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semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-28 02:18:33
January 28 2008 02:07 GMT
#1
Starcraft Playback: Week 1
by semioldguy
TeamLiquid: Final Edits


Welcome to the first issue of Starcraft Playback. Starcraft Playback will be filling the hole left by Starcraft TiVo, with a few changes. The installment will still be weekly, or at least nearly weekly. It will still list the best games of the week, though will be focusing on providing less games than before and spotlighting only the very best of recent matches. Also each game listed here will be provided with a short description and end with some thoughts about the week in general.



Shinhan Proleague Playoffs: Round 2
Saturday, January 19, 2008

MBC Game vs CJ Entus Game 2 - Pusan vs Kwanro on Baekmagoji
TLPD VOD
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The lack of quality games in the last week have caused me to reach a little further back in providing exciting games. Pusan's only gateway is part of the wall at his choke. Kwanro makes use of the neutral creep to offensive sunken the wall with zergling support while Pusan tries getting cannons up to desperately defend. A short game, but the impulsive build by Kwanro makes it worth watching.


MBC Game vs CJ Entus Game 5 - Hyun vs Much on Blue Storm
TLPD VOD
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CJ has their back against the wall as their captain fights for their comeback. Much seems to be at a slight disadvantage for much of the game, but with a few moments of impeccable timing and an amazing use of psionic storms he is able to repel Hyun's attacks as the players move toward the endgame. Much eventually presses his slight advantage into a nail biter victory.


MBC Game vs CJ Entus Game 7 - Sea vs Darkelf on Python
TLPD VOD
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In this rematch of the first game of the series Darkelf uses an aggressive and unique build order that throws Sea off guard. It was a build that Darkelf prepared for non-opposite positions as he scouts across the map first to determine his next steps. Darkelf moves in at just the right time and with micro, and perhaps a little bit of luck, CJ's Ace completes one of Proleague's best comebacks.


Bacchus OSL: Round of 16
Friday, January 25, 2008

Day 4 Group D - Much vs Frozean on Troy
YouTube VOD
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I hesitate to recommend this game except that there really wasn't anything better. This game is not here for the entertainment factor, though it is more so than most of the chaff that came out of this week. With the new map we see both players emerge with interesting build orders and play styles. A Terran better than Frozean would have likely provided a better game while Much, the far superior player, turns the map into islands to deny Frozean of metal mobility.


Shinhan Proleague Finals
Sunday, January 27, 2008

Lecaf OZ vs CJ Entus Game 3 - Bright/Dongrae vs Savior/Xellos on Seongangil
YouTube VOD
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The Finals matches were overall a weak set of games. Xellos is the true savior of CJ for this 2v2 match. With Savior getting cut from his gas for a bit and falling behind early, Xellos takes advantage of his superior build order to Dongrae's in harassing the opponent Terran and keeping Bright from being able to get fully back into the game. Xellos keeps the pressure on for a long time, forcing Lecaf to stay on the defensive in what is very nearly a 1v2 battle.



This was sort of a disappointing week as far as game quality went, making this inaugural issue a little short. The OSL games have been mostly boring, short and one-sided, with a side helping of controversy on the July vs Bisu game. The MSL was slightly less bland, but nothing special this week and lets just say the proleague finals didn't quite meet expectations. Hopefully the coming week will provide more entertainment. If you find yourself still hungering for more good games, check out the revitalized replay section. {88}iNcontroL is a new, and active, uploader. Watch some of the reps he has uploaded and I'm sure you won't be disappointed.
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HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-28 03:18:46
January 28 2008 03:15 GMT
#2
kickass i love these things

wow i love the english commentary and wow id just like to say the quality of english from people from non-english-speaking countries on this website is just unbelievable!
"Oh no, we've drawn Judge Schneider" "Is that bad?" "Well, he's had it in for me ever since I kinda ran over his dog" "You did?" "Yeah...if you replace the word *kinda* with *repeatedly*...and the word *dog* with son"
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
January 28 2008 03:21 GMT
#3
fusionsdf and I should be alternating weeks on this.

Also, I was curious about what people think of the writeups. I didn't want to make them too detailed or long so that people who might want to watch could quickly get an idea of what sort of game they were going to see without knowing everything that happens in the game. Any other feedback is also appreciated.
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Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-28 03:53:39
January 28 2008 03:53 GMT
#4
On January 28 2008 12:21 semioldguy wrote:
fusionsdf and I should be alternating weeks on this.

Also, I was curious about what people think of the writeups. I didn't want to make them too detailed or long so that people who might want to watch could quickly get an idea of what sort of game they were going to see without knowing everything that happens in the game. Any other feedback is also appreciated.


That's exactly what I thought when I was reading the descriptions. I have already seen all the games but the write-ups were short but detailed enough to get me interested had I not seen the vods.

Will Haji still do this Tivo?

edit: stupid ass question lol
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pheer
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
5391 Posts
January 28 2008 04:02 GMT
#5
I like this premise better.
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ZergZoul
Profile Joined April 2007
Mexico408 Posts
January 28 2008 04:58 GMT
#6
Nice. I like this new format.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
January 28 2008 05:12 GMT
#7
Fun. ^^; watching all the games can be a bit of a drain; gw both of you
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MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
January 28 2008 05:55 GMT
#8
good job, i like tihs format too, the other one had too many games and i didn't know what to look for in it

But what happened to haji? Did we ever find out?
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
January 28 2008 05:55 GMT
#9
awesome just don't burn yourself out like haji did
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semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
January 28 2008 06:03 GMT
#10
I don't plan on burning out, which is one of the reasons I only intend to do it every other week. And I think this format will be less intensive than haji's was. I won't feel pressured to watch every single game. I'll watch what I already do anyway and then just poke around the live report threads and such to make sure I don't miss something great.
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Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11301 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-28 08:27:58
January 28 2008 08:26 GMT
#11
There are some matches which might not be the most exciting but have educational value:
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Kal played very solid against Kwanro, who obviously didn't know what to go for (MSL game). Luxury showed how the proper Muta -> Ultra transition could look like, though Xellos got really paranoid on the towers (OSL). And finally there is Jaedong vs. Iris which was one of the "what did Iris wrong" games - Jaedong just had impeccable timing and Iris was bashing his head against the darkswarm wall. Technically he did everything right, but there still weren't the holes which were supposed to be there. (PL finals) Certainly interesting for educational value and shows that Jaedong can play management style just as well as short term harass. edit: of that very game, there was apparently a subtitled version added!


But apart from that, there were so many one sided rape matches.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
January 28 2008 09:49 GMT
#12
really awesome semioldguy, look forward to these every time you do them

this plus the new highlight format for reports is going to keep me up to date on all the good games, even though i dont have that much time to spend on progaming recently

thanks!
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Disarray
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1164 Posts
January 28 2008 11:33 GMT
#13
great list, but how could you not include Jaedong and Iris. that was an incredible game i thought.

also the 2v2 of MBC Game vs. CJ Entus were memory pretty much 2v1d them was great
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azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
January 28 2008 13:25 GMT
#14
I love the CJ fanboyism + Show Spoiler +
and how every single game you recommend was one won by CJ players , which of course means I've seen all of those games before
trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
January 28 2008 17:51 GMT
#15
On January 28 2008 15:03 semioldguy wrote:
I don't plan on burning out, which is one of the reasons I only intend to do it every other week. And I think this format will be less intensive than haji's was. I won't feel pressured to watch every single game. I'll watch what I already do anyway and then just poke around the live report threads and such to make sure I don't miss something great.


also it wont be this intensive u dont have 5 days of proleague , it's more easy to see all the games
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-28 19:46:36
January 28 2008 19:12 GMT
#16
On January 28 2008 22:25 azndsh wrote:
I love the CJ fanboyism + Show Spoiler +
and how every single game you recommend was one won by CJ players , which of course means I've seen all of those games before


heh, I didn't even realize that.

and I didn't list the Jaedong game because I just wasn't all that impressed by it. It was essentially over pretty quickly and then drawn out until it actually ended. I don't see how Iris could have gotten back into it, he was making poor decisions and not protecting his army and way too passive. Jaedong was moderately impressive, but he was so far ahead toward the end that even though he got lazy at parts he still didn't have a chance of losing. [edit] that being said, it still wasn't as bad of a game as I might have just made it seem. It was next on my list, it just didn't make the cut.
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HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
January 28 2008 20:12 GMT
#17
Hey guys I can't create a new thread so can I plz just ask this noobish question are there any VoD's of JUST the 1st person perspective of pros?
"Oh no, we've drawn Judge Schneider" "Is that bad?" "Well, he's had it in for me ever since I kinda ran over his dog" "You did?" "Yeah...if you replace the word *kinda* with *repeatedly*...and the word *dog* with son"
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
January 28 2008 20:14 GMT
#18
You can find some FPVods on youtube, but i don't think we have them in the TLPD. Maybe on some korean sites like yaoyaun or something too? I'm not sure. But youtube has some.
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-28 23:51:35
January 28 2008 21:23 GMT
#19
I would also recommend the 2v2 between Mania/Jy vs the MBC 2v2 and the savior/nbs 2v2 if you like 2v2 at least a little.

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The first 2v2 with nbs and SaviOr features a cute build which didn't seal the deal mainly because of nbs decisions. the MBC terran (i think it was Light?) did a nice job holding the 2v2 on his shoulders

The second 2v2 isn't great strategically speaking but the whole playoff depends on a micro battle near the end of the game. Really entertaining to watch hearing the screaming of the fans knowing what was at stake.
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semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
January 28 2008 21:37 GMT
#20
The whole MBC vs CJ series was pretty amazing. You should probably just watch it from beginning to end if you haven't.
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