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On December 31 2014 15:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote: What's up nerds. Let's talk policy - unlike a lot of people I think it's plenty useful on Day 1. I believe strongly in Lynch All Liars. What's your policy on lynching people who claim scum? | ||
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On December 31 2014 14:01 Damdred wrote: I'm sorry geript was to busy in scum qt to beat you to first this time. I've been having mafia withdrawls Should we lynch damdred for claiming scum? | ||
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On December 31 2014 15:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Yes. Slam dunk case. No point in him even defending himself really. Then why didn't you follow this up with a vote on him? | ||
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On December 31 2014 15:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I want the scum to show up in the thread before I shove it in his face. I"m an awesome vet and this guy is a chump if I've ever seen one. Keep it up, you'll nail everyone soon. I think ad that damdred has some splaining yo do. To do. I don't get the sense that you actually believe this in the slightest. | ||
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On December 31 2014 15:20 Eden1892 wrote: i don't, why do you? i feel like i can just look at a particular situation and decide for myself if someone who was caught lying was town and trying too hard to do something cool or if they're mafia. and i'm putting all my votes on my best mafia read not on any policy. just peeking at the setup real quick i'm almost positive this isn't going to be an issue, not seeing anything to game not to be rude but this all seems obvious to the point of fluff... i rather just put all my votes on best mafia read and attempt to discern b/t town lurkers and mafia lurkers as the game goes along instead of making activity a point of interest. i don't worry about them until i get a vote record unless i'm really stumped verdict: Doc's post seems stiff and awkwardly timed, and I feel like most of the policy discussion that might ensue from this won't really get anywhere, but it beats chasing people up trees for opening game banter. I guess I like Doc as town for now This sure is a lot of words and not a lot of follow-up looking for alignment indicative information for you to arrive at a wishy-washy non-committal conclusion. I read this and learned basically nothing. Scum leaning. | ||
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On December 31 2014 15:55 sicklucker wrote: Like I thought it was weird that geript is suggesting hes gonna put in the effort to get a meta weird on me so early when I have done nothing scummy. (I made a semi joke/vote to vote) to mock his one. Like this could mean anything just pointing this out for someone whos played with him alot. "Weird" huh? I am interested in "weird". "Weird" how? What does this "weirdness" tell you about his alignment? Why do you have to "just point it out" for others instead of arriving at and sharing your own conclusions? | ||
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On December 31 2014 16:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote: He just did post his own conclusions on geript lol. Why are you so on peoples nuts this early, you're treating everythinf like you're 5 minutes away from posting some earth shattering case He didn't really say anything at all. Plus he described someone's play as "weird" with no qualifying explanation which is prototypical mafia day 1 early play when they don't have reason to throw scum on someone so they use a shitty superfluous descriptor. Why are you so interested in defending yourself instead of finding scum? | ||
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On December 31 2014 16:10 sicklucker wrote: Can we kill ritoky so far hes attacked doctor and missed the sarcasm and now this. If he was being sarcastic in regards to damdred then his policy is a crock of shit and makes no sense. He is willing to give exemptions in his policy for people who are "joking"? He clearly stated he wants to get people who are impediments to town by shitting up the thread, particularly with lies, out of the game. A guy claimed scum, that is right in his policy wheelhouse, yet he chooses to ignore it entirely and write it off as nothing. So either: a) he doesn't actually give 2 shits about his policy and posted it as fluff to fill up the thread b) his policy is a pile of shit or c) he knows something about damdred's alignment and elected to ignore him claiming scum. If someone is gonna claim policy and then elect not to push on people because there is a "joking" exemption; that is just a load of horse crap. | ||
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On December 31 2014 16:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote: what if i said "im mafia" would you totally flip your lid? you look really bad right now. no, i would proceed to finding my 2nd scum. you came into the thread trying to change the thread sentiment from whimsical to serious and then you didn't follow through on it at all. you're defensive, not trying to find scum, and you have already failed to follow your own established policy. you're mafia. | ||
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On December 31 2014 16:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote: You're clearly more concerned about flipping this (whatever this is) to make me look bad instead of the important thing which is your read on damdred. If you aren't 100% sure he's scum then there's nothing to even talk about, so I don't know what you're doing. i think he made a joke that has 0 alignment indicative information in it. but i am not the one spouting crap about policy lynching liars and shitters. you are, yet you choose not to follow through on that. | ||
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On December 31 2014 16:23 DoctorHelvetica wrote: wouldn't your 2nd scum be damdred anyway? or do you not suspect damdred because this is all just bullshit and you're talking about nothing like i originally thought Do you think damdred is scum? | ||
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On December 31 2014 16:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Why even bring up damdred claiming scum, something I dont sre h see that he even did if you dont think it matters? I didnt even know what you were talkimg about and youre trying to tie it into a fluff post i made to get the ball rolling. People are arguing and taking sides so I dont see it as that useless. Feel free to disagree, it doesnt matter because we are somewhere now. Because I think it is a joke that should probably not be regarded in the slightest., but policies like yours and people who maintain them don't leave gray areas for jokes. It is a policy. So you should not read it as a joke but as a scum claim. Yet you play it off like you're reading it as a joke. Which doesn't make a whole lot of sense. You also don't seem to think damdred is scum. On December 31 2014 15:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Yes. Slam dunk case. No point in him even defending himself really. On December 31 2014 15:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I believe strongly in Lynch All Liars. So should I lynch you according to your own policy? Cuz if you don't think he is scum for scum claiming then you just lied sir; even if it was supposedly sarcasm. @SL i think his policy is crap, he isn't maintaining it, and suddenly he has "joke" exemptions. furthermore i think he is a hypocrite and uninterested in finding scum. | ||
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On December 31 2014 16:35 Eden1892 wrote: ritoky, where's this going? My recollection of you from our newbie game as an insightful player who catches crucial details and asks on-point questions isn't matching up with what I'm seeing unfold before me right now. You claim to have caught Doc lying by not pursuing a policy lynch on a joke. Do you think this actually makes him mafia? i am a tunneler when i find something that doesn't add up, and i push until it does or that person dies. this guy comes into the thread makes a grandiose entrance about how he is gonna push his policy, then doesn't follow through with his policy at all. he then starts making excuses about not following through with it because someone claiming scum was a joke. news flash, i know it was a joke, but policies don't account for people joking they are black and white. nothing he has said thus far adds up to me understanding why he made an exemption in pushing the policy he wants to push in regards to damdred. he should have made at least a small comment about it and didn't; and when pushed to make a comment on it he responded with sarcasm, deflection, and being defensive. also he immediately wants to discuss lynching lurkers, and anyone who has played with me before knows the statistic i cite so frequently: 86% of the time the first person to start suggesting lynching lurkers is mafia. | ||
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On December 31 2014 15:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote: What's up nerds. Let's talk policy - unlike a lot of people I think it's plenty useful on Day 1. I believe strongly in Lynch All Liars. On December 31 2014 15:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I dont usually support policy lynches but anyone caught in a lie deserves intense scrutiny and questioning imo I mean it's only 5 or so posts after his big deal about policy lynching and he is already softening and backing down on it. Also I understand that his initial post on policy is pretty specific to claims and people lying about claims; but some of his later posts indicate to me that he wants to lynch people shitting up the thread and lying in general as an extension of his initial post. I am going to try to stop tunneling so hard for now though, I generally dislike people who really push policy; so I might have some bias. | ||
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On December 31 2014 16:55 geript wrote: I'm pretty sure that I've been the first person to discuss lurker lynches in almost all of my games (a large majority of which are town). 86% of your statistic is bullshit. wanna see my spreadsheet of my games played where i keep statistics? | ||
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On December 31 2014 17:06 TheChyz wrote: Hello all. Currently I don't like the direction that dr.H and ritoky are going. Basically I just see it as dr.H doing something not alignment indicative (someone always talks about policy lynches :/ ) and now ritoky is just trying to either prove that dr.H is scum or (my most probably guess) is he just wants to get an early acknowledgement of dominance by trying to force dr.H into admitting he did not follow his own policy (which most people don't follow anyway). I don't see a reason why ritoky would push this so far without any agenda. @ritoky lets move onto something a bit more important than trying to prove your dick is bigger than dr.H's. If there is anything substantial you have then go ahead, but currently your just being more of a filter spammer than anything. you have demonstrated that you have read the thread and have an opinion on it, why don't you give reads on people? or do you have none? do you have a read on either of us in particular? "filter spammer" doesn't say anything about alignment. i think the content i have provided is substantive and indicates someone being at the least hypocritical and at the most scum. outside of that eden and geript are both in the leaning town pile for now. and SL is actually reading what people type, something he didn't do a whole lot of as town last game, so idk what to make of that yet. | ||
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On December 31 2014 17:16 geript wrote: Because I hate it when people who have literally been useless try to throw out things that are wildly inaccurate to try and make a point. Especially when it's something I hold sacred like statistics. As for ritoky, no clue. I can't really read him. I think he was scum in an abortion of a game. I'll check later when I meta sicklucker. we have played 3 games together, 1 was cancelled when we were both town. 1 was a cell game where we were both town. the other was the one with the holy grail where i was mafia and you were town (with mafia?). at least that is what i have in my spreadsheet. | ||
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On December 31 2014 17:27 sicklucker wrote: So ritoky im more townie then in a previous game why dont you come out and say im town rather then "I dont know what to make of it yet" what makes you more town? i don't particularly think you're being especially townie as of now. as for reading you, i read you that way because i have never been in a game with you before (that i can remember) where i was town. my read on you last game was easy: i was mafia so manufacture it as needed. this game i am not, and the only thing that stood out to me last game as a way to read you town is that you stopped reading the posts of people once you decided they were mafia. you haven't vehemently declared anyone mafia yet, so that read hasn't really come into play. | ||
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