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Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 13 2008 20:01 GMT
#119
sweet. I v ote to lynch Dr.Dragoon first :D
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 14 2008 21:53 GMT
#200
I got ur back Falcynn don't worry =D
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 18 2008 15:09 GMT
#490
On March 18 2008 23:26 Ace wrote:


If more than 4 people PM Ghar about being DT thats GREAT for the Town. Because now we'd have a suspect list and people caught false role claiming meaning we certainly have some Mafia cornered.

.


Uhhhh no? You can't say that people who are faking the Detective spot are necessarily mafia. They can be townies as well. Don't forget it's the Mafia vs. The Townies & The Townies vs. The Townies.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 18 2008 15:13 GMT
#493
On March 19 2008 00:10 Lenwe wrote:
If the mayor that is elected is mafia, I think the mafia win with that plan. They get to remove the mayor and one detective from the game for the price of only one of their members.

If however the mayor is a townie, the plan sounds good to me.

With the detective roles I assume we will find out if the mayor is a mafia member anyway since there is bound to be at least one detective checking that.

Right now it is hard to trust anyone, but near impossible to point out the mafia members (unless they do something really stupid). We, as the town, have to be careful to accuse anyone since the mafia can easily benefit from that. If we start accusing other townies and fighting amongst ourselves the mafia have nothing worry about in the beginning. Also something Bill307 said in the write-up post made a lot of sense to me.

Show nested quote +
I think the only way to form true evidence-based suspicions is to require numerous clues at a minimum, since multiple red-herrings pointing to the same unfortunate Towny is much less likely than multiple intentional clues pointing to the same mafioso.


While Ghar's plan indeed is good and it does give direction, it also really bad if we elect a mayor that turns out to be mafia.

So, considering Randomburn put in the effort to send out pm's before the roles were handed out, there being a 20/130 chance he then got a mafia role and with the excellent voting record he had last game, I am inclined to go with him for mayor.


All that said and done, I wouldn't vote for someone who sent out PM's before the game began if he wanted to be mayor. His attitude can also change within that short period. I wouldn't vote for him because he bought interest before the game even began, so it takes away from the potential fact that he could be mafia.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 18 2008 15:34 GMT
#498
On March 19 2008 00:15 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2008 00:09 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On March 18 2008 23:26 Ace wrote:


If more than 4 people PM Ghar about being DT thats GREAT for the Town. Because now we'd have a suspect list and people caught false role claiming meaning we certainly have some Mafia cornered.

.


Uhhhh no? You can't say that people who are faking the Detective spot are necessarily mafia. They can be townies as well. Don't forget it's the Mafia vs. The Townies & The Townies vs. The Townies.



Why would ANY Townie that isn't a moron claim the DT role?

Anyone faking DT has to be Mafia, because any Townie doing that after reading all these posts explaining the plan would realize they are hurting the Town by doing so.

also, this is not in any way Townies vs Townies. At all. More so it's the uninformed majority vs the informed minority, and one of the ways to get around that trend is to share info with those that we 100% know is innocent.


lol did you play last game?
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 18 2008 15:51 GMT
#507
On March 19 2008 00:50 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2008 00:34 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On March 19 2008 00:15 Ace wrote:
On March 19 2008 00:09 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On March 18 2008 23:26 Ace wrote:


If more than 4 people PM Ghar about being DT thats GREAT for the Town. Because now we'd have a suspect list and people caught false role claiming meaning we certainly have some Mafia cornered.

.


Uhhhh no? You can't say that people who are faking the Detective spot are necessarily mafia. They can be townies as well. Don't forget it's the Mafia vs. The Townies & The Townies vs. The Townies.



Why would ANY Townie that isn't a moron claim the DT role?

Anyone faking DT has to be Mafia, because any Townie doing that after reading all these posts explaining the plan would realize they are hurting the Town by doing so.

also, this is not in any way Townies vs Townies. At all. More so it's the uninformed majority vs the informed minority, and one of the ways to get around that trend is to share info with those that we 100% know is innocent.


lol did you play last game?


I read it, and thats the exact situation I'm trying to avoid this time around.


1/130 remember that.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 19 2008 16:59 GMT
#1042
On March 20 2008 01:16 Falcynn wrote:
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On March 20 2008 01:13 Ziel wrote:
On March 19 2008 09:09 Kau wrote:
On March 19 2008 09:02 Ace wrote:
On March 19 2008 08:57 Kau wrote:
Ace:

About your Bodyguard plan, what stops a mafia mayor from pming each actual bodyguard with a list that is something like:

mafia 1
mafia 2
mafia 3
bodyguard #

Each actual bodyguard would get a pm back from each of the fake mafia-bodyguards and they wouldn't know.

Then once the mayor gets checked by a detective, couldn't there be fake mafia-detectives that state that the mayor is innocent?


They can't because all the other Bodyguards that didn't get a PM would know something is wrong. In the event that they do that, it just helps the town because we can just apply all clues and DT/Jack power to that list of suspects and catch the Mafia asap.

No fake detective is going to spring forward and state the Mayor is innocent because they run the risk at having a real detective also step forward and once again we are back to place where we have confirmed a situation with at least 1 suspect as Mafia (because someone is lying) and a sure fire Mafia lynching.



What I'm saying is that the pm is sent to every real bodyguard. Say there are 3 bodyguards. 3 pms would be sent out:

Mafia 1
Mafia 2
Bodyguard 1

Mafia 1
Mafia 2
Bodyguard 2

Mafia 1
Mafia 2
Bodyguard 3

Each bodyguard would then get pms back from Mafia 1 and 2 and thus are "confirmed".

And about fake detectives springing forward and stating the mayor is innocent, the townies have no way of knowing who is telling the truth and who isn't. We can't know when a real detective steps forward because he could very well be fake.


WOW. This is a big flaw in the DT plan -_- And I dont see any way we can go around it if we have a mafia major. We need to seriously rethink what the mayor's backup plans are gonna be in his first 100 days in office!

I'm starting to have suspicions with Ace, because despite his sound arguments right up to this post, he's persistent in that this flaw isn't even there (if Im correct from what I've read of his posts) :O

And to the person that suggested the idea that we a detective should come up, WHO would the brave soul be? And we have no way of verifying it's true! (Unless more detectives come up..but that would be plain stupid).

Though it seems its the most solid plan we have now, having to lose even one DT for this plan...The worst case scenario is that the mafias have taught out a real good plan to mess this up and we're not seeing it...Bah I dont even know if Im making much sense now...better reread some posts again.

We've gone over this a bunch of times already. A detective will check out the mayor, if he's mafia then the detective will post his findings. After that we lynch the detective, if he turns blue then we lynch the mayor (we lynch the detective to deter mafiosos from spreading false rumors and declaring themselves detective).


Edit: and dinmsab, you have to post your votes in Chuiu's blog, not here.


Do you guys know how fucked we will be if we elect a mafia member to the mayoral position? Not saying this is a bad plan, but I'd rather not know that information, or if this is found out early keep him on until later because the bodyguards will be of no use to him unless mafia fake kills him. We need double lynches and the mayor will be more inclined to cooperate early on. So I hope we don't find out our mayor is mafia early and just cut his head.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 20 2008 09:41 GMT
#1453
What was the evidence against this again?....
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 20 2008 16:36 GMT
#1508
yah every important post gets linked on the first page so it saves some valuable digging time.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 21 2008 23:12 GMT
#1788
On March 22 2008 07:50 Alventenie wrote:
There is no reason to be impatient or nervous on night 1. You have a 9/110 chance of dieing, and think of the odds that 7/110 could be watching one of those 9, to save them!


The odds of protection is slim with such high numbers. We won't see better results until closer to the end. This is the mafia's chance to get more key role players.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 23 2008 01:37 GMT
#2044
I can't see voting for Ghar since he's not even here to defend himself. It bugs me to kill him. If we are so unsure about him we should at least give him a chance or do the detective work before we get too hasty and kill someone who could be valuable.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 25 2008 00:55 GMT
#2600
well i'm glad you guys didnt lynch ghar, but alas i will be dead come morning.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 25 2008 02:46 GMT
#2614
shallow i'll send you a PM if I die as to why. Through playing the game a couple times now I understand their motives.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 27 2008 11:38 GMT
#3112
wow .... looks like i missed this one. I'll post my analysis later when I'm in class watching some boring movies
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 29 2008 00:31 GMT
#3419
I don't think voting for Ghar is a good idea. And why should I not vote [abstain] anyway?!
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 29 2008 20:52 GMT
#3474
On March 30 2008 05:14 Falcynn wrote:
I'm starting to realize that this plan of Ace's is probably more suited to smaller games. With a large game like this we have way too many people stirring shit up and confusing everybody.

edit: and we didn't have 7000 clues...more like 2.


See?! GJ killing Ghar :/
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 30 2008 02:40 GMT
#3498
On March 30 2008 09:47 qrs wrote:
*Jaw drops*. If Ghar was a townie, I'm done with clue interpretation.



Looks like you're done interpreting clues.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 30 2008 17:28 GMT
#3528
On March 30 2008 19:35 Alethios wrote:
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On March 30 2008 04:51 Plexa wrote:
[spoiler]Mandalor could have been;
Mr White
Black Mamba
King Brown Snake
The Wolf
Mr Blue
Snake Charmer
Cottonmouth

Of these Snake Charmer seems to fit the best...
a google search of Mandalor's name reveals a common theme of knights (despite there being no real meaning for the name) Seeing as there are no other clues anywhere in mandalor's profile/quote etc im 99% he was snakecharmer

You probably know this, but "Snake Charmer" was the Codename for Bill (the leader) of the Deadly Vipers Assassination Squad.

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On March 30 2008 14:08 qrs wrote:
On March 30 2008 11:40 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On March 30 2008 09:47 qrs wrote:
*Jaw drops*. If Ghar was a townie, I'm done with clue interpretation.

Looks like you're done interpreting clues.

Thank you, Captain Obvious.

Anytime.
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On March 30 2008 04:23 LTT wrote:
Voted for Wurm but shouldn't have - 5
Ace - (Safe, lol)
Amber[LighT]
Puosu
Alethios(2)
Siefu
decafchicken

The people, such as myself, who voted but "shouldn't have" are actually doing the town a favour. If the mafia count on those two lists combined don't increase, the extra people are all townies. Waiting on Ace to post the counts. I hope we are still getting them.

---------

Ace seems to think he can win without our help. The vigilantes will be busy won't they?



I asked why I should 'abstain.' I never got an answer so I never took back my vote. Having people (like myself) abstain makes us look bad in the long run because you can then turn around and say:

"well Amber[LighT] never actually voted, and to protect himself he just abtained."

All I wanted was to know why I was to abstain. I didn't see an answer. You guys will shoot yourselves in the foot if we just vote because of 'other circumstances.'

And I want to get this straight:

We wanted to kill our medic?! (or did we actually think he was mafia?)
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 30 2008 17:29 GMT
#3529
Oh and I'm not arguing with you specifically I just used your post cuz I noticed my name was quoted quite a bit...
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 31 2008 16:32 GMT
#3552
On March 31 2008 13:12 Falcynn wrote:
lol, we're not allowed to elect a new mayor

.


yah so lets be careful before saying we will kill our mayor yes?
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
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