________________________________


Furthermore, I'd like to direct your attention towards this:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2008 06:28 Mynock wrote:
Alright people, listen up: I've got information from a detective regarding the last vote tally, and it seems that out of the people who voted for decafchicken, 2 are mafia.

Another person should soon confirm the same message.

Now, we obviously can't be 100% that the information is correct, but I think it's somewhat safe to assume it is, since role-claiming, especially an important role like a DT, would be a pretty stupid move by mafia.

That would be
    Mandalor
    ZBiR
    Artanis[Xp]
    HeRoS)Pink
    Amber[LighT]
    Lenwe
    BloodyC0bbler
Since Mynock is innocent too, his information seems quite reliable. A mafia could have claimed DT towards him, but that's very risky and thus unlikely.
So we have a great 2 mafia out of 5 (40%):
    ZBiR
    Artanis[Xp]
    HeRoS)Pink
    Lenwe
    BloodyC0bbler
BloodyC0bbler seems to be high on everybody's suspect list for various reasons, so he should be killed soon too.


I'm quite glad that I woke up early today.

Although you're blatantly trying to accuse me so that the attention would be redirected, I will try to stay objective on your logical analysis.

Fact: After bumatlarge revealed the PM Ace "accidentally" sent him in, he died in the following night (Night 2). In the screenshot of the PM it was specifically mentioned that bumatlarge would die in Night 2, and KH1031 is implied to be the mafia in the PM.

The way I see it, there are a couple possibilities:

1.KH1031 is a mafia, and the mafias killed bumatlarge.
2.KH1031 is a mafia, and some vigilante killed bumatlarge.
3. KH1031/KH1031 is not a mafia, and the mafias killed bumatlarge.
4. KH1031/KH1031 is not a mafia, and some vigilante killed bumatlarge.

You're saying that the only way KH1031/KH1031 is innocent is that this is some sort of elaborate mafia ploy. However, what you failed to include is the possibility of a vigilante responsible for the death of bumatlarge.

In case 1 - The mafias are pretty gung-ho about killing bumatlarge, even risk making one of its mafia members suspicious to the town.
In case 3 - The mafias killed bumatlarge so that KH1031/KH1031 would look red handed and desperate.
In cases 2 and 4 - What bumatlarge did was dumb enough that made him suspicious - which is reasonable for vigilantes to target him.

If somehow I die today/tonight and turn out to be non-mafia, I would suggest people to look into your post again.

Edit: typo correction and case comments.
Edit2: grammar/text color corrections
KH1031
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States862 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-09 12:48:19
November 09 2008 12:47 GMT
#1432
On November 09 2008 21:33 Scorch wrote:
The fact remains that Ace (accidentally?) said that KH1031 is mafia. While it might be a mafia plan, Ace did undoubtedly say it, no matter whether bumatlarge was mafia'd or vigi'd. Ace is a good player and probably capable of devising such a plan, but I don't think that's the case here.


It seems like your argument hinges on the "fact" that Ace mentioned KH1031 in his PM to bumatlarge, and he was subsequently killed.


I don't know what do you consider to constitute a fact.

How about Ace (purposely?) said that KH1031/KH1031 is a mafia?

Is that a fact to you as well?
KH1031
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States862 Posts
November 09 2008 12:51 GMT
#1433
For your accusation, I think I've presented my case clearly. I'm going to leave it to the town the decide.

Unless I see another attack of new sorts, I shall remain silent.
KH1031
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States862 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-10 15:00:34
November 10 2008 01:05 GMT
#1474
On November 09 2008 15:25 Chuiu wrote:
[image loading]
Mandalor was having just as little luck with his opponent and things got worse when it turned into a knife fight. His agile opponent grabbed Mandalor on the shoulder and pulled him close as he plunged the dagger in one side of Mandalors stomach. To finish Mandalor off he pulled the blade all the way to the other end of his stomach.

MidnightGladius' Profile

I think MidnightGladius is this guy.

Can someone check?

Also...I realized that I forgot to vote yesterday.

For now, I vote for MidnightGladius. (11/10/08 10:06 KST)

I change my vote to fanatacist (11/11/08 00:00 KST)
KH1031
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States862 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-10 03:48:49
November 10 2008 03:45 GMT
#1516
Hmm...

Am I missing something here?
From what I observed, I posted a possible clue on MidnightGladius and everyone jumped on the bandwagon. Then fusionsdf came out with some breaking news, then everyone switched again.

Also, it seems that no one has questioned fusionsdf's identity so far (Seriously, am I missing something here?)

Okay...case breakdown again:

Assuming that all of the following players are sane (Big assumption, I must say)

1. fusionsdf/fusionsdf got a PM from a DT, whom rolechecked fanatacist, and fanatacist is a mafia.
2. fusionsdf/fusionsdf got a PM from a DT, whom claimed that he rolechecked fanatacist, and fanatacist/fanatacist is not a mafia
3. fusionsdf MADE UP THE PM, and fanatacist/fanatacist is not a mafia.
4. fusionsdf MADE UP THE PM, and fanatacist is a mafia
5. fusionsdf got a PM from a DT, whom claimed that he rolechecked fanatacist, and fanatacist is a mafia.

It seems like most of the posts so far only considered cases 1 and 2. Unless you guys know some information that I don't, I cannot see why we should rule out the possibility of case 3.

Case 4 and 5 seems rather unlikely, but I think it's necessary to put it up here.


Edit:

Apparently my reply took a while to type up, and meanwhile more drama happened while I was typing this up.

I have to head to bed...maybe tomorrow I'll see what happens.

KH1031
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States862 Posts
November 10 2008 15:01 GMT
#1560
Note: I've changed my vote to fanatacist. I made an edit in my initial vote post.
KH1031
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States862 Posts
November 11 2008 06:00 GMT
#1585
yay!
KH1031
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States862 Posts
November 12 2008 22:43 GMT
#1699
I vote for KH1031.

Note: I will make up my mind on who to vote in 24 hours.
In the meantime, I am voting for myself so that people don't bitch me about abstaining.
KH1031
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States862 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-14 01:42:12
November 14 2008 01:41 GMT
#1755
I CHANGE my vote for MTF

Sorry about the last minute vote.

Just got home.
KH1031
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States862 Posts
November 15 2008 07:22 GMT
#1792
heh
KH1031
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States862 Posts
November 15 2008 16:14 GMT
#1807
I think we should call this round gg and start a new round.

Mafias wave your white flags, you deserve a clean death.

I vote for MTF
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