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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 06 2015 09:47 GMT
#6
Seems super fun!

/in
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 12 2015 10:51 GMT
#85
Sweet (= when does it start ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 19 2015 07:54 GMT
#465
Summary of the game:
- people being stupid
- RNG shit with hidden variable not being RNG
- people being stupid
- HTS not being stupid

agreeing with her on ruxx.
##Vote ruxxar
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 19 2015 09:19 GMT
#468
On August 19 2015 18:16 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 16:54 Rels wrote:
Summary of the game:
- people being stupid
- RNG shit with hidden variable not being RNG
- people being stupid
- HTS not being stupid

agreeing with her on ruxx.
##Vote ruxxar


At least you're being consistent

You know you are supposed to roleplay someone else than yourself
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 19 2015 09:22 GMT
#470
On August 19 2015 18:19 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 16:54 Rels wrote:
Summary of the game:
- people being stupid
- RNG shit with hidden variable not being RNG
- people being stupid
- HTS not being stupid

agreeing with her on ruxx.
##Vote ruxxar


Got it, everything in this game thus far is just stupid except for the "RNG" and these two posts

Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 12:33 Half the Sky wrote:
On August 19 2015 07:07 ruXxar wrote:
Hi.


On August 19 2015 07:09 ruXxar wrote:
On August 19 2015 07:08 Damdred wrote:
There once was a man named Damdred, he moved outside town one day and never turned back.

Monsters everywhere red blue and black. The hangman noose he feared the most all,he wanted was his friends but who would,be his friend? Would it be you or maybe you?
Would geript be,his friend?


LOL


On August 19 2015 07:12 ruXxar wrote:
On August 19 2015 07:08 ritoky wrote:
Clearly what needs to happen this game is that we need to follow the most surefire way to lynch mafia and win games, and that is to follow the RNG lynch.

Here's how it works:

1) you will all follow me because i am better than you.

2) i will choose who we lynch every phase via RNG, then we will lynch him without question. the RNG will be determined by this post (the one you're reading right now). each post is assigned a unique id on team liquid which cannot be manipulated because of the rate of posts on TL; this makes it the perfect candidate for determining people via RNG. then from that post id i will use the following formula to determine whom is the candidate for lynch:

(sum of each individual digit in the post id [ex: 1111 = 4]) / 21 [number of players alive in game] * coefficient of the thread's stupidity

this formula will provide a number from 1 to 21, we will lynch the player it determines without hesitation or questioning. no possible explanation or reasoning could convince me that RNG lynching is in any way sub-optimal play. please bow before the RNG and watch it carry us to victory.


I no believe this good idea.
what if you roll me o_O


Scum.

ruXxar is totes scum.

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On August 19 2015 12:34 Half the Sky wrote:
I mean what is that shit. Even LS says/does more than that shit as town.

##vote ruXxar


I can't tell if you have a legit read on ruxx yourself or if you are actually sheeping the case that ruxx is not meeting the town meta of LS.

To be fair, I haven't made much effort to read ruxx atm I just think that the 2 posts HtS made about him are weak and I don't get why you like them so much.

I thought that was clear though maybe it's too complex for you.
I think ruxxar is scummy.
I think HTS' post about ruxxar are good.

Maybe I'll expand on ruxxar if people cannot see the obvious. Not now though, I'm working.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 19 2015 09:23 GMT
#471
On August 19 2015 18:21 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 18:19 Rels wrote:
On August 19 2015 18:16 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 19 2015 16:54 Rels wrote:
Summary of the game:
- people being stupid
- RNG shit with hidden variable not being RNG
- people being stupid
- HTS not being stupid

agreeing with her on ruxx.
##Vote ruxxar


At least you're being consistent

You know you are supposed to roleplay someone else than yourself


Wow thanks I wasn't aware of the entire point of the game, I feel enlightened

No prob mate
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 19 2015 09:30 GMT
#474
On August 19 2015 18:26 ritoky wrote:
While awoken by a screaming baby at 2:30 am, I felt the compulsion to refresh everyone on what they should be doing right now. There is nothing in the thread more compelling than this, anyone not voting for fidei should explain why who they are voting for has a greater than 30% chance of being mafia; and why fidei isn't mafia when clearly RNG has shown such.

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On August 19 2015 10:18 ritoky wrote:
We should lynch Fidei

After reviewing the game, I have arrived at the same place. Fidei is the best candidate for lynch both objectively and subjectively.

The Objective Case:

RNG has selected fidei, he is mafia. If you need an explanation of how he was selected please reference my filter. Outside of that RNG is PARTICULARLY suited for this game. This is a closed setup, and historically in closed setups there is an incredibly strong likelihood that there are more anti-town players than are normally in an open setup. So with that alone our probability of hitting mafia from RNG has already increased by a significant margin. However, there is more. We are playing a game in which people are attempting to act like other people and mask their own play as someone else's. This means that day 1 reads and particularly day 1 meta reads have a diminished rate of accuracy. Meaning RNG is the optimal line of play. A situation with increased odds of hitting mafia and diminished validity of meta reads clearly points to RNG being the objective best line of play.

The Subjective Case:

Outside of RNG declaring fidei mafia, he is actually mafia. Consider his posting thus far:

On August 19 2015 08:33 Fidei86 wrote:
Ritoky, I can't get a read on you and usually we soul read each other. I think that basically means you're confirmed mafia, because if I can't read you then it means you're mafia, and usually we can tell each other's read a scarily uncanny amount of the time. Also, pushing scum doesn't make me mafia, it makes me town. Come on people.

[serious]This game started while I was out with friends, and am currently quite toasty. Will read tomorrow and revert.[/serious]


There are 3 aspects to this post that I would like to highlight:

1) The most classic mafia play ever: "Notice me senpai -> excuse about activity". His final sentence has no point other than to say hi I am here and fade away.

2) He is drunk or at least partially. This is important because drunk people are more prone to letting slip things or not being careful with their wording. Will be revisited later.

3) His immediate entrance response into the thread is to seek out me and essentially claim a personality to me in a very half-assed manner. First and foremost there is not point to this because he knows who I am and once RNG has declared him mafia, appeals to emotion are pointless only hard logic can deter me. Secondly, it may be coincidence but singling out the only person calling him mafia and appealing to them directly reads as an over-response to pressure. And finally the half-assed imitation. This will require some explanation.

I think people who are committing heavily to trying to act the part of the player they got rolled into and are sticking to it for a decent portion of time are very likely to be town. I feel that it is a risky play to play in a manner unlike yourself and in one that could potentially draw lynch attention to you for not playing "serious". Mafia are averse to both risk and lynch pressure on day 1, and thus would be less apt to fully commit to acting the part of someone else. I do not necessarily read legitimate frustration with the game type or completely ignoring who you rolled as scum though, I don't think the converse works. However, the half-ass attempts read as scum to me because it seems as if it is a mere "LOL"/attention grab for a few moments for them or a tool to further their agenda. This is the area fidei falls into in my mind.

Continuing on, and credit to Tubesock on the find here:

On August 19 2015 08:51 Fidei86 wrote:
The person who has Chezinu should be pretty obvious, and they haven't revealed themselves yet.


On August 19 2015 09:00 Fidei86 wrote:
The only Chezinu I have been exposed to is the Onegu version of Chezinu. No hate because I haven't seen the true Chezuinu in action.


On August 19 2015 09:09 Tubesock wrote:
On August 19 2015 09:00 Fidei86 wrote:
The only Chezinu I have been exposed to is the Onegu version of Chezinu. No hate because I haven't seen the true Chezuinu in action.


Then what was the purpose of your Chezinu is obvious and no one's outed yet post?

Seems to many in the thread that Damdred is obviously Chezinu...


This goes hand in hand with point #2 from above, that fidei is drunk. He made an obvious error that speaks for itself. I can elaborate further, but I feel these consecutive quotes are very self explanatory. Not only did tubesock find it important but so did others:

On August 19 2015 09:10 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 19 2015 09:09 Tubesock wrote:
On August 19 2015 09:00 Fidei86 wrote:
The only Chezinu I have been exposed to is the Onegu version of Chezinu. No hate because I haven't seen the true Chezuinu in action.


Then what was the purpose of your Chezinu is obvious and no one's outed yet post?

Seems to many in the thread that Damdred is obviously Chezinu...


super important question


On August 19 2015 09:12 ruXxar wrote:
On August 19 2015 09:09 Tubesock wrote:
On August 19 2015 09:00 Fidei86 wrote:
The only Chezinu I have been exposed to is the Onegu version of Chezinu. No hate because I haven't seen the true Chezuinu in action.


Then what was the purpose of your Chezinu is obvious and no one's outed yet post?

Seems to many in the thread that Damdred is obviously Chezinu...


^


And what was fidei's response to this important question?

On August 19 2015 09:18 Fidei86 wrote:
Assuming at some point that that will stop and this will revert to a regular mafia game?


Ignoring it and complaining. I hate to break it to you, but this is a regular mafia game already, and this is a real accusation; and you really are mafia.

Fidei is objectively and subjectively the best lynch in the game, anyone not voting for him is taking a sub-optimal line of play and is bad.


Back to bed. The truth is like a warm glass of milk.

RNG part is stupid. You RNG formula is not public.

The other part is good though. ruxxar asking tons of questions and doing nothing is scummier I think. Would be happy with the both of them.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 19 2015 16:04 GMT
#512
On August 19 2015 23:44 Half the Sky wrote:
Rels town lean.

Other than ruXxar, what about Fidei, Tubesock, ritoky?

pretty sure fidei is scum. His big post is him knowing he screwed up and fixing it
no idea on tubesock
townread on ritoki, for the good post on fidei, not for the stupid RNG shit
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 07:54 GMT
#758
hello

don't have time to play so will sheep my town reads ritoky, geript, HTS, TT, JJ, OWS
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 08:04 GMT
#760
tubesock comes back and
- attacks fidei
- defends himself
- leaves

In addition to the other shit (voting easy targets) I think he's scum. That would mean fidei is probably not scum though
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 08:27 GMT
#767
On August 20 2015 17:17 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm the townies town in the game, people scum reading me are scum or bad town.

yeah only smart townies could see such obvious townieness from your filter
guess I'm not smart
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 08:30 GMT
#769
On August 20 2015 17:28 Fidei86 wrote:
The thing that stands out to me most is that his town list is basically identical to mine.
...
So now I'm thinking Tube is probably town.

wow
that's stupid
you can't possibly think that
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 08:33 GMT
#772
##Unvote
##Vote Fidei86
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 08:35 GMT
#774
On August 20 2015 17:33 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 17:30 Rels wrote:
On August 20 2015 17:28 Fidei86 wrote:
The thing that stands out to me most is that his town list is basically identical to mine.
...
So now I'm thinking Tube is probably town.

wow
that's stupid
you can't possibly think that

Having aligned views has been a reasonable town indicator, based on my experience, which is limited. Happy to be educated if you don't agree. But with so much lurking and bad play going on, it seems like bad play to tunnel someone who actually seems to be reading the game somewhat similarly to me, surely?

ofc mafia are going to townread some town
the fact that he has townreads and almost no scumreads is scum indicative
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 08:39 GMT
#775
fidei + tubesock scumteam
only meaningful posts from tubesock comes from discussion with fidei
tubesocks does nothing except naming some townreads and defending from fidei, goes to sleep
then fidei townreads him
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 08:48 GMT
#778
On August 20 2015 17:43 Fidei86 wrote:
(1) has totally unguarded, and in hindsight, pretty dumb thread entry

Yes new (stupid) scum does just that.
On August 20 2015 17:43 Fidei86 wrote:
(2) doesn't scum read Rux immediately, who is the clear alternative wagon here and is being pushed by at least some of my town reads

Yes new (stupid) scum does just that.
On August 20 2015 17:43 Fidei86 wrote:
3) doesn't try to jump enthusiastically onto the Tube wagon, which, as you said yourself literally a couple of minutes ago, would serve to pretty much exonerate me

No. Doing that if you're mafia and tubesock is town is super stupid. Hence why I think you're a team.
On August 20 2015 17:43 Fidei86 wrote:
All that in a meta where lurkers do not get punished and indeed get a free pass (not just in this game, it happens in pretty much all my games here).

But contrary to all those lurkers, you are a lynch candidate today. It's garanteed that if you didn't post for 24 hours you would be the lynch.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 08:50 GMT
#780
now that I explained why your tubesock's townread is stupid, do you reconsider ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 08:52 GMT
#782
'cause I think tubesock is mafia
more than I think you are mafia
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 08:55 GMT
#783
On August 20 2015 17:51 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 17:48 Rels wrote:
On August 20 2015 17:43 Fidei86 wrote:
(1) has totally unguarded, and in hindsight, pretty dumb thread entry

Yes new (stupid) scum does just that.
On August 20 2015 17:43 Fidei86 wrote:
(2) doesn't scum read Rux immediately, who is the clear alternative wagon here and is being pushed by at least some of my town reads

Yes new (stupid) scum does just that.
On August 20 2015 17:43 Fidei86 wrote:
3) doesn't try to jump enthusiastically onto the Tube wagon, which, as you said yourself literally a couple of minutes ago, would serve to pretty much exonerate me

No. Doing that if you're mafia and tubesock is town is super stupid. Hence why I think you're a team.
On August 20 2015 17:43 Fidei86 wrote:
All that in a meta where lurkers do not get punished and indeed get a free pass (not just in this game, it happens in pretty much all my games here).

But contrary to all those lurkers, you are a lynch candidate today. It's garanteed that if you didn't post for 24 hours you would be the lynch.

The "push" on me started with ritoky's stupid RNG thing. If I'd just posted questions, a couple of town reads and generally not done anything, it would have fizzled out.

And none of your reasoning above excludes stupid town, except the bit where you say I have to be town if Tube is scum, which you think he is, but then you think we're on a team? Tube was on me from the start, and has only been pushing me basically - he has no other scum reads. If this is a bus strategy then it has started super early. I've never rolled mafia or seen a super early bus strat, but it doesn't seem smart to me. Why give up a teammate this early for 'cred' in a big game where it will all be forgotten immediately anyway?

this is a stupid question, are you shitting the thread intentionally ?
there are lots of avantages to mafias attacking each other: they have something to talk about (only real discussion tubesock had was with you), if one flips the other gains towncred, and both tube and you do not really have the power to get the other killed, so it could be all fake activity
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 08:59 GMT
#786
I think you're scummy. Didn't like the fact that you attacked ritoky when drunk (so you read the thread) but didn't know Damdred was Chezinu (so you didn't read the thread).
read the thread + didn't read the thread = someone told you you were attacked = guy with a QT = probably mafia

I think tubesock is mafia though
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